Re: Installing X11 gives perl version conflict
perryh> running 8.1-RELEASE (and not 8-STABLE) [ ... ] perryh> /packages-8.1-release/ AH HA The .message file contains the solution (I hope): "packages-*-release directories are built from the ports collection shipped with the release, and are not updated thereafter. packages-*-stable and packages-*-current are updated roughly once a week." "stable" should be renamed "bleeding-edge" to warn dunderheads like me that think stable means stable rather than unstable. And maybe web browsers should automagically display the .message file. THANK YOU !!! If only debugging X11 were so easy... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Installing X11 gives perl version conflict
RW wrote: > If building isn't an option then it's better to stick to one > release trees at a time. Unfortunately, it seems that pkg_add(1) does not make that as easy as one might prefer. I discovered recently that, even though I am running 8.1-RELEASE (and not 8-STABLE), "pkg_add -r" fetches from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-release/Latest/, rather than from the frozen-at-release -- and thus self-consistent -- collection in .../All/ One way around this is to set PACKAGESITE to, for example, ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-release/All/ (making any necessary adjustments to the mirror and release names). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Installing X11 gives perl version conflict
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011, Michael Powell wrote: d...@safeport.com wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2011, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: "Dieter" == Dieter BSD writes: Dieter> Attempt to install package xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.2.tbz Dieter> gives conflict between perl-5.10.1_3 and perl-5.12.3 Dieter> even when installing into clean directory tree. Packages seem like a great idea when you get started, but they're all built with the default configs, and those don't necessarily line up. Always build from source. Always build from source. When you installed 5.12 Perl, it put a marker in /etc/make.conf such that had you built the xf86-video-fbdev from source, it would have depended on 5.12 Perl, not the 5.10 Perl baked in to the default package. Do that, and all will be well. Yes, I had to learn this the hard way a year ago, so now I pass along that knowledge. :) I had the same error. Can the Make files either have this as a warning or change the dependency to be any Perl5, or whatever the 'real' dependency is? This was not an issue before Perl was removed from the base system and Xorg was split into its 200 (or so) component parts. Read /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.perl.mk. I think mostly many of the variables contained within may be set in /etc/make.conf and can be picked up at build time by make. Particularly interesting were PERL_VERSION, PERL_PORT, and USE_PERL, for example. Reading down into the contents will point to how the variables get used. C o o l- thanks Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Installing X11 gives perl version conflict
RW> The problem as I see it is that he is installing packages that RW> aren't built from the same tree. One of the dependencies of RW> xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.2 was built when perl 5.10 was the default RW> and one after the default switched to perl 5.12. RW> If building isn't an option then it's better to stick to one RW> release trees at a time. I think you are correct. How does one stick to one release tree? As I recall the CD/DVDs have a very small subset of ports/packages. The ftp sites have the full set, but are not static. Some packages disappear, so you have no choice but to use a newer version. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Installing X11 gives perl version conflict
Dieter> Attempt to install package xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.2.tbz Dieter> gives conflict between perl-5.10.1_3 and perl-5.12.3 Dieter> even when installing into clean directory tree. Randal> Packages seem like a great idea when you get started, Randal> but they're all built with the default configs, and Randal> those don't necessarily line up. Randal> Always build from source. Always build from source. Except that I switched from ports to packages awhile back because I was having so many problems building ports, and packages was, until now, working much better. I'm not even sure if I need xf86-video-fbdev or not? I was just trying to make Xorg happy. A few lines grepped from dmesg: port 0xac00-0xacff mem 0xfa00-0xfaff,0xfdfff000-0xfdff irq 19 at device 5.0 on pci1 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x100> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0 port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 # Xorg -configure -logverbose 100 (--) PCI:*(0:1:5:0) 1002:4752:1002:8008 ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL rev 39, Mem @ 0xfa00/16777216, 0xfdfff000/4096, I/O @ 0xac00/256, BIOS @ 0x/65536 [ ... ] List of video drivers: ati radeon r128 (II) LoadModule: "ati" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so (II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 6.14.1 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 (II) LoadModule: "radeon" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so (II) Module radeon: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 6.14.1 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 (II) LoadModule: "r128" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/r128_drv.so (II) Module r128: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 6.8.1 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:05:0 No devices to configure. Configuration failed. No devices? What about sc0 ? Google found several suggestions to just try Xorg without -configure, so: # Xorg -logverbose 100 (II) Cannot locate a core pointer device. (II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device. (II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AutoAddDevices. [ ... ] (II) LoadModule: "mach64" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module