RE: Bootable CDs (was Re: Interest in diskless booting?)
Have you been able to get any of the methods to work repeatable? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Warren Block Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 9:16 PM To: Garance A Drosihn; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Bootable CDs (was Re: Interest in diskless booting?) On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Garance A Drosihn wrote: One of the students here at RPI worked on a project for the custom cd-rom idea. It's at http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/freebsdtogo/ I've spent the weekend experimenting with the various methods of making bootable FreeBSD CDs. LiveCD died with an unlogged error just before it was ready to build an ISO. The project at http://www.bsdtoday.com/2002/March/Features646.html went farther, but booted the CD into sysinstall. freebsdtogo has worked the best so far, although there were some missing boot files that needed to be copied. After that, it actually produced a bootable CD. I'm going to work on it some more, and try to work up at least a checklist. In the meantime, here are my notes: (Note to potential users: some of this is speculation and reading between the lines. Consider it untested. Lawrence, please feel free to include this with your project if you like.) CD to /home and untar the freebsdtogo archive. It'll create a togo directory. Bundles are directory trees of changes that will be made to the target tree before the CD image is created. There's a default bundle in the /home/togo/bundles directory. The copy subdirectory contains files which will be copied over existing ones. For example, the file copy/etc/rc.conf would be copied over the sysinstall-generated rc.conf. Packages (ports-type *.tgz packages) placed in the packages subdirectory will be installed to the target tree before the CD is created. The patch directory contains patches that will be made to the original files, and the postpatch.sh script will be run afterwards. rwmounts is a list of directories that will be created as memory filesystems. You'll probably want to either modify the default bundle directly, or copy it, modify it, and give the bundle a new name. Basic procedure: Update or create bundle as described above. cd /usr/src make buildworld cd /usr/src make buildkernel qcp -pR /boot /home/togo/trees/bin make iso (add BUNDLE=mybundlename if you're not using default) The ISO file ends up in /home/togo/build/default/cdimage.iso, or /home/togo/build/mybundlename/cdimage.iso if you've used a different bundle name. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
RE: Bootable CDs (was Re: Interest in diskless booting?)
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, JoeB wrote: Have you been able to get any of the methods to work repeatable? Yes. http://www.FreeSBIE.org works. It has an active group; the mailing list just switched from Italian to English, too. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
I've been beating on freebsd diskless for awhile now and would love to see some hard docs on it. My current goal is to get an iPaq IA1 stable under FreeBSD diskless using nothing but a 32M CF card and a USB nic. I'm oh so close but still dealing with random locks under load. (BTW, booting off CF is cake as long as you use an ide to CF adapter. At that point the cf appears as a bog standard HD. Just don't swap to it unless its a microdrive.) Joshua Coombs On Monday, 9 December 2002 at 17:48:14 -0800, Lou Katz wrote: On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 12:48:35PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I was at a local installfext yesterday (http://installfest.auug.org.au/), and a number of people were interested in doing diskless booting, either for reasons of economy or reliability. I'm currently about to finish the manuscript of the fourth edition of The Complete FreeBSD, and I was wondering if there was enough interest in this topic for me to include it in the book. If *you* are interested, please let me know. I'll make a decision depending on the amount of feedback I get. Absolutely - especially how to configure a machine to boot and run from such things as compact flash. That's a hardware issue. Most BIOSes don't support it. It's certainly worth following up on, but I won't go beyond mentioning the possibility in the book. Greg -- Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
I'm running with the Linksys USB100TX, booting off a 32MB CF card, all filesystems and swap are done over nfs. The linksys works good, no errors, other than the random locks under load. (Running NetBSD 1.6 or FreeBSD 5DP2) I'll try to get 4.7 running tonight to see if that fares better Joshua Coombs - Original Message - From: J. Seth Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Joshua Coombs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 7:01 PM Subject: Re: Interest in diskless booting? I have a working install of FBSD 4.7R running on a 340MB microdrive. It's not terribly fast, but it seems stable. My only problem is that the Netgear USB NIC craps out randomly after a few days, and FreeBSD doesn't really support the Linksys USB100TX, even though it claims to. I'd be interested to see your configuration, though. Once I find a fully supported USB NIC, I think I'm going to try and mount /usr and /usr/home from another system. Seth Henry jshamletATcomcastDOTnet To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
Hi! I would definitely be interested ... especially in a CD based system ... after reading about linux running on Xbox on PS2 ... -Pranav On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I was at a local installfext yesterday (http://installfest.auug.org.au/), and a number of people were interested in doing diskless booting, either for reasons of economy or reliability. I'm currently about to finish the manuscript of the fourth edition of The Complete FreeBSD, and I was wondering if there was enough interest in this topic for me to include it in the book. If *you* are interested, please let me know. I'll make a decision depending on the amount of feedback I get. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
