RE: Mail Server Advice

2002-12-02 Thread Joshua Lokken
I'm sure the difficulty of setup has something to do with it, at least for
the newer folks.

Joshua

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 when the mta conf files became human readable .

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  Uhh
 
  When did Sendmail become a third-string MTA?
 
 
 
  -John Von Essen
 
  On Friday, November 29, 2002, at 12:17 AM, Ber Ez wrote:
 
   now i'm facing a new battle ,postfix vs qmail
 
 
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Re: Mail Server Advice

2002-12-02 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2002-12-02 11:17, Joshua Lokken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm sure the difficulty of setup has something to do with it, at
 least for the newer folks.

It's not *that* hard if one reads the example files in /etc/mail, and
the relevant Handbook section.  If it is, then it's a bug of the
documentation and I'd be glad to see PRs submitted with descriptions
of the problems that users have found.

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Re: Mail Server Advice

2002-11-30 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 09:15:35AM -0500, Dave [Hawk-Systems] wrote:
 postfix on freebsd is apparently more efficient than qmail, though.
 
 no comment on that (lest we revive deep rooted animosity between the two
 camps)...
 
Hey, no animosity here. I use Postfix, but having never used qmail I
don't have any feelings about it at all. Postfix works for me (and
without really starting a flame war ... hee hee ... I would rather use a
postage stamp for my mail than sendmail .. joke guys, joke !).

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Re: Mail Server Advice

2002-11-30 Thread Doug Reynolds
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 12:09:28 +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:

On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 09:15:35AM -0500, Dave [Hawk-Systems] wrote:
 postfix on freebsd is apparently more efficient than qmail, though.
 
 no comment on that (lest we revive deep rooted animosity between the two
 camps)...
 
Hey, no animosity here. I use Postfix, but having never used qmail I
don't have any feelings about it at all. Postfix works for me (and
without really starting a flame war ... hee hee ... I would rather use a
postage stamp for my mail than sendmail .. joke guys, joke !).

I've used both, I now use postfix..  I can't say which is more
configurable, but postfix has almost everything built in, where as
qmail needs a lot of addon stuff to do relays and such

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[OT] Re: Mail Server Advice

2002-11-30 Thread joe

 I've used both, I now use postfix..  I can't say which is more
 configurable, but postfix has almost everything built in, where as
 qmail needs a lot of addon stuff to do relays and such

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But the qmail list is waay more fun/amusing/dangerous to 
participate in :)

Please check one of my favourite threads which can be found at  
http://www.ornl.gov/cts/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2002/02/msg00649.html

If you choose postfix despite this evidence you can always keep on top 
of the best of the worst at 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/worst_of_qmail/


Joe Sotham

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by keeping them both and keeping them furious.
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Re: Mail Server Advice

2002-11-30 Thread Brian Jackson

On Friday, November 29, 2002, at 12:17  AM, Ber Ez wrote:


Hi to all,
I need to build a mail server , I have won the battle of weather to 
use FreeBSD or Linux or M$ .
now i'm facing a new battle ,postfix vs qmail.
I need your advice .
which of the two would be faster on freebsd ?
any optimaization tips ?
the system will handle a few mailing lists of 30,000+ subscribers ( 
news letters ,not a discussion list ) and over 20,000 users.
I am thinking of load balancing this between three servers and am 
looking for info on that as well.
thanks
Ber .
--

qmail (http://www.qmail.org) with ezmlm (http://www.ezmlm.org) and the 
ezmlm-idx patch  (also on http://www.ezmlm.org) make an excellent, easy 
to administer, and secure mailing list solution. (note that ezmlm-idx 
will also give you the ability to create html archives)

Inter7 has a brilliant virtual hosting and web mail platform  for qmail 
as well (http://www.inter7.com).

With all that said, I have no experience with postfix - but I have had 
much success with qmail and its addons.

Brian
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Re: Mail Server Advice

2002-11-29 Thread Moti Levy
when the mta conf files became human readable .

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 Uhh
 
 When did Sendmail become a third-string MTA?
 
 
 
 -John Von Essen
 
 On Friday, November 29, 2002, at 12:17 AM, Ber Ez wrote:
 
  now i'm facing a new battle ,postfix vs qmail
 
 
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Re: Mail Server Advice

2002-11-29 Thread Peter Hoskin
postfix on freebsd is apparently more efficient than qmail, though.

Regards,
Peter Hoskin

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 qmail  + vpopmail is a good idea if you want some virtual host too

  Hi to all,
  I need to build a mail server , I have won the battle of weather to use
  FreeBSD or Linux or M$ . now i'm facing a new battle ,postfix vs qmail.
  I need your advice .
  which of the two would be faster on freebsd ?
  any optimaization tips ?
  the system will handle a few mailing lists of 30,000+ subscribers ( news
  letters ,not a discussion list ) and over 20,000 users. I am thinking of
  load balancing this between three servers and am looking for info on
  that as well. thanks
  Ber .
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RE: Mail Server Advice

2002-11-29 Thread Dave [Hawk-Systems]
postfix on freebsd is apparently more efficient than qmail, though.

no comment on that (lest we revive deep rooted animosity between the two
camps)...

If you are looking at the qmail solution, check out the following.  Provides a
complete package from a multiple domain mail solution...  great starting point.
Then you can tweak once you are familiar with all the ports/componants.

http://matt.simerson.net/computing/mail/toaster/

Cheers,

Dave



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Re: Mail Server Advice

2002-11-29 Thread Odhiambo Washington
* Ber Ez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20021129 08:16]: wrote:
 Hi to all,
 I need to build a mail server , I have won the battle of weather to use FreeBSD or 
Linux or M$ .
 now i'm facing a new battle ,postfix vs qmail.
 I need your advice .
 which of the two would be faster on freebsd ?
 any optimaization tips ?
 the system will handle a few mailing lists of 30,000+ subscribers ( news letters 
,not a discussion list )
 and over 20,000 users.
 I am thinking of load balancing this between three servers and am looking for info 
on that as well.
 thanks 

Exim (www.exim.org) + Mailman (www.list.org)





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Re: Mail Server Advice

2002-11-28 Thread nbari
qmail  + vpopmail is a good idea if you want some virtual host too

 Hi to all,
 I need to build a mail server , I have won the battle of weather to use
 FreeBSD or Linux or M$ . now i'm facing a new battle ,postfix vs qmail.
 I need your advice .
 which of the two would be faster on freebsd ?
 any optimaization tips ?
 the system will handle a few mailing lists of 30,000+ subscribers ( news
 letters ,not a discussion list ) and over 20,000 users. I am thinking of
 load balancing this between three servers and am looking for info on
 that as well. thanks
 Ber .
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Re: Mail Server Advice

2002-11-28 Thread John Von Essen
Uhh

When did Sendmail become a third-string MTA?



-John Von Essen

On Friday, November 29, 2002, at 12:17 AM, Ber Ez wrote:


now i'm facing a new battle ,postfix vs qmail



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