mach64 (II) UnloadModule: "mach64" (EE) Failed to load module "mach64" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "vesa" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module vesa (II) UnloadModule: "vesa" (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "fbdev" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fbdev (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev" (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) No drivers available. Fatal server error: no screens found The console said: Starting dbus. Starting hald. ps says: messagebus 924 0.0 0.0 8124 1420 ?? Is 9:29PM 0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon --system ps doesn't find a hald running? I have no clue how to reconfigure HAL or disable AutoAddDevices. Can't I just tell Xorg to use sc0 kbd0 and psm0 ? The man pages don't mention how to do this. I'm also not sure which driver it should be using. The r128 man page doesn't explicitly list the RAGE XL. Xorg without -configure doesn't mention r128. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Installing X11 gives perl version conflict
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:20:46 -0400 Michael Powell wrote: > Read /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.perl.mk. I think mostly many of the variables > contained within may be set in /etc/make.conf and can be picked up at > build time by make. Particularly interesting were PERL_VERSION, > PERL_PORT, and USE_PERL, for example. Reading down into the contents > will point to how the variables get used. I don't think any of this is very relevant - except as general background . The problem as I see it is that he is installing packages that aren't built from the same tree. One of the dependencies of xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.2 was built when perl 5.10 was the default and one after the default switched to perl 5.12. If building isn't an option then it's better to stick to one release trees at a time. That still leave the problem to dealing with vulnerabilities as best you can, but there is not a simple answer. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Installing X11 gives perl version conflict
d...@safeport.com wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jun 2011, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>> "Dieter" == Dieter BSD writes: >> >> Dieter> Attempt to install package xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.2.tbz >> Dieter> gives conflict between perl-5.10.1_3 and perl-5.12.3 >> Dieter> even when installing into clean directory tree. >> >> Packages seem like a great idea when you get started, but they're all >> built with the default configs, and those don't necessarily line up. >> >> Always build from source. Always build from source. >> >> When you installed 5.12 Perl, it put a marker in /etc/make.conf such >> that had you built the xf86-video-fbdev from source, it would have >> depended on 5.12 Perl, not the 5.10 Perl baked in to the default >> package. Do that, and all will be well. >> >> Yes, I had to learn this the hard way a year ago, so now I pass along >> that knowledge. :) >> > I had the same error. Can the Make files either have this as a warning or > change the dependency to be any Perl5, or whatever the 'real' dependency > is? This was not an issue before Perl was removed from the base system and > Xorg was split into its 200 (or so) component parts. > Read /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.perl.mk. I think mostly many of the variables contained within may be set in /etc/make.conf and can be picked up at build time by make. Particularly interesting were PERL_VERSION, PERL_PORT, and USE_PERL, for example. Reading down into the contents will point to how the variables get used. -Mike [snip] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Installing X11 gives perl version conflict
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: "Dieter" == Dieter BSD writes: Dieter> Attempt to install package xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.2.tbz Dieter> gives conflict between perl-5.10.1_3 and perl-5.12.3 Dieter> even when installing into clean directory tree. Packages seem like a great idea when you get started, but they're all built with the default configs, and those don't necessarily line up. Always build from source. Always build from source. When you installed 5.12 Perl, it put a marker in /etc/make.conf such that had you built the xf86-video-fbdev from source, it would have depended on 5.12 Perl, not the 5.10 Perl baked in to the default package. Do that, and all will be well. Yes, I had to learn this the hard way a year ago, so now I pass along that knowledge. :) I had the same error. Can the Make files either have this as a warning or change the dependency to be any Perl5, or whatever the 'real' dependency is? This was not an issue before Perl was removed from the base system and Xorg was split into its 200 (or so) component parts. For me using an 80MHz processor with 512MB of memory (a perfectly good workstation BTW runs KDE-lite just fine) building is not an option. If I started June 1, I might be done in time for the fireworks :) My solution was just to start from scratch (about 2-3 hours). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Installing X11 gives perl version conflict
> "Dieter" == Dieter BSD writes: Dieter> Attempt to install package xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.2.tbz Dieter> gives conflict between perl-5.10.1_3 and perl-5.12.3 Dieter> even when installing into clean directory tree. Packages seem like a great idea when you get started, but they're all built with the default configs, and those don't necessarily line up. Always build from source. Always build from source. When you installed 5.12 Perl, it put a marker in /etc/make.conf such that had you built the xf86-video-fbdev from source, it would have depended on 5.12 Perl, not the 5.10 Perl baked in to the default package. Do that, and all will be well. Yes, I had to learn this the hard way a year ago, so now I pass along that knowledge. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
