Re: Re: Re: Which latex should I install

2009-06-29 Thread Daniel Underwood
> I wanted to ask, but neglected to until now, did you install from the DVD or
> the network? Also, did you install for FreeBSD (pre-compiled binaries), or

I initially tried the network installation, but there are so many
packages/files to retrieve that I quit and went for the DVD install.
I recommend just downloading the DVD image; I believe it's compressed
with lzma2, which means the total data transfer should be much
smaller.

I installed the linux (or platform-independent) version. Works perfectly for me.
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Re: Re: Re: Which latex should I install

2009-06-29 Thread af300wsm

On Jun 26, 2009 7:32am, Daniel Underwood  wrote:

Hopefully Polytropon will chime in on this, but I had to install



TeXLive for everything to work.





Suggestion: try teTeX. If you encounter problems, then install TeXLive.



Daniel,

I wanted to ask, but neglected to until now, did you install from the DVD  
or the network? Also, did you install for FreeBSD (pre-compiled binaries),  
or did you install Linux binaries?


Andy
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Re: Re: Re: Which latex should I install

2009-06-26 Thread af300wsm

On Jun 26, 2009 10:40am, Roland Smith  wrote:

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 03:27:51PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:



> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:21:37AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote:



> > > Is there a FBSD port of TeXLive?



> >



> > No, but it's not necessary. Just go here



> > http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire.html> and download the DVD image.



>



> well.. I'll wait for some kind sole to put a texlive port together.



> Tetex port has been enough for me for some years now.





The thing is that teTeX hasn't been updated in years. It has in fact



been deprecated in favor of TeXLive. This is not a big problem with the



basic TeX engine, because that doesn't change that much. But pdfTeX (a



TeX that generates PDF output instead of DVI) has been evolving



rapidly. And you'll miss out on several years of updates of the macro



packages (like LaTeX and ConTeXt).





Another consideration is that TeXLive contains a much larger choice of



additional packages than teTeX.





So I would advise you to install TeXLive. The latest DVD comes with



FreeBSD binaries.





Look at the mailing list archives for threads called "LaTeX oder teTeX"



in October 2007, and "Installing latest version of LaTeX" in June



2009. In those threads I've posted some instructions on how to get



TeXLive to work. Installation is pretty easy, but you have to change



login.conf and manpath.conf to use the binaries and manpages. Normally



TeXLive keeps everything under its own tree (/usr/local/texlive), so it



won't mess up the trees /usr/local/{bin,share,...}. Do _not_ tell the



installer to put symbolic links in /usr/local/bin! That way removing



TeXLive is as easy as removing /usr/local/texlive.





Roland



Thanks Roland. Looks like TeXLive it is.

Andy
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Re: Re: Which latex should I install

2009-06-26 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 03:27:51PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:21:37AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote:
> > > Is there a FBSD port of TeXLive?
> > 
> > No, but it's not necessary.  Just go here
> >  and download the DVD image.
> 
> well.. I'll wait for some kind sole to put a texlive port together.
> Tetex port has been enough for me for some years now.

The thing is that teTeX hasn't been updated in years. It has in fact
been deprecated in favor of TeXLive. This is not a big problem with the
basic TeX engine, because that doesn't change that much. But pdfTeX (a
TeX that generates PDF output instead of DVI) has been evolving
rapidly. And you'll miss out on several years of updates of the macro
packages (like LaTeX and ConTeXt).

Another consideration is that TeXLive contains a much larger choice of
additional packages than teTeX.

So I would advise you to install TeXLive. The latest DVD comes with
FreeBSD binaries.

Look at the mailing list archives for threads called "LaTeX oder teTeX"
in October 2007, and "Installing latest version of LaTeX" in June
2009. In those threads I've posted some instructions on how to get
TeXLive to work. Installation is pretty easy, but you have to change
login.conf and manpath.conf to use the binaries and manpages. Normally
TeXLive keeps everything under its own tree (/usr/local/texlive), so it
won't mess up the trees /usr/local/{bin,share,...}. Do _not_ tell the
installer to put symbolic links in /usr/local/bin! That way removing
TeXLive is as easy as removing /usr/local/texlive.

Roland
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Re: Re: Which latex should I install

2009-06-26 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:21:37AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote:
> > Is there a FBSD port of TeXLive?
> 
> No, but it's not necessary.  Just go here
>  and download the DVD image.

well.. I'll wait for some kind sole to put a texlive port together.
Tetex port has been enough for me for some years now.

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Re: Re: Which latex should I install

2009-06-26 Thread Daniel Underwood
> There is... but not an official one. Romain Tartière made a special
> form of ports tree, to be integrated with the 'official' tree for
> TeXLive.

I didn't know that.  I've had no problems with the generic version though.
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Re: Re: Which latex should I install

2009-06-26 Thread Chris Rees
2009/6/26 Anton Shterenlikht :
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 09:32:31AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote:
>> Hopefully Polytropon will chime in on this, but I had to install
>> TeXLive for everything to work.
>>
>> Suggestion: try teTeX.  If you encounter problems, then install TeXLive.
>
> Is there a FBSD port of TeXLive?
>

There is... but not an official one. Romain Tartière made a special
form of ports tree, to be integrated with the 'official' tree for
TeXLive.

It's found at http://code.google.com/p/freebsd-texlive/wiki/Installing

I'm supposed to be doing work on it involving porting LyX... but I'm
committed to other stuff at the moment too :(

Chris


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Re: Re: Which latex should I install

2009-06-26 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 09:32:31AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote:
> Hopefully Polytropon will chime in on this, but I had to install
> TeXLive for everything to work.
> 
> Suggestion: try teTeX.  If you encounter problems, then install TeXLive.

Is there a FBSD port of TeXLive? 

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Re: Re: Which latex should I install

2009-06-26 Thread Daniel Underwood
Hopefully Polytropon will chime in on this, but I had to install
TeXLive for everything to work.

Suggestion: try teTeX.  If you encounter problems, then install TeXLive.
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Re: Re: Which latex should I install

2009-06-26 Thread af300wsm

On Jun 26, 2009 6:41am, Daniel Underwood  wrote:

I recently went through the ropes of installing latex on my FreeBSD



machine. You may the discussion I had helpful.





See # 256 and below, from here:



http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2009/freebsd-questions/20090607.freebsd-questions.html>




Thanks for the link to the previous discussion. So, should I use the  
TeXLive or teTeX given by Polytropon?


Andy
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