Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.

2002-11-21 Thread Stephen Hovey

I apologize to the list - I thought I can cleared the cc: - didnt realise
it went out on the list.  Its what I get for gettin pissed off too late at
nite.

On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Gary D Kline wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 09:07:57PM -0500, Stephen Hovey wrote:
  Oh bite me already
  
   man, that was worth a laugh!  the endless reams of this spam
   make me think of pt barnum.
 
 
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Reacting to spam targetted to freebsd.org [was: Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.]

2002-11-21 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2002-11-21 08:44, Stephen Hovey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Gary D Kline wrote:
  On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 09:07:57PM -0500, Stephen Hovey wrote:
   Oh bite me already
 
  man, that was worth a laugh!  the endless reams of this spam
  make me think of pt barnum.

 I apologize to the list - I thought I can cleared the cc: - didnt
 realise it went out on the list.  Its what I get for gettin pissed
 off too late at nite.

The best thing to do is take a look at the spam headers and post a
notice to [EMAIL PROTECTED] since the originator of the message is easy
to find by looking at the following:

: Received: from mail.FreeBSD.org (node-c-173f.a2000.nl [62.194.23.63])
:   by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4845643E9E
:   for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 04:55:36 -0800 (PST)
:   (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])

That's what I did.  More than once.  Signing my messages with PGP too.

This very spammer has hit the lists more than once, and every time I
mailed {abuse|postmaster} at a2000.nl.  If they receive a few hundred
messages for each spam message they let through they will certainly
start acting fast :-)

So instead of replying to the lists, let abuse@ know.

Many times!


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Re: Reacting to spam targetted to freebsd.org [was: Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.]

2002-11-21 Thread Yann Golanski
Quoth Giorgos Keramidas on Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 15:58:03 +0200
 This very spammer has hit the lists more than once, and every time I
 mailed {abuse|postmaster} at a2000.nl.  If they receive a few hundred
 messages for each spam message they let through they will certainly
 start acting fast :-)

Would it be possible for the owners of the lsit to install something
like SpamAssassin so that those messages actually don't get to us? 

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Re: Reacting to spam targetted to freebsd.org [was: Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.]

2002-11-21 Thread Adam Weinberger
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 (11.21.2002 @ 0600 PST): Yann Golanski said, in 1.3K: 
 Would it be possible for the owners of the lsit to install something
 like SpamAssassin so that those messages actually don't get to us? 
 end of Re: Reacting to spam targetted to freebsd.org [was: Re: PLS GET BACK TO 
ME.] from Yann Golanski 

FreeBSD can't use any restrictive level of filtering. SpamAssassin on my
server nukes some peoples' emails to this list at times.

The answer to the question of why doesn't FreeBSD... is why don't
you?

# Adam


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Re: Reacting to spam targetted to freebsd.org [was: Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.]

2002-11-21 Thread Kirk Strauser

At 2002-11-21T14:00:56Z, Yann Golanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Would it be possible for the owners of the lsit to install something
 like SpamAssassin so that those messages actually don't get to us? 

Erm, I'm roughly 99.999% against that idea.  What if someone's writing to
ask how to secure their FreeBSD box that's currently being used as a spam
relay (and is on many blackhole lists)?

For what it's worth, I run SpamAssassin locally, and use it to *mark*
possible spams, but never drop them.  Then I configured my client to filter
based on the `X-Spam-Status' header into a spam folder that I periodically
check.  Once a month or so, I find a piece of mail that *should* have passed
but was marked, so I have to adjust my rules and/or whitelist accordingly.
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How do I block spam locally? (WAS: Re: Reacting to spam targettedto freebsd.org [was: Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.])

2002-11-21 Thread Matt Smith
I agree, but how do I run spam filtering locally?  
As an average desktop user, I simply use a client to POP mail from a
server -- are there client plugins that filter for spam?  I currently
use Evolution, but am willing to change if there a spam filter plugins
for other clients.

As a slightly-more-than-average desktop user, I just figured out
fetchmail to fetch a POP3 account to my local sendmail (base system,
default install, set for local deliver only).  Is SpamAssassin the
best way to go?  Is it a plugin for Sendmail?  If I'm going to start
messin' with my local MTA, should I try something besides Sendmail?  The
config options of Sendmail are somewhat daunting -- it seems like an
SMTP handler should be simpler.

Thoughts?

Thanks all,

-Matt
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 09:47, Kirk Strauser wrote:
 At 2002-11-21T14:00:56Z, Yann Golanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Would it be possible for the owners of the lsit to install something
  like SpamAssassin so that those messages actually don't get to us? 
 