Garance A Drosihn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Besides, if you had a nice book with an accurate and detailed info on how to do build such systems, then you wouldn't have to waste any time searching those web sites... :-) You missed the whole point of my message: The very existance of people's well-meaning presentations of their version of accurate and detailed info on the subject causes people to waste time when the picobsd manpage suits their needs just fine. Those articles and web sites would have served me (and I suppose many others) better by simply saying: RTFM for picobsd. But rather than discouraging documentation, I guess I'll just plead for good document introductions (which cross-reference other documents and manpages, etc) which allow people to avoid reading a lot of stuff they don't need for their particular use. (Most of the stuff I referred to actually used picobsd, but wrapped a mostly-wasteful layer of author-customized use and documentation around it.) I recognize that picobsd doesn't suit everyone's needs, but probably most. IIRC, it allows any number of modifications and additions to the default configuration including installation of large systems on CDs. If Greg is considering the documentation of an entirely non-picobsd diskless scheme, I think his target audience will be much smaller than his original question's responses might imply. And I hope he too will help his readers choose whether they should read about his non-picobsd scheme or the picobsd manpage, so they don't have to learn the hard way. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Bootable CDs (was Re: Interest in diskless booting?)
One of the students here at RPI worked on a project for the custom cd-rom idea. It's at http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/freebsdtogo/ I've spent the weekend experimenting with the various methods of making bootable FreeBSD CDs. LiveCD died with an unlogged error just before it was ready to build an ISO. Hmm... I've used LiveCD to build a CD with Apache/Postgres on it.. I didn't use their scripts, but looked at the steps they were taking... worked fine for me. My mkisofs line looked like this: mkisofs -b boot/cdboot -no-emul-boot -c boot/boot.catalog -R -J -V LiveCD -o ../LiveCD.iso . Of course, I can't tell you what version of mkisofs I used since I did it awhile ago (3 months) and have since upgraded the system. Whatever was current at that time... -philip To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Bootable CDs (was Re: Interest in diskless booting?)
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Philip Hallstrom wrote: LiveCD died with an unlogged error just before it was ready to build an ISO. Hmm... I've used LiveCD to build a CD with Apache/Postgres on it.. mkisofs -b boot/cdboot -no-emul-boot -c boot/boot.catalog -R -J -V LiveCD -o ../LiveCD.iso . It died before making it to mkisofs. But now that freebsdtogo is making a little more sense, I think I'll stick with it. *And* I'll check out the PicoBSD man page, too. 8-) -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
On Monday, 9 December 2002 at 17:48:14 -0800, Lou Katz wrote: On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 12:48:35PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I was at a local installfext yesterday (http://installfest.auug.org.au/), and a number of people were interested in doing diskless booting, either for reasons of economy or reliability. I'm currently about to finish the manuscript of the fourth edition of The Complete FreeBSD, and I was wondering if there was enough interest in this topic for me to include it in the book. If *you* are interested, please let me know. I'll make a decision depending on the amount of feedback I get. Absolutely - especially how to configure a machine to boot and run from such things as compact flash. That's a hardware issue. Most BIOSes don't support it. It's certainly worth following up on, but I won't go beyond mentioning the possibility in the book. Greg -- Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
Definitely add it! - aW On Monday, 9 December 2002 at 17:48:14 -0800, Lou Katz wrote: On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 12:48:35PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I was at a local installfext yesterday (http://installfest.auug.org.au/), and a number of people were interested in doing diskless booting, either for reasons of economy or reliability. I'm currently about to finish the manuscript of the fourth edition of The Complete FreeBSD, and I was wondering if there was enough interest in this topic for me to include it in the book. If *you* are interested, please let me know. I'll make a decision depending on the amount of feedback I get. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
I was at a local installfext yesterday (http://installfest.auug.org.au/), and a number of people were interested in doing diskless booting, either for reasons of economy or reliability. I'm currently about to finish the manuscript of the fourth edition of The Complete FreeBSD, and I was wondering if there was enough interest in this topic for me to include it in the book. If *you* are interested, please let me know. I'll make a decision depending on the amount of feedback I get. This is another definite YES ! :) Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 12:48:35PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I was at a local installfext yesterday (http://installfest.auug.org.au/), and a number of people were interested in doing diskless booting, either for reasons of economy or reliability. I'm currently about to finish the manuscript of the fourth edition of The Complete FreeBSD, and I was wondering if there was enough interest in this topic for me to include it in the book. If *you* are interested, please let me know. I'll make a decision depending on the amount of feedback I get. Count me in for 'yes, I'd be interested'. -- Andreas ant Ntaflos | A cynic is a man who knows the price of [EMAIL PROTECTED] | everything, and the value of nothing. Vienna, AUSTRIA | Oscar Wilde To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
