Re: Hardware compatibility
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:31:10 +1000 Da Rock articulated: The most annoying for me was when they're running Win7 (blah!) and I was trying to burn a cd _and_ keep the kids from interrupting by playing on the keyboard. I closed the lid like I do with FBSD and it suspended! Grr! That behavior is totally configurable. You can change it to do nothing, enter hibernation, activate the screen saver, etc. You just have to RTFM. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hardware compatibility
On 02/23/12 08:33, Jerry wrote: On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:31:10 +1000 Da Rock articulated: The most annoying for me was when they're running Win7 (blah!) and I was trying to burn a cd _and_ keep the kids from interrupting by playing on the keyboard. I closed the lid like I do with FBSD and it suspended! Grr! That behavior is totally configurable. You can change it to do nothing, enter hibernation, activate the screen saver, etc. You just have to RTFM. Yes it is configurable, especially in FBSD, which is exactly my point to the OP. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hardware compatibility
On 02/23/12 11:57, Da Rock wrote: On 02/23/12 08:33, Jerry wrote: On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:31:10 +1000 Da Rock articulated: The most annoying for me was when they're running Win7 (blah!) and I was trying to burn a cd _and_ keep the kids from interrupting by playing on the keyboard. I closed the lid like I do with FBSD and it suspended! Grr! That behavior is totally configurable. You can change it to do nothing, enter hibernation, activate the screen saver, etc. You just have to RTFM. Yes it is configurable, especially in FBSD, which is exactly my point to the OP. Oh, and I might add: what manual? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hardware compatibility
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:45:05 +1000, Da Rock wrote: To the OP, check the pages Polytropon has linked here, but the chances of getting exactly that are nil to impossible. I've run about 6 or more laptops now without too much trouble. The biggest problems were wireless, but that was the bad old days... most support is there now thanks to Adrianns work. Today's problems seem to be suspend/resume/hibernate (all the variations of it's not switched on, but also not switched off entirely) and some specific sorts of wireless devices. Having a live disk is not likely to help for several reasons: 1. there aren't really the tools to see if something will actually work in a production environment (unless pc-bsd have a disc I don't know about). For instance, wifi maybe recognised but not actually work and error like crazy only once you start to use it. The main idea of using such a system is to most precisely determine the _present_ hardware to allow further investigations (e. g. web searches and mailing list questions). The OS from disc or stick can help to identify the hardware. If you're running a live file system from a USB stick, you can do things like: # dmesg # pciconf -lv # usbconfig # sysctl -a If you start the system by boot -v (verbose logging), dmesg will contain some more lines than usual. If you have a USB stick, you can easily save the output of those commands to persistent files. If you have X in the mix, you can also check the support for the display and obtain other information that might be important later on (especially GPU info): # glxinfo # xvinfo Log files worth saving are in /var/log, as well as Xorg.0.log for X-related things. If you prepare some programs, you can also do some testing, e. g. multimedia, gaming, 3D support, networking and so on. 2. The BIOS will get in your way - see recent thread regarding samsung laptop not installing. I don't think the salespeople will let you play with that either. Depends. If you're interested in buying one of the more expensive ones, they will offer you a test ride which includes that you have a look at the CMOS setup (which is something very typical for you as an IT professional). You can say: The BIOS is defective, it doesn't allow me to boot a standard OS. Let's see... for 100$ less, I would still do you a favour and buy it. :-) If you do this *and* get it to boot, you want to get a copy of pciconf -lv which will give you the best idea on whats what. You may be able to use a linux live disk (if you can get it to boot) to accomplish this better. USB sticks seem to be the best solution as they can allow you to store files (as the results of your investigation). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hardware compatibility
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 05:35:43PM +0100, Riccardo Garzelli wrote: Dear Information service I was thinking of purchasing a new laptop and I wanted to go for FreeBSD OS. Unfortunately I'm no brainer in Unix so I'd like to find a PC that can run FreeBSD 9.0 out of the box. The best way to check is to take a LiveCD to the store and ask if you can boot the laptop that you'd like from that. Could you either tell me which hardware are suitable or a link to a compatibility list? GIYF: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgp5RzsB35nOD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hardware compatibility