 Erm, I'm roughly 99.999% against that idea.  What if someone's writing to
 ask how to secure their FreeBSD box that's currently being used as a spam
 relay (and is on many blackhole lists)?
 
 For what it's worth, I run SpamAssassin locally, and use it to *mark*
 possible spams, but never drop them.  Then I configured my client to filter
 based on the `X-Spam-Status' header into a spam folder that I periodically
 check.  Once a month or so, I find a piece of mail that *should* have passed
 but was marked, so I have to adjust my rules and/or whitelist accordingly.
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Re: How do I block spam locally? (WAS: Re: Reacting to spam targetted to freebsd.org [was: Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.])

2002-11-21 Thread Roman Neuhauser
don't top-post please.

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-11-21 10:00:43 -0500:
 I agree, but how do I run spam filtering locally?  
 As an average desktop user, I simply use a client to POP mail from a
 server -- are there client plugins that filter for spam?  I currently
 use Evolution, but am willing to change if there a spam filter plugins
 for other clients.

Unless Evolution can't grok usual mail formats (mbox, Maildir),
you'll want to do something like:

POP3 client - spam filter - disk - MUA

(note that you use Evolution to do both sides of the graph)

you don't need to change your MUA.
 
 As a slightly-more-than-average desktop user, I just figured out
 fetchmail to fetch a POP3 account to my local sendmail (base system,
 default install, set for local deliver only).  Is SpamAssassin the
 best way to go?  Is it a plugin for Sendmail?  If I'm going to start
 messin' with my local MTA, should I try something besides Sendmail?  The
 config options of Sendmail are somewhat daunting -- it seems like an
 SMTP handler should be simpler.

you don't need fetchmail to reinject the messages to sendmail just
to get them stored on the disk.

sorry for being this terse, i'm short on time.

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Re: Reacting to spam targetted to freebsd.org [was: Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.]

2002-11-21 Thread Miguel Mendez
On 21 Nov 2002 08:47:40 -0600
Kirk Strauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 Erm, I'm roughly 99.999% against that idea.  What if someone's writing
 to

What about the other 0.001 percent? :)

 ask how to secure their FreeBSD box that's currently being used as a
 spam relay (and is on many blackhole lists)?

It's not that a bad idea, honestly, just don't use the default 5
theshold, but a higher one.
 
 For what it's worth, I run SpamAssassin locally, and use it to *mark*
 possible spams, but never drop them.  Then I configured my client to
 filter based on the `X-Spam-Status' header into a spam folder that I
 periodically check.  Once a month or so, I find a piece of mail that
 *should* have passed but was marked, so I have to adjust my rules
 and/or whitelist accordingly.-- 

I also have postfix hand mail to spamassassin before it's delivered to
cyrus. However, I found it even better to permban several (useless for
me) TLDs at the firewall level (*.es *.kr *.cn *.tw and several
southamerican countries) I'm aware you can't do that on a server like
FreeBSD's, but found it extremely useful on my own one. I, personally,
have never recieved a legit mail from any of those countries.

The spam problem is a touchy one, but I'm sure some meassures are taken
at the server level for the mailing lists. I once heard a SPAM attempt
hits the FreeBSD mail servers once a second.

Cheers,
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Re: Reacting to spam targetted to freebsd.org [was: Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.]

2002-11-21 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:00:56PM +, Yann Golanski wrote:
 Quoth Giorgos Keramidas on Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 15:58:03 +0200
  This very spammer has hit the lists more than once, and every time I
  mailed {abuse|postmaster} at a2000.nl.  If they receive a few hundred
  messages for each spam message they let through they will certainly
  start acting fast :-)
 
 Would it be possible for the owners of the lsit to install something
 like SpamAssassin so that those messages actually don't get to us? 

The FreeBSD mail server ALREADY does a huge amount of spam filtering.
You're only seeing less than 1% of the spam that comes in.  The mail
server rejects about one spam *per second* to freebsd mailing lists.

Kris



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Re: Reacting to spam targetted to freebsd.org [was: Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.]

2002-11-21 Thread David Schultz
Thus spake Yann Golanski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Quoth Giorgos Keramidas on Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 15:58:03 +0200
  This very spammer has hit the lists more than once, and every time I
  mailed {abuse|postmaster} at a2000.nl.  If they receive a few hundred
  messages for each spam message they let through they will certainly
  start acting fast :-)
 
 Would it be possible for the owners of the lsit to install something
 like SpamAssassin so that those messages actually don't get to us? 

Just add a SPAM filter at your end.  By the way, this works far
better if people don't *reply* to the SPAM, circumventing your
filters.  ;-)

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Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.

