Re: TRIM and changing mount options
On Jul 25, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Trond Endrestøl wrote: On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 19:25-0700, aurfalien wrote: On Jul 24, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Alexandre Labarre wrote: Le mercredi 24 juillet 2013, aurfalien a écrit : On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: On Jul 23, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: At any rate, could some one; a) Explain how I am loading my file system as I'm used to fstab? b) How to run tunefs on my zroot c) How to determine if I actually have the needed TRIM support in my kernel I'm not sure if there's a way to query TRIM status on arbitrary geom providers, but you can see whether zfs successfully sent any TRIM requests by watching the output of sysctl kstat.zfs.misc.zio_trim. If .zio_trim.success increments and .unsupported (or .failed) doesn't, then you know that it's working. Looks like I don't have it. I keep reading that I must download the patch and make it which is not an issue. But I can't seem to find it. I've dl'd the 9.2 beta in hopes to check its src and see if its there. Looks like all I really need is the current rel. ZFS TRIM support was MFC'd into the 9 branch in June, so it wasn't in 9.1 but will be available in 9.2: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revisionrevision=251419 I actually got the 9.2 src and found what i was looking for so many thanks. Gonna figure out what step are required to compile this in to my current 9.1 rel. Thanks again. - aurf Hi, Why you do not track 9/Stable or wait 9.2-Release? We are at the first Beta stage of 9.2. (9.2-Beta 1). You cannot use freebsd-update to upgrade your 9.1-Release to 9.2-Beta 1 because there was a problem, but this will be resolved for 9.2-Beta 2 in the next days or weeks. Just my .2 cents Kind regards, Alexandre Hi, Whats the best list to submit oddities regarding freeBSD 9.2 Beta 1? Specifically, this line in 9.1 creates and mounts the fs under /mnt; zpool create -o altroot=/mnt -o cachefile=/var/tmp/zpool.cache zroot mirror /dev/gpt/disk0 /dev/gpt/disk1 But in 9.2 beta 1, its under /mnt/zroot. Just seems a bit odd is all. - aurf What does zfs get mountpoint zroot tell you in each case? Hi Trond, Mind you, this is a Live CD env. I am doing zpool mirror on a system during install. At any rate, in 9.2 beta 1 it shows; NAME PROPERTYVALUE SOURCE zroot mountpoint /mnt/zroot default On 9.1 it shows; NAME PROPERTYVALUE SOURCE zroot mountpoint /mnt local HTH and hope I am doing something wrong. - aurf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: TRIM and changing mount options
On Jul 25, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Trond Endrestøl wrote: On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 19:25-0700, aurfalien wrote: On Jul 24, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Alexandre Labarre wrote: Le mercredi 24 juillet 2013, aurfalien a écrit : On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: On Jul 23, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: At any rate, could some one; a) Explain how I am loading my file system as I'm used to fstab? b) How to run tunefs on my zroot c) How to determine if I actually have the needed TRIM support in my kernel I'm not sure if there's a way to query TRIM status on arbitrary geom providers, but you can see whether zfs successfully sent any TRIM requests by watching the output of sysctl kstat.zfs.misc.zio_trim. If .zio_trim.success increments and .unsupported (or .failed) doesn't, then you know that it's working. Looks like I don't have it. I keep reading that I must download the patch and make it which is not an issue. But I can't seem to find it. I've dl'd the 9.2 beta in hopes to check its src and see if its there. Looks like all I really need is the current rel. ZFS TRIM support was MFC'd into the 9 branch in June, so it wasn't in 9.1 but will be available in 9.2: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revisionrevision=251419 I actually got the 9.2 src and found what i was looking for so many thanks. Gonna figure out what step are required to compile this in to my current 9.1 rel. Thanks again. - aurf Hi, Why you do not track 9/Stable or wait 9.2-Release? We are at the first Beta stage of 9.2. (9.2-Beta 1). You cannot use freebsd-update to upgrade your 9.1-Release to 9.2-Beta 1 because there was a problem, but this will be resolved for 9.2-Beta 2 in the next days or weeks. Just my .2 cents Kind regards, Alexandre Hi, Whats the best list to submit oddities regarding freeBSD 9.2 Beta 1? Specifically, this line in 9.1 creates and mounts the fs under /mnt; zpool create -o altroot=/mnt -o cachefile=/var/tmp/zpool.cache zroot mirror /dev/gpt/disk0 /dev/gpt/disk1 But in 9.2 beta 1, its under /mnt/zroot. Just seems a bit odd is all. - aurf What does zfs get mountpoint zroot tell you in each case? Hi again, Specifying the command as follows forces same behavior as 9.1 so all is well with a slight mod; zpool create -o altroot=/ -o cachefile=/var/tmp/zpool.cache zroot mirror /dev/gpt/disk0 /dev/gpt/disk1 The change is colored in red. It was /mnt. - aurf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: TRIM and changing mount options