At 12:54 PM -0800 12/8/02, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: I mostly-wasted a bunch of time investigating web sites and articles which had schemes for diskless booting, and then discovered that the picobsd manpage told me everything I needed to know (to set up a non-harddisk filtering bridge booting off a floppy) in a staightforward, non-confusing manner. PicoBSD is great if you want to do what PicoBSD is geared for, but many people can think of their own custom systems that they would like to have burned on a CD-ROM. Not pico small, but still much less than the full-blown freebsd, and does not require a working hard disk to run. For those people, PicoBSD is *too* successful at being small. Besides, if you had a nice book with an accurate and detailed info on how to do build such systems, then you wouldn't have to waste any time searching those web sites... :-) Another example of where this information is useful is for hardware like the small, diskless boxes at http://www.soekris.com/. One of the CS grad students set up freebsd on a box like that, and gave a presentation of it at a local Unix users group, and everyone was very interested in what he had done. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Systems Programmer or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rensselaer Polytechnic Instituteor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
On Sunday, 8 December 2002 at 17:36:51 -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote: At 12:54 PM -0800 12/8/02, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: I mostly-wasted a bunch of time investigating web sites and articles which had schemes for diskless booting, and then discovered that the picobsd manpage told me everything I needed to know (to set up a non-harddisk filtering bridge booting off a floppy) in a staightforward, non-confusing manner. PicoBSD is great if you want to do what PicoBSD is geared for, but many people can think of their own custom systems that they would like to have burned on a CD-ROM. Not pico small, but still much less than the full-blown freebsd, and does not require a working hard disk to run. For those people, PicoBSD is *too* successful at being small. Agreed. Given the increase in size of the kernel in recent years, it's difficult to get a kernel on a floppy, let alone other files. CDs are hardly any more expensive, and you can put a complete system on them. Besides, if you had a nice book with an accurate and detailed info on how to do build such systems, then you wouldn't have to waste any time searching those web sites... :-) Another example of where this information is useful is for hardware like the small, diskless boxes at http://www.soekris.com/. One of the CS grad students set up freebsd on a box like that, and gave a presentation of it at a local Unix users group, and everyone was very interested in what he had done. This is one of the things that I was thinking of, from a software side, but my primary interest was net booting with NFS-mounted file systems. I'll think about the CD system as well, but it seems that this should be something that the FreeBSD project offers as an additional CD. It could replace the fixit floppy, which has become almost useless. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
RE: Interest in diskless booting?
I'd be interested as well. In addition a section on building a minimal FreeBSD (e.g. for a Soekris box), that one books diskless (in lieu of GENERIC) would be even better. I don't think any other title covers this to date. MikeC -Original Message- From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 9:19 PM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Interest in diskless booting? I was at a local installfext yesterday (http://installfest.auug.org.au/), and a number of people were interested in doing diskless booting, either for reasons of economy or reliability. I'm currently about to finish the manuscript of the fourth edition of The Complete FreeBSD, and I was wondering if there was enough interest in this topic for me to include it in the book. If *you* are interested, please let me know. I'll make a decision depending on the amount of feedback I get. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Bootable CDs (was Re: Interest in diskless booting?)
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Garance A Drosihn wrote: One of the students here at RPI worked on a project for the custom cd-rom idea. It's at http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/freebsdtogo/ I've spent the weekend experimenting with the various methods of making bootable FreeBSD CDs. LiveCD died with an unlogged error just before it was ready to build an ISO. The project at http://www.bsdtoday.com/2002/March/Features646.html went farther, but booted the CD into sysinstall. freebsdtogo has worked the best so far, although there were some missing boot files that needed to be copied. After that, it actually produced a bootable CD. I'm going to work on it some more, and try to work up at least a checklist. In the meantime, here are my notes: (Note to potential users: some of this is speculation and reading between the lines. Consider it untested. Lawrence, please feel free to include this with your project if you like.) CD to /home and untar the freebsdtogo archive. It'll create a togo directory. Bundles are directory trees of changes that will be made to the target tree before the CD image is created. There's a default bundle in the /home/togo/bundles directory. The copy subdirectory contains files which will be copied over existing ones. For example, the file copy/etc/rc.conf would be copied over the sysinstall-generated rc.conf. Packages (ports-type *.tgz packages) placed in the packages subdirectory will be installed to the target tree before the CD is created. The patch directory contains patches that will be made to the original files, and the postpatch.sh script will be run afterwards. rwmounts is a list of directories that will be created as memory filesystems. You'll probably want to either modify the default bundle directly, or copy it, modify it, and give the bundle a new name. Basic procedure: Update or create bundle as described above. cd /usr/src make buildworld cd /usr/src make buildkernel qcp -pR /boot /home/togo/trees/bin make iso (add BUNDLE=mybundlename if you're not using default) The ISO file ends up in /home/togo/build/default/cdimage.iso, or /home/togo/build/mybundlename/cdimage.iso if you've used a different bundle name. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
RE: Interest in diskless booting?
