Re: New User to FreeBSD
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 12:17 AM, alwin doss alwindos...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Let me be honest at the outset, I have never used an operating system other than linux with enthusiasm. But something about Linux always troubled me It's licensing, such complex family of distributions which are so different from each other. Which is when I came across FreeBSD. I fell in love with it, but yes I have never used it yet, I have tried many times to install it, but the installation process is really hard, I must say. I really want to install it on my laptop and all my systems. Added to the above interests of mine, I am a C++ and java developer. I want to use this talent that God's has blessed me with in this community. I want to begin with FreeBSD's very own GUI. Not depending on anyone (Gnome, KDE or) I want it to be soo good that a commoner shoule be able to work with it with ease and feel safe and secure. So if someone could guide me about how to get started with contributing to FreeBSD it would be great. Please do reach out to me for more details if you need that is!!! Send me links that will get me started with FreeBSD I am all excited for this new journey to begin. -- Alwin Doss God's Beloved ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Take a look at PC-BSD http://www.pcbsd.org/ Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: New User to FreeBSD
On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 12:47:26PM +0530, alwin doss wrote: Which is when I came across FreeBSD. I fell in love with it, but yes I have never used it yet, I have tried many times to install it, but the installation process is really hard, I must say. I really want to install it on my laptop and all my systems. Have you tried PC-BSD? It is effectively a 'distro' of FreeBSD, but aimed very much at desktop users. The installation process has been extensively modified, and should be much more accessible to new users. Also, laptops can be difficult to install FreeBSD on -- they tend to have non-standard versions of many of the typical components. Try looking up your hardware here: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ to see what tricks and tweaks may be needed. If you'ld like to contribute towards FreeBSD, you will be more that welcome. The easiest and simplest way to start is to become an active participant on the various mailing lists or the FreeBSD forums. Then, as you become familiar with the system, find and characterise any bugs you run into, and submit well-formed problem reports, for any of the ports, docs or the base system. Well-formed in the sense that just saying foo is broken doesn't really help: it is much better to show output from foo illustrating the brokenness and explain what you'ld expect to see specifically. Even better is if you can include patches to fix the problem. Don't be disenheartened if your patches get quite rigourously critiqued -- that's a good sign: it usually means that committers are taking your ideas seriously but want you to improve the implementation before it can be committed. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW pgp8mLSTAJ00v.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: New User to FreeBSD
[ Waitman Gobble wrote on Sun 7.Oct'12 at 0:38:30 -0700 ] On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 12:17 AM, alwin doss alwindos...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Let me be honest at the outset, I have never used an operating system other than linux with enthusiasm. But something about Linux always troubled me It's licensing, such complex family of distributions which are so different from each other. Which is when I came across FreeBSD. I fell in love with it, but yes I have never used it yet, I have tried many times to install it, but the installation process is really hard, I must say. I really want to install it on my laptop and all my systems. Added to the above interests of mine, I am a C++ and java developer. I want to use this talent that God's has blessed me with in this community. I want to begin with FreeBSD's very own GUI. Not depending on anyone (Gnome, KDE or) I want it to be soo good that a commoner shoule be able to work with it with ease and feel safe and secure. So if someone could guide me about how to get started with contributing to FreeBSD it would be great. Please do reach out to me for more details if you need that is!!! Send me links that will get me started with FreeBSD I am all excited for this new journey to begin. -- Alwin Doss God's Beloved Take a look at PC-BSD http://www.pcbsd.org/ Waitman Gobble Yes i think you might benefit initially from installing PC-BSD. It IS FreeBSD, but the creators have put a great deal of effort and hard work into making it easier to install and to provide an X environment that is already set up and configured for you to use. If you were to install FreeBSD there are a lot of configuration changes to be made and software to install to get the set-up I believe you're looking for. PC-BSD will take away that part of it for you and most likely make your experience of FreeBSD a lot less headache free. It's default desktop is KDE 4 i believe. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: New User to FreeBSD