On Jul 24, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Alexandre Labarre wrote: Le mercredi 24 juillet 2013, aurfalien a écrit : On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: On Jul 23, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: At any rate, could some one; a) Explain how I am loading my file system as I'm used to fstab? b) How to run tunefs on my zroot c) How to determine if I actually have the needed TRIM support in my kernel I'm not sure if there's a way to query TRIM status on arbitrary geom providers, but you can see whether zfs successfully sent any TRIM requests by watching the output of sysctl kstat.zfs.misc.zio_trim. If .zio_trim.success increments and .unsupported (or .failed) doesn't, then you know that it's working. Looks like I don't have it. I keep reading that I must download the patch and make it which is not an issue. But I can't seem to find it. I've dl'd the 9.2 beta in hopes to check its src and see if its there. Looks like all I really need is the current rel. ZFS TRIM support was MFC'd into the 9 branch in June, so it wasn't in 9.1 but will be available in 9.2: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revisionrevision=251419 I actually got the 9.2 src and found what i was looking for so many thanks. Gonna figure out what step are required to compile this in to my current 9.1 rel. Thanks again. - aurf Hi, Why you do not track 9/Stable or wait 9.2-Release? We are at the first Beta stage of 9.2. (9.2-Beta 1). You cannot use freebsd-update to upgrade your 9.1-Release to 9.2-Beta 1 because there was a problem, but this will be resolved for 9.2-Beta 2 in the next days or weeks. Just my .2 cents Kind regards, Alexandre Hi, Whats the best list to submit oddities regarding freeBSD 9.2 Beta 1? Specifically, this line in 9.1 creates and mounts the fs under /mnt; zpool create -o altroot=/mnt -o cachefile=/var/tmp/zpool.cache zroot mirror /dev/gpt/disk0 /dev/gpt/disk1 But in 9.2 beta 1, its under /mnt/zroot. Just seems a bit odd is all. - aurf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: TRIM and changing mount options
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 19:25-0700, aurfalien wrote: On Jul 24, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Alexandre Labarre wrote: Le mercredi 24 juillet 2013, aurfalien a écrit : On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: On Jul 23, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: At any rate, could some one; a) Explain how I am loading my file system as I'm used to fstab? b) How to run tunefs on my zroot c) How to determine if I actually have the needed TRIM support in my kernel I'm not sure if there's a way to query TRIM status on arbitrary geom providers, but you can see whether zfs successfully sent any TRIM requests by watching the output of sysctl kstat.zfs.misc.zio_trim. If .zio_trim.success increments and .unsupported (or .failed) doesn't, then you know that it's working. Looks like I don't have it. I keep reading that I must download the patch and make it which is not an issue. But I can't seem to find it. I've dl'd the 9.2 beta in hopes to check its src and see if its there. Looks like all I really need is the current rel. ZFS TRIM support was MFC'd into the 9 branch in June, so it wasn't in 9.1 but will be available in 9.2: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revisionrevision=251419 I actually got the 9.2 src and found what i was looking for so many thanks. Gonna figure out what step are required to compile this in to my current 9.1 rel. Thanks again. - aurf Hi, Why you do not track 9/Stable or wait 9.2-Release? We are at the first Beta stage of 9.2. (9.2-Beta 1). You cannot use freebsd-update to upgrade your 9.1-Release to 9.2-Beta 1 because there was a problem, but this will be resolved for 9.2-Beta 2 in the next days or weeks. Just my .2 cents Kind regards, Alexandre Hi, Whats the best list to submit oddities regarding freeBSD 9.2 Beta 1? Specifically, this line in 9.1 creates and mounts the fs under /mnt; zpool create -o altroot=/mnt -o cachefile=/var/tmp/zpool.cache zroot mirror /dev/gpt/disk0 /dev/gpt/disk1 But in 9.2 beta 1, its under /mnt/zroot. Just seems a bit odd is all. - aurf What does zfs get mountpoint zroot tell you in each case? -- +---++ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +---++___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: TRIM and changing mount options