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Cambria, Mike wrote: I'd be interested as well. Likewise. In addition a section on building a minimal FreeBSD (e.g. for a Soekris box), that one books diskless (in lieu of GENERIC) would be even better. I don't think any other title covers this to date. You may find http://neon1.net/misc/minibsd.html interesting. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 12:48:35PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I was at a local installfext yesterday (http://installfest.auug.org.au/), and a number of people were interested in doing diskless booting, either for reasons of economy or reliability. I'm currently about to finish the manuscript of the fourth edition of The Complete FreeBSD, and I was wondering if there was enough interest in this topic for me to include it in the book. If *you* are interested, please let me know. I'll make a decision depending on the amount of feedback I get. I would be interested in it. -- Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I was at a local installfext yesterday (http://installfest.auug.org.au/), and a number of people were interested in doing diskless booting, either for reasons of economy or reliability. I'm currently about to finish the manuscript of the fourth edition of The Complete FreeBSD, and I was wondering if there was enough interest in this topic for me to include it in the book. If *you* are interested, please let me know. I'll make a decision depending on the amount of feedback I get. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message Definitely interested. -Joel To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 12:48:35PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I was at a local installfext yesterday (http://installfest.auug.org.au/), and a number of people were interested in doing diskless booting, either for reasons of economy or reliability. I'm currently about to finish the manuscript of the fourth edition of The Complete FreeBSD, and I was wondering if there was enough interest in this topic for me to include it in the book. If *you* are interested, please let me know. I'll make a decision depending on the amount of feedback I get. It's pretty useful..on some hardware (alpha, sparc, i386 with pxe support) you can even bootstrap a fresh system that way. It is a bit tricky to get working if you don't know what you're doing, so documentation sounds useful. Kris msg11390/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
I was at a local installfext yesterday (http://installfest.auug.org.au/), and a number of people were interested in doing diskless booting, either for reasons of economy or reliability. I'm currently about to finish the manuscript of the fourth edition of The Complete FreeBSD, and I was wondering if there was enough interest in this topic for me to include it in the book. If *you* are interested, please let me know. I'll make a decision depending on the amount of feedback I get. ** diskless booting ** how to prepare a disk to generate a bootable .iso ** up-to-date pico/small how-to for writing a bootable image to a CF drive. :)) Len To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
On Saturday, 7 December 2002 at 20:47:29 -0600, Len Conrad wrote: I was at a local installfext yesterday (http://installfest.auug.org.au/), and a number of people were interested in doing diskless booting, either for reasons of economy or reliability. I'm currently about to finish the manuscript of the fourth edition of The Complete FreeBSD, and I was wondering if there was enough interest in this topic for me to include it in the book. If *you* are interested, please let me know. I'll make a decision depending on the amount of feedback I get. ** diskless booting OK. You're not the only one. There's obviously a lot of interest out there. ** how to prepare a disk to generate a bootable .iso Already there :-) ** up-to-date pico/small how-to for writing a bootable image to a CF drive. I'm not so sure about this one, though I've heard from others on this subject as well. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 12:48:35PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I was at a local installfext yesterday (http://installfest.auug.org.au/), and a number of people were interested in doing diskless booting, either for reasons of economy or reliability. I'm currently about to finish the manuscript of the fourth edition of The Complete FreeBSD, and I was wondering if there Before I answer your question I'd like to thank you for your work on the first 3 editions. It helped me immeasurably in my efforts to learn FreeBSD. The book and it's well-worn pages sit prominently in my office. I've been wondering and hoping there would be an update someday. By now I probably don't need it but will buy as soon as it's out. Hopefully my local book store will carry it and can demonstrate my support for this find OS and organization. was enough interest in this topic for me to include it in the book. If *you* are interested, please let me know. I'll make a decision depending on the amount of feedback I get. definately! -- Regards, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I was at a local installfext yesterday (http://installfest.auug.org.au/), and a number of people were interested in doing diskless booting, either for reasons of economy or reliability. I'm currently about to finish the manuscript of the fourth edition of The Complete FreeBSD, and I was wondering if there was enough interest in this topic for me to include it in the book. If *you* are interested, please let me know. I'll make a decision depending on the amount of feedback I get. put me down as a yes, please. -- Paul Beard: seeking UNIX/internet engineering work in Seattle area. Details available below: http://paulbeard.no-ip.org/paulbeard.html Never worry about theory as long as the machinery does what it's supposed to do. -- R. A. Heinlein To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