2002-11-20 Thread Stephen Hovey
Oh bite me already

On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, sandra savimbi wrote:

  DEAR FRIEND,
  THIS LETTER MAY COME TO YOU AS A SURPRISE DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE
  HAVE NOT YET MET. THE MESSAGE COULD BE STRANGE BUT REAL IF YOU PAY
  SOME ATTENTION TO IT. I COULD HAVE NOTIFIED YOU ABOUT IT AT LEAST
  FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR INTEGRITY. PLEASE ACCEPT MY SINCERE APOLOGIES.
  IN BRINGING THIS MESSAGE OF GOODWILL TO YOU, I HAVE TO SAY THAT
  I HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF CAUSING YOU ANY PAINS.
  I AM MRS. SANDRA SAVIMBI, DAUGHTER OF THE LATE REBEL LEADER JONAS
  SAVIMBI OF ANGOLA WHO WAS KILLED ON THE 22ND OF FEBUARY 2002 .
  MY LATE FATHER, JONAS SAVIMBI WAS ABLE TO DEPOSIT A LARGE SUM OF
  MONEY IN DIFFERENT BANKS IN EUROPE AND THE MOVEMENT OF HIS FAMILY MEMBERS
  (INCLUDING ME) IS RESTRICTED. WE ARE FORBIDDEN TO EITHER TRAVEL
  ABROAD OR OUT OF OUR LOCALITIES. PRESENTLY, THE US$8,500,000.00 EIGHT
  MILLION, FIVE
  HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MY FATHER TRANSFERRED TO NETHERLANDS IS
  SAFE AND IS WITH A SECURITY FIRM. I AM THEREFORE SOLICITING YOUR
 HELP TO HAVE THIS MONEY TRANSFERRED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT BEFORE MY
  GOVERNMENT GET WIND OF THIS FUND. YOU MAY KNOW THAT MY FATHER WAS A REBEL LEADER IN 
ANGOLA BEFORE HIS DEATH AND MY REASON FOR DOING
  THIS IS BECAUSE IT WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR THE ANGOLAN GOVERNMENT
  TO TRACE MY FATHER'S MONEY TO AN INDIVIDUAL'S ACCOUNT, ESPECIALLY
  WHEN SUCH AN INDIVIDUAL HAS NO RELATIONSHIP WITH MY FATHER THEREBY
  KEEPING THAT MONEY FOR MY FAMILY USE. AT PRESENT THE MONEY AS I
  SAID IS KEPT IN A SECURITY COMPANY IN THE NETHERLAND.
  I AM CURRENTLY AND TEMPORARILY LIVING IN ANGOLA WITH MY HUSBAND. MY
  BROTHER HAS A REFUGEE STATUS IN THE NETHERLANDS. MOREOVER, THE POLITICAL
  CLIMATE IN ANGOLA AT THE MOMENT IS SO SENSITIVE AND UNSTABLE SO
  IT WILL BE BETTER WE DO THIS TRANSACTION NOW.
  WITH THIS PASSWORD AND INFORMATION I WILL SEND YOU, AND THE CHANGE OF
  OWNERSHIP THAT I WILL SEND TO THE SECURITY FIRM, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO
  REPRESENT US IN THE NETHERLANDS TO CLAIM THIS CONSIGNMENT FROM THE
  SECURITY FIRM. WHEN YOU ARE READY, I WILL GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION
  NEEDED BEFORE YOU CAN GET ACCESS TO THE FUND, YOU WILL THEN PROCEED
  TO NETHERLANDS WHERE YOU WILL SIGN THE FINAL RELEASE DOCUMENTS OF
  THE US$8,500,000.00 EIGHT, MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
  I WILL GIVE YOU FURTHER DETAILS WHEN I GET YOUR RESPONSE TO THIS LETTER
  ASSURING US THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO REPRESENT US IN THE NETHERLANDS
  AND THAT YOU WILL MAKE THIS TRANSACTION CONFIDENTIAL. IT IS VERY
  IMPORTANT THAT YOU GIVE ME YOUR PHONE AND FAX NUMBERS WHILE THIS IS KEPT
  CONFIDENTIAL.
  YOU CAN CONTACT ME WITH MY E-MAIL ADDRESS, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  YOU CAN ALSO SEND A COPY TO MY BROTHER WHO IS SEEKING ASSYLUM IN
  THE NETHERLANDS ON,
  
  YOURS SINCERELY,
  SANDRA SAVIMBI.
  
 
 
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Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.

2002-11-20 Thread Gary D Kline
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 09:07:57PM -0500, Stephen Hovey wrote:
 Oh bite me already
 
man, that was worth a laugh!  the endless reams of this spam
make me think of pt barnum.


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Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.