In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: On Jul 23, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: At any rate, could some one; a) Explain how I am loading my file system as I'm used to fstab? b) How to run tunefs on my zroot c) How to determine if I actually have the needed TRIM support in my kernel I'm not sure if there's a way to query TRIM status on arbitrary geom providers, but you can see whether zfs successfully sent any TRIM requests by watching the output of sysctl kstat.zfs.misc.zio_trim. If .zio_trim.success increments and .unsupported (or .failed) doesn't, then you know that it's working. Looks like I don't have it. I keep reading that I must download the patch and make it which is not an issue. But I can't seem to find it. I've dl'd the 9.2 beta in hopes to check its src and see if its there. Looks like all I really need is the current rel. ZFS TRIM support was MFC'd into the 9 branch in June, so it wasn't in 9.1 but will be available in 9.2: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revisionrevision=251419 -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: TRIM and changing mount options
On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: On Jul 23, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: At any rate, could some one; a) Explain how I am loading my file system as I'm used to fstab? b) How to run tunefs on my zroot c) How to determine if I actually have the needed TRIM support in my kernel I'm not sure if there's a way to query TRIM status on arbitrary geom providers, but you can see whether zfs successfully sent any TRIM requests by watching the output of sysctl kstat.zfs.misc.zio_trim. If .zio_trim.success increments and .unsupported (or .failed) doesn't, then you know that it's working. Looks like I don't have it. I keep reading that I must download the patch and make it which is not an issue. But I can't seem to find it. I've dl'd the 9.2 beta in hopes to check its src and see if its there. Looks like all I really need is the current rel. ZFS TRIM support was MFC'd into the 9 branch in June, so it wasn't in 9.1 but will be available in 9.2: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revisionrevision=251419 Thanks for the link. Is it something I can simply compile in to my 9.1? If so, would you know how do I get the patches? - aurf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: TRIM and changing mount options
On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: On Jul 23, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: At any rate, could some one; a) Explain how I am loading my file system as I'm used to fstab? b) How to run tunefs on my zroot c) How to determine if I actually have the needed TRIM support in my kernel I'm not sure if there's a way to query TRIM status on arbitrary geom providers, but you can see whether zfs successfully sent any TRIM requests by watching the output of sysctl kstat.zfs.misc.zio_trim. If .zio_trim.success increments and .unsupported (or .failed) doesn't, then you know that it's working. Looks like I don't have it. I keep reading that I must download the patch and make it which is not an issue. But I can't seem to find it. I've dl'd the 9.2 beta in hopes to check its src and see if its there. Looks like all I really need is the current rel. ZFS TRIM support was MFC'd into the 9 branch in June, so it wasn't in 9.1 but will be available in 9.2: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revisionrevision=251419 I actually got the 9.2 src and found what i was looking for so many thanks. Gonna figure out what step are required to compile this in to my current 9.1 rel. Thanks again. - aurf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: TRIM and changing mount options