At 12:48 PM +1030 12/8/02, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I was at a local installfext yesterday (http://installfest.auug.org.au/), and a number of people were interested in doing diskless booting, either for reasons of economy or reliability. I'm currently about to finish the manuscript of the fourth edition of The Complete FreeBSD, and I was wondering if there was enough interest in this topic for me to include it in the book. If *you* are interested, please let me know. I'll make a decision depending on the amount of feedback I get. There's at least two cases, right? diskless booting off something like a custom CD-ROM, and diskless booting over the network? One of the students here at RPI worked on a project for the custom cd-rom idea. It's at http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/freebsdtogo/ He's used this to make CD's which boot up a laptop, and run without touching anything on the hard disk. I know he has it working for the 4.x-branch, and I believe he also updated it for the 5.0-current branch. This is very useful for having students use there laptops to take tests, while having the instructor have complete control over what they are running. (and not having to worry about the state of things on the student's hard disk) -- Garance Alistair Drosehn= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Systems Programmer or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rensselaer Polytechnic Instituteor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
At 12:28 AM -0500 12/8/02, Garance A Drosihn wrote: At 12:48 PM +1030 12/8/02, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: If *you* are interested, please let me know. I'll make a decision depending on the amount of feedback I get. There's at least two cases, right? diskless booting off something like a custom CD-ROM, and diskless booting over the network? One of the students here at RPI worked on a project for the custom cd-rom idea. It's at http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/freebsdtogo/ Uh, the point of me mentioning this is that the project is still in testing stage (*), he has made no effort to promote the project, and yet he has gotten a fair amount of interest in it. So, I expect many people would be interested in the issues involved with making such a setup. (* - it works fine for his specific needs, but it could probably use some more polish so others could easily use it) -- Garance Alistair Drosehn= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Systems Programmer or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rensselaer Polytechnic Instituteor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
At Sun, 8 Dec 2002 it looks like Greg 'groggy' Lehey composed: If *you* are interested, please let me know. I'll make a decision depending on the amount of feedback I get. Yes, I'd be very interested :) -- |--Word-Wrap-At-72-Please--| Bill Schoolcraft PO Box 210076 -o) San Francisco CA 94121 /\ UNIX, A Way Of Life._\_v To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 12:48:35PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I was at a local installfext yesterday (http://installfest.auug.org.au/), and a number of people were interested in doing diskless booting, either for reasons of economy or reliability. I'm currently about to finish the manuscript of the fourth edition of The Complete FreeBSD, and I was wondering if there was enough interest in this topic for me to include it in the book. If *you* are interested, please let me know. I'll make a decision depending on the amount of feedback I get. I vote for it, a gap that needs filling. I would vote for cpuless booting as well, but I guess it will not happen in my lifetime :(. -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Interest in diskless booting?
On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 12:28:02AM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote: At 12:48 PM +1030 12/8/02, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I was at a local installfext yesterday (http://installfest.auug.org.au/), and a number of people were interested in doing diskless booting, either for reasons of economy or reliability. I'm currently about to finish the manuscript of the fourth edition of The Complete FreeBSD, and I was wondering if there was enough interest in this topic for me to include it in the book. If *you* are interested, please let me know. I'll make a decision depending on the amount of feedback I get. There's at least two cases, right? diskless booting off something like a custom CD-ROM, and diskless booting over the network? One of the students here at RPI worked on a project for the custom cd-rom idea. It's at http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/freebsdtogo/ He's used this to make CD's which boot up a laptop, and run without touching anything on the hard disk. I know he has it working for the 4.x-branch, and I believe he also updated it for the 5.0-current branch. This is very useful for having students use there laptops to take tests, while having the instructor have complete control over what they are running. (and not having to worry about the state of things on the student's hard disk) (Ah but soon he will have to worry about all that porno in their magnetic memory ) -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