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:35:43 +0100, Riccardo Garzelli wrote: I was thinking of purchasing a new laptop and I wanted to go for FreeBSD OS. Unfortunately I'm no brainer in Unix so I'd like to find a PC that can run FreeBSD 9.0 out of the box. Could you either tell me which hardware are suitable or a link to a compatibility list? Check the hardware compatibility list to find out which devices are compatible to FreeBSD, also see the release notes regarding version 9.0 of the OS. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/hardware.html http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/hardware.html It's also a good idea to prepare a FreeBSD CD or DVD (or USB stick) that you can launch a FreeBSD system from (e. g. live file system with some diagnostic tools, to see if the hardware is supported). Ask if you can boot the system you're interested in buying with that test media, it shouldn't be a problem. You could also _ask_ for how the FreeBSD support is, but don't expect any useful answers from an average salesperson. :-) Does it run FreeBSD? - Yes, you can click on the Internet with it, it's very shiny and comes with a wireless cable. =^_^= -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hardware compatibility
On 02/21/12 05:35, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:35:43 +0100, Riccardo Garzelli wrote: I was thinking of purchasing a new laptop and I wanted to go for FreeBSD OS. Unfortunately I'm no brainer in Unix so I'd like to find a PC that can run FreeBSD 9.0 out of the box. Could you either tell me which hardware are suitable or a link to a compatibility list? Check the hardware compatibility list to find out which devices are compatible to FreeBSD, also see the release notes regarding version 9.0 of the OS. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/hardware.html http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/hardware.html It's also a good idea to prepare a FreeBSD CD or DVD (or USB stick) that you can launch a FreeBSD system from (e. g. live file system with some diagnostic tools, to see if the hardware is supported). Ask if you can boot the system you're interested in buying with that test media, it shouldn't be a problem. You could also _ask_ for how the FreeBSD support is, but don't expect any useful answers from an average salesperson. :-) Does it run FreeBSD? - Yes, you can click on the Internet with it, it's very shiny and comes with a wireless cable. =^_^= LOL. I like that - I ended up selling a mobile phone to someone in a major retailer while a clueless salesperson attempted to answer their questions. When the salesperson came back to me to see what I wanted, I realised he wasn't going to know the answer either... To the OP, check the pages Polytropon has linked here, but the chances of getting exactly that are nil to impossible. I've run about 6 or more laptops now without too much trouble. The biggest problems were wireless, but that was the bad old days... most support is there now thanks to Adrianns work. Find one you like and run with it. If you have any issues post here and see if people have some answers that will make it work. I hang out here a lot for starters. Having a live disk is not likely to help for several reasons: 1. there aren't really the tools to see if something will actually work in a production environment (unless pc-bsd have a disc I don't know about). For instance, wifi maybe recognised but not actually work and error like crazy only once you start to use it. 2. The BIOS will get in your way - see recent thread regarding samsung laptop not installing. I don't think the salespeople will let you play with that either. All the laptops (and possibly branded desktops) are getting the Window$ virus. If you do this *and* get it to boot, you want to get a copy of pciconf -lv which will give you the best idea on whats what. You may be able to use a linux live disk (if you can get it to boot) to accomplish this better. I did this with a touch screen years ago and wowed the salesperson - they generally have no clue about these things :) My advice: buy one and wing it... it will be alright mostly. My current laptops with FreeBSD: HP Compaq Presario CQ62 HP Compaq Presario CQ62 Asus A52N ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hardware compatibility question
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:29:44PM -0600, Darryl Hoar wrote: Greetings, I am looking at buying a used Dell PowerEdge 2650. It has (2) Xeon 2.8Ghz with 512kb cache 6 GB ECC Ram (5) 36 GB 10k SCSI hard drives Perc/3 raid controller. dual 10/100/1000 ethernet dual power supplies. will I have any problem using Freebsd on this hardware ? No. Not if the hardware is working properly. I would prefer larger and faster hard drives. jerry Going to be LAMP server. thanks, Darryl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hardware compatibility question
On Jan 3, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Darryl Hoar wrote: Greetings, I am looking at buying a used Dell PowerEdge 2650. It has (2) Xeon 2.8Ghz with 512kb cache 6 GB ECC Ram (5) 36 GB 10k SCSI hard drives Perc/3 raid controller. dual 10/100/1000 ethernet dual power supplies. will I have any problem using Freebsd on this hardware ? Going to be LAMP server. thanks, Darryl If you're putting FreeBSD on it, I don't think it qualifies as a LAMP server... - Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hardware compatibility question
Eric Crist wrote: On Jan 3, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Darryl Hoar wrote: Greetings, I am looking at buying a used Dell PowerEdge 2650. It has (2) Xeon 2.8Ghz with 512kb cache 6 GB ECC Ram (5) 36 GB 10k SCSI hard drives Perc/3 raid controller. dual 10/100/1000 ethernet dual power supplies. will I have any problem using Freebsd on this hardware ? Going to be LAMP server. thanks, Darryl If you're putting FreeBSD on it, I don't think it qualifies as a LAMP server... - Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] An FAMP Server perhaps ? :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