On Jul 24, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Alexandre Labarre wrote: Le mercredi 24 juillet 2013, aurfalien a écrit : On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: On Jul 23, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: At any rate, could some one; a) Explain how I am loading my file system as I'm used to fstab? b) How to run tunefs on my zroot c) How to determine if I actually have the needed TRIM support in my kernel I'm not sure if there's a way to query TRIM status on arbitrary geom providers, but you can see whether zfs successfully sent any TRIM requests by watching the output of sysctl kstat.zfs.misc.zio_trim. If .zio_trim.success increments and .unsupported (or .failed) doesn't, then you know that it's working. Looks like I don't have it. I keep reading that I must download the patch and make it which is not an issue. But I can't seem to find it. I've dl'd the 9.2 beta in hopes to check its src and see if its there. Looks like all I really need is the current rel. ZFS TRIM support was MFC'd into the 9 branch in June, so it wasn't in 9.1 but will be available in 9.2: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revisionrevision=251419 I actually got the 9.2 src and found what i was looking for so many thanks. Gonna figure out what step are required to compile this in to my current 9.1 rel. Thanks again. - aurf Hi, Why you do not track 9/Stable or wait 9.2-Release? We are at the first Beta stage of 9.2. (9.2-Beta 1). You cannot use freebsd-update to upgrade your 9.1-Release to 9.2-Beta 1 because there was a problem, but this will be resolved for 9.2-Beta 2 in the next days or weeks. Just my .2 cents Thanks for the money :) I'll wait, spending too much time futzing with this versus learning FreeBSD. - aurf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: TRIM and changing mount options
Le mercredi 24 juillet 2013, aurfalien a écrit : On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: On Jul 23, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: At any rate, could some one; a) Explain how I am loading my file system as I'm used to fstab? b) How to run tunefs on my zroot c) How to determine if I actually have the needed TRIM support in my kernel I'm not sure if there's a way to query TRIM status on arbitrary geom providers, but you can see whether zfs successfully sent any TRIM requests by watching the output of sysctl kstat.zfs.misc.zio_trim. If .zio_trim.success increments and .unsupported (or .failed) doesn't, then you know that it's working. Looks like I don't have it. I keep reading that I must download the patch and make it which is not an issue. But I can't seem to find it. I've dl'd the 9.2 beta in hopes to check its src and see if its there. Looks like all I really need is the current rel. ZFS TRIM support was MFC'd into the 9 branch in June, so it wasn't in 9.1 but will be available in 9.2: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revisionrevision=251419 I actually got the 9.2 src and found what i was looking for so many thanks. Gonna figure out what step are required to compile this in to my current 9.1 rel. Thanks again. - aurf Hi, Why you do not track 9/Stable or wait 9.2-Release? We are at the first Beta stage of 9.2. (9.2-Beta 1). You cannot use freebsd-update to upgrade your 9.1-Release to 9.2-Beta 1 because there was a problem, but this will be resolved for 9.2-Beta 2 in the next days or weeks. Just my .2 cents Kind regards, Alexandre ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: TRIM and changing mount options
In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: I've some what blindly followed a how to on installing FreeBSD 9.1 on a ZFS mirror. My typing is horrid so I simply ssh'd to a live CD env and pasted line by line as per the how to found here; http://wp.strahlert.net/wordpress/zfs-2/installing-freebsd-9-1-using-root-on-zfs-and-gpt-disks/ All is well, no issues with replacing disks, testing failures etc... But seeing that my system drives are SSDs, I thought to perhaps add noatime, etc... to avoid slow downs common in excessive SSD usage. However my fstab is only mounting swap partitions and I have no idea how my file system is being mounted :) Also, I would like to use tunefs in finding if I have TRIM enabled as I did load it via boot.conf I kinda feel like I'm willy nilly adding load lines w/o seeing if I actually have the TRIM patch installed :) At any rate, could some one; a) Explain how I am loading my file system as I'm used to fstab? b) How to run tunefs on my zroot c) How to determine if I actually have the needed TRIM support in my kernel ZFS automatically opens pools that were previously imported ( this info is stored in /boot/zfs/zpool.cache ), and automatically mounts any filesystems that have a mountpoint specified, so fstab isn't needed. Tunefs is a UFS-only command, so it won't help you here. Most zfs properties can be set on the fly with the zfs command. You can disable atime on your ZFS filesytem with zfs set atime=off zroot. All the filesystems created in zpool will inherit the value. I'm not sure if there's a way to query TRIM status on arbitrary geom providers, but you can see whether zfs successfully sent any TRIM requests by watching the output of sysctl kstat.zfs.misc.zio_trim. If .zio_trim.success increments and .unsupported (or .failed) doesn't, then you know that it's working. -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: TRIM and changing mount options