2002-11-20 Thread Stephen Hovey

Ok that its..

may chango (cabio sile) burn everything you own
may oshun curdle your innards
may your ancesters scream in their graves, and your children, in their
cradles.
may everything you touch turn to shit
may he who dwells at the cross roads rejoyce in my cigars and my alcohol
as he works my will on your sorry ass..

Live in hell

On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, sandra savimbi wrote:

  DEAR FRIEND,
  THIS LETTER MAY COME TO YOU AS A SURPRISE DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE
  HAVE NOT YET MET. THE MESSAGE COULD BE STRANGE BUT REAL IF YOU PAY
  SOME ATTENTION TO IT. I COULD HAVE NOTIFIED YOU ABOUT IT AT LEAST
  FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR INTEGRITY. PLEASE ACCEPT MY SINCERE APOLOGIES.
  IN BRINGING THIS MESSAGE OF GOODWILL TO YOU, I HAVE TO SAY THAT
  I HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF CAUSING YOU ANY PAINS.
  I AM MRS. SANDRA SAVIMBI, DAUGHTER OF THE LATE REBEL LEADER JONAS
  SAVIMBI OF ANGOLA WHO WAS KILLED ON THE 22ND OF FEBUARY 2002 .
  MY LATE FATHER, JONAS SAVIMBI WAS ABLE TO DEPOSIT A LARGE SUM OF
  MONEY IN DIFFERENT BANKS IN EUROPE AND THE MOVEMENT OF HIS FAMILY MEMBERS
  (INCLUDING ME) IS RESTRICTED. WE ARE FORBIDDEN TO EITHER TRAVEL
  ABROAD OR OUT OF OUR LOCALITIES. PRESENTLY, THE US$8,500,000.00 EIGHT
  MILLION, FIVE
  HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MY FATHER TRANSFERRED TO NETHERLANDS IS
  SAFE AND IS WITH A SECURITY FIRM. I AM THEREFORE SOLICITING YOUR
 HELP TO HAVE THIS MONEY TRANSFERRED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT BEFORE MY
  GOVERNMENT GET WIND OF THIS FUND. YOU MAY KNOW THAT MY FATHER WAS A REBEL LEADER IN 
ANGOLA BEFORE HIS DEATH AND MY REASON FOR DOING
  THIS IS BECAUSE IT WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR THE ANGOLAN GOVERNMENT
  TO TRACE MY FATHER'S MONEY TO AN INDIVIDUAL'S ACCOUNT, ESPECIALLY
  WHEN SUCH AN INDIVIDUAL HAS NO RELATIONSHIP WITH MY FATHER THEREBY
  KEEPING THAT MONEY FOR MY FAMILY USE. AT PRESENT THE MONEY AS I
  SAID IS KEPT IN A SECURITY COMPANY IN THE NETHERLAND.
  I AM CURRENTLY AND TEMPORARILY LIVING IN ANGOLA WITH MY HUSBAND. MY
  BROTHER HAS A REFUGEE STATUS IN THE NETHERLANDS. MOREOVER, THE POLITICAL
  CLIMATE IN ANGOLA AT THE MOMENT IS SO SENSITIVE AND UNSTABLE SO
  IT WILL BE BETTER WE DO THIS TRANSACTION NOW.
  WITH THIS PASSWORD AND INFORMATION I WILL SEND YOU, AND THE CHANGE OF
  OWNERSHIP THAT I WILL SEND TO THE SECURITY FIRM, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO
  REPRESENT US IN THE NETHERLANDS TO CLAIM THIS CONSIGNMENT FROM THE
  SECURITY FIRM. WHEN YOU ARE READY, I WILL GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION
  NEEDED BEFORE YOU CAN GET ACCESS TO THE FUND, YOU WILL THEN PROCEED
  TO NETHERLANDS WHERE YOU WILL SIGN THE FINAL RELEASE DOCUMENTS OF
  THE US$8,500,000.00 EIGHT, MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
  I WILL GIVE YOU FURTHER DETAILS WHEN I GET YOUR RESPONSE TO THIS LETTER
  ASSURING US THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO REPRESENT US IN THE NETHERLANDS
  AND THAT YOU WILL MAKE THIS TRANSACTION CONFIDENTIAL. IT IS VERY
  IMPORTANT THAT YOU GIVE ME YOUR PHONE AND FAX NUMBERS WHILE THIS IS KEPT
  CONFIDENTIAL.
  YOU CAN CONTACT ME WITH MY E-MAIL ADDRESS, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  YOU CAN ALSO SEND A COPY TO MY BROTHER WHO IS SEEKING ASSYLUM IN
  THE NETHERLANDS ON,
  
  YOURS SINCERELY,
  SANDRA SAVIMBI.
  
 
 
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