Re: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade?

2012-02-22 Thread Michael Powell
Adam Vande More wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Joe Moore
> wrote:
> 
>>
>> I have 65MB of free space on "/". Is that going to be enough? I've
>> already moved tftpboot to /usr, cleaned out /root, /boot/kernel.old, and
>> /tmp.
>>
>> What else could I clean out if I need more space? I'm thinking some
>> executables in /rescue. "ls -l"  shows most of them being  4MB each but
>> that can't be right.
>>
> 
> I don't know the specific numbers of what you'll need but you can probably
> delete the *.symbol files(they aren't needed by default).  i386 also
> produces smaller files/mem imprint than most equivalent amd64 bins.
> 

I did this and  the only i386 box I have left uses 96MB on / while the amd64 
ones  hover around 105MB, give or take a few. 

I believe adding WITHOUT_PROFILE= true to /etc/src.conf prevents them from 
being built/installed in subsequent builds.

-Mike


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RE: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade?

2012-02-22 Thread Joe Moore

-Original Message-
From: Dan Nelson [mailto:dnel...@allantgroup.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:33 PM
To: Joe Moore
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade?

In the last episode (Feb 22), Joe Moore said:
> I need to upgrade a server from 7.4 stable to 8.x stable.
> 
> I running buildworld as I write this, and plan to build a GENERIC kernel.
> 
> The root disk partition is 248 MB which was probably the auto default 
> size when the server was originally built.  I remember having to do 
> some scrambling during the last update to free up enough space for a 
> new kernel and I really don't want that to happen again.
>
> I have 65MB of free space on "/". Is that going to be enough? I've 
> already moved tftpboot to /usr, cleaned out /root, /boot/kernel.old, and /tmp.

I did a 5.5 -> 8.1 upgrade (no intermediate installs!) on a system with a 256MB 
root a few years ago and didn't have any problems.  As Adam said, get rid of 
any /boot/*/*.symbol files.  With symbols, a kernel directory could be 50-70 
MB, but without, you're looking at only 5-15 MB.  My root is only 90MB used, so 
there should be quite a bit of space you should be able to free up still.  Try 
deleting web browser cache dirs or ccache trees in ~root.
 
> What else could I clean out if I need more space? I'm thinking some 
> executables in /rescue.  "ls -l" shows most of them being 4MB each but 
> that can't be right.

All the files in /rescue is hardlinked to each other, so they only consume 4MB 
total.

-- 
Dan Nelson
dnel...@allantgroup.com



I deleted /boot/kernel/*symbols and that freed up another 90+ MB.

I've got 159MB free so I'm good to go.

Thanks to all responders!

...jgm


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Re: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade?

2012-02-22 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Feb 22), Joe Moore said:
> I need to upgrade a server from 7.4 stable to 8.x stable.
> 
> I running buildworld as I write this, and plan to build a GENERIC kernel.
> 
> The root disk partition is 248 MB which was probably the auto default size
> when the server was originally built.  I remember having to do some
> scrambling during the last update to free up enough space for a new kernel
> and I really don't want that to happen again.
>
> I have 65MB of free space on "/". Is that going to be enough? I've already
> moved tftpboot to /usr, cleaned out /root, /boot/kernel.old, and /tmp.

I did a 5.5 -> 8.1 upgrade (no intermediate installs!) on a system with a
256MB root a few years ago and didn't have any problems.  As Adam said, get
rid of any /boot/*/*.symbol files.  With symbols, a kernel directory could
be 50-70 MB, but without, you're looking at only 5-15 MB.  My root is only
90MB used, so there should be quite a bit of space you should be able to
free up still.  Try deleting web browser cache dirs or ccache trees in
~root.
 
> What else could I clean out if I need more space? I'm thinking some
> executables in /rescue.  "ls -l" shows most of them being 4MB each but
> that can't be right.

All the files in /rescue is hardlinked to each other, so they only consume
4MB total.

-- 
Dan Nelson
dnel...@allantgroup.com
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Re: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade?

2012-02-22 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Joe Moore  writes:

> What else could I clean out if I need more space? I'm thinking some 
> executables in /rescue. "ls -l"  shows most of them being  4MB each but that 
> can't be right.

Since they are all links to the same executable, you won't save anything
unless you delete all of them, which would not be recommended.
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RE: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade?

2012-02-22 Thread Joe Moore


From: Adam Vande More [mailto:amvandem...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:16 PM
To: Joe Moore
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade?

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Joe Moore  
wrote:

I have 65MB of free space on "/". Is that going to be enough? I've already 
moved tftpboot to /usr, cleaned out /root, /boot/kernel.old, and /tmp.

What else could I clean out if I need more space? I'm thinking some executables 
in /rescue. "ls -l"  shows most of them being  4MB each but that can't be right.

I don't know the specific numbers of what you'll need but you can probably 
delete the *.symbol files(they aren't needed by default).  i386 also produces 
smaller files/mem imprint than most equivalent amd64 bins.

-- 
Adam Vande More


Thanks Adam.

I should have mentioned that I am running 32 bit i386.

.jgm



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Re: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade?

2012-02-22 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Joe Moore
wrote:

>
> I have 65MB of free space on "/". Is that going to be enough? I've already
> moved tftpboot to /usr, cleaned out /root, /boot/kernel.old, and /tmp.
>
> What else could I clean out if I need more space? I'm thinking some
> executables in /rescue. "ls -l"  shows most of them being  4MB each but
> that can't be right.
>

I don't know the specific numbers of what you'll need but you can probably
delete the *.symbol files(they aren't needed by default).  i386 also
produces smaller files/mem imprint than most equivalent amd64 bins.

-- 
Adam Vande More
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