On Jul 23, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 23), aurfalien said: I've some what blindly followed a how to on installing FreeBSD 9.1 on a ZFS mirror. My typing is horrid so I simply ssh'd to a live CD env and pasted line by line as per the how to found here; http://wp.strahlert.net/wordpress/zfs-2/installing-freebsd-9-1-using-root-on-zfs-and-gpt-disks/ All is well, no issues with replacing disks, testing failures etc... But seeing that my system drives are SSDs, I thought to perhaps add noatime, etc... to avoid slow downs common in excessive SSD usage. However my fstab is only mounting swap partitions and I have no idea how my file system is being mounted :) Also, I would like to use tunefs in finding if I have TRIM enabled as I did load it via boot.conf I kinda feel like I'm willy nilly adding load lines w/o seeing if I actually have the TRIM patch installed :) At any rate, could some one; a) Explain how I am loading my file system as I'm used to fstab? b) How to run tunefs on my zroot c) How to determine if I actually have the needed TRIM support in my kernel ZFS automatically opens pools that were previously imported ( this info is stored in /boot/zfs/zpool.cache ), and automatically mounts any filesystems that have a mountpoint specified, so fstab isn't needed. Tunefs is a UFS-only command, Read the man page after sending, sorry for this. I try not to post obvious stuff, meaning ones that you can 'man' :) so it won't help you here. Most zfs properties can be set on the fly with the zfs command. You can disable atime on your ZFS filesytem with zfs set atime=off zroot. All the filesystems created in zpool will inherit the value. I'm not sure if there's a way to query TRIM status on arbitrary geom providers, but you can see whether zfs successfully sent any TRIM requests by watching the output of sysctl kstat.zfs.misc.zio_trim. If .zio_trim.success increments and .unsupported (or .failed) doesn't, then you know that it's working. Looks like I don't have it. I keep reading that I must download the patch and make it which is not an issue. But I can't seem to find it. So I got this; http://blog.multiplay.co.uk/dropzone/freebsd/zfs-trim-patchset83.tbz But I keep reading that I need PJDs zfs patch set in addition. I've been reading this; http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/ZFS-TRIM-support-committed-to-HEAD-td5746045.html Do you know how I can pull the source for this? I've dl'd the 9.2 beta in hopes to check its src and see if its there. Looks like all I really need is the current rel. - aurf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: TRIM and changing mount options
On Jul 23, 2013, at 8:10 PM, kpn...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 03:54:57PM -0700, aurfalien wrote: Hi, I've some what blindly followed a how to on installing FreeBSD 9.1 on a ZFS mirror. My typing is horrid so I simply ssh'd to a live CD env and pasted line by line as per the how to found here; http://wp.strahlert.net/wordpress/zfs-2/installing-freebsd-9-1-using-root-on-zfs-and-gpt-disks/ All is well, no issues with replacing disks, testing failures etc... But seeing that my system drives are SSDs, I thought to perhaps add noatime, etc... to avoid slow downs common in excessive SSD usage. However my fstab is only mounting swap partitions and I have no idea how my file system is being mounted :) That's typical for ZFS. Usually ZFS handles mounting filesystems (datasets in ZFS parlance) itself. Thats actually really cool and powerful. Use the zfs command to see all the settings for individual datasets. For example: [kpn@gunsight1 ~]$ zfs get atime gs1p/usr NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE gs1p/usr atime on default To see the atime setting for all datasets use 'zfs get atime'. To see all settings replace 'atime' with 'all'. To change the setting use 'zfs set'. Settings are inherited by datasets mounted inside a dataset. To disable atime for all datasets you can set it to 'off' at the top dataset. Or you can set it for just some of your datasets, like maybe the one mounted at /usr. You'll probably need atime enabled if you read mail on this machine. Also see 'zfs inherit'. For sure, thanks for this. Also, I would like to use tunefs in finding if I have TRIM enabled as I did load it via boot.conf Sorry, I can't help with that. Somebody else can chime in. Wondering if I should query the dev list but don't wanna post rather mundane questions for them. I can't seem to find the patch set to download. - aurf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org