Let me be honest at the outset, I have never used an operating system other than linux with enthusiasm. But something about Linux always troubled me It's licensing, such complex family of distributions which are so different from each other. Which is when I came across FreeBSD. I fell in love with it, but yes I have never used it yet, I have tried many times to install it, but the installation process is really hard, I must say. I really want to install it on my laptop and all my systems. Added to the above interests of mine, I am a C++ and java developer. I want to use this talent that God's has blessed me with in this community. I want to begin with FreeBSD's very own GUI. Not depending on anyone (Gnome, KDE or) I want it to be soo good that a commoner shoule be able to work with it with ease and feel safe and secure. So if someone could guide me about how to get started with contributing to FreeBSD it would be great. Please do reach out to me for more details if you need that is!!! Send me links that will get me started with FreeBSD I am all excited for this new journey to begin. Alwin Doss God's Beloved I don't think there is any such thing as FreeBSD's very own GUI. FreeBSD's GUI is X Window System, but this is Unix's main GUI, which is also used by other (quasi-)Unixes including Linux. You can look through the FreeBSD Handbook online, even download it. You can find useful links from www.freebsd.org . Does anybody know about live USBs/CDs/DVDs for FreeBSD? Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: New User to FreeBSD
On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:47:26 +0530, alwin doss wrote: But something about Linux always troubled me It's licensing, such complex family of distributions which are so different from each other. A valid point. With UNIX basic knowledge, you can master nearly any outdated commercial UNIX, BSD and Linux, even though it is sometimes complicated to find the simple parts (i. e. the UNIX parts) in Linux. :-) Which is when I came across FreeBSD. I fell in love with it, but yes I have never used it yet, I have tried many times to install it, but the installation process is really hard, I must say. I cannot conform that. Do you have a second system that you can use to refer to the documentation that exactly describes, with text and pictures, how to perform the installation process? Note that FreeBSD, in opposite to many other systems, comes with excellent documentation both for Internet and offline use. Check out The FreeBSD Handbook's installation section: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall.html and the FAQ regarding this topic: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/faq/install.html You'll see that the installation is quite simple: You just have to follow the instructions shown on the screen. I really want to install it on my laptop and all my systems. It's a bit complicated to get _all_ features running on _all_ kinds of laptops has hardware manufacturers do not care much about standards and specifications. Still I hear from many people successfully running FreeBSD on their super-duper-new laptops, and I run it on my old and shady laptops. :-) Added to the above interests of mine, I am a C++ and java developer. I want to use this talent that God's has blessed me with in this community. Both languages can be used on FreeBSD. C++ is supported out of the box. Java requires you to install additional software due to licensing terms and lawyer blahblah. I want to begin with FreeBSD's very own GUI. FreeBSD does not have a very own GUI. In fact, it has many GUIs, and it doesn't have a GUI per se. Note that it is a multi-purpose system, that's why it doesn't come with a graphical installer so you can install it on a server (that doesn't even have a monitor). After installation, you can add as many GUIs as you like (for example, you can have both KDE and Gnome on your system, plus olvwm and even WindowMaker). The choice is _yours_. There is nothing directly tied to the system. However, PC-BSD comes with a preinstalled and preconfigured (!) KDE environment. VirtualBSD comes with Xfce, if I remember correctly. You can check out those projects: PC-BSD is said to be easier to adopt by Linux and even Windows users as it comes with a graphical installer, preconfigured environments, preinstalled software, and caters the out of the box community a lot. And VirtualBSD can be used from within a VM, it's a nice try it out system. http://www.pcbsd.org/ http://www.virtualbsd.info/ You can find screenshots there too. :-) Not depending on anyone (Gnome, KDE or) I want it to be soo good that a commoner shoule be able to work with it with ease and feel safe and secure. That's one of the primary advantages of FreeBSD: The system will not do anything until _YOU_ tell it to. Know what you do. Know where to find information (Handbook, FAQ, man command, mailing lists). So if someone could guide me about how to get started with contributing to FreeBSD it would be great. Find something that you consider interesting and worth contributing to. Refer to this page for more information: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/contributing/index.html Send me links that will get me started with FreeBSD I am all excited for this new journey to begin. If you enounter problems during installation, feel free to contact the list. Describe your problem as exact as possible, use the available troubleshooting resources first, like, do your homework. :-) http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo http://www.freebsd.org/support.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org