Re: When I put up any version of FBSD I usually try to install Maxima. Which fails because the sub-install of gnuplot fails.

2012-02-18 Thread Gautham Ganapathy
On 28 January 2012 19:54, Henry Olyer henry.ol...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been using FBSD since 2000 and a Macsyma user since 1976.

 And done my own FBSD installs since 5.1, I think, maybe a few before.  For
 those early years I was content to install a lisp and then do my own FTP's,
 getting maxima and doing things manually.  No problems.

 But the installs have never worked.  Specificially, using the sysinstall
 tool, going to Packages, going to Math, and dropping down to Maxima,
 FAILS!!!

 And a few years ago everyone yelled at me and said I was wrong.  But I've
 had this problem on at least a dozen machines, from laptop's to desktops,
 to blades.

 And when Gnuplot failed to install that stopped the installation of maxima.

 So I did workarounds but lost graphing and other resources.


I did face a gnuplot-related problem while trying to install maxima
from ports on 8-STABLE sometime back. Turned out that I had changed
some build flag for one of the ports on that gnuplot depended on,
causing it to depend back on gnuplot. So when I built maxima, it would
go to gnuplot and then just keep cycling through a whole lot of
dependencies. I am not able to recall which port caused the problem,
but if this is related to the problem you are facing and you haven't
changed any build options, it should build properly.

Cheers
Gautham
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Re: When I put up any version of FBSD I usually try to install Maxima. Which fails because the sub-install of gnuplot fails.

2012-01-28 Thread Roland Smith
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 02:57:02AM -0500, Henry Olyer wrote:
 When I put up any version of FBSD I usually try to install Maxima.  Which
 fails because the sub-install of gnuplot fails.
 
 I go to through various work-arounds, different things.
 
 But Saturday I will be installing 9.0 and would like to have a successful
 install.  Ideas?

Install gnuplot before maxima, so you can see why it goes wrong. 

Use an empty make.conf in case you run into weird compilation problems.

The default build of gnuplot is quite heavy, pulling in wxwidgets and teTeX.
Personally, I would recommend the following settings: enable X11, GD, gridbox,
thinsplines and cairo, and disable the rest; pdflib didn't work last time I
tried it. WXwidgets is overkill IMO, the standard X11 support works fine. And
teTeX is deprecated upstream in favor of TeXLive.

I've been using gnuplot like this without problems for years, on i386 and amd64.


Hope this helps.

Roland
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Re: When I put up any version of FBSD I usually try to install Maxima. Which fails because the sub-install of gnuplot fails.

2012-01-28 Thread Michael L. Squires
I just compiled maxima from ports using default settings under 
FreeBSD 8-STABLE (updated 12/24/2011) and had no problems with the compile 
(i.e., I just su'd to root, did a cd /usr/ports/math/maxima;make).


This was under the amd64 version of FreeBSD (hardware is a Tyan S4882 quad 
Opteron).


I just upgraded from 7.4 to 8.2-RELEASE and then, as usually, updated to 
the STABLE version using cvs.  I usually don't upgrade to a newer 
version until it becomes obviously necessary due to either features I need 
in the newer release or the ending of support for the version I'm 
currently using.


I wonder what versions you've been trying to install, since I've rarely 
had problems installing from ports when upgrading as described above.


Mike Squires
mikes at siralan.org
UN*X at home since 1986

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Re: When I put up any version of FBSD I usually try to install Maxima. Which fails because the sub-install of gnuplot fails.

2012-01-28 Thread Henry Olyer
I've been using FBSD since 2000 and a Macsyma user since 1976.

And done my own FBSD installs since 5.1, I think, maybe a few before.  For
those early years I was content to install a lisp and then do my own FTP's,
getting maxima and doing things manually.  No problems.

But the installs have never worked.  Specificially, using the sysinstall
tool, going to Packages, going to Math, and dropping down to Maxima,
FAILS!!!

And a few years ago everyone yelled at me and said I was wrong.  But I've
had this problem on at least a dozen machines, from laptop's to desktops,
to blades.

And when Gnuplot failed to install that stopped the installation of maxima.

So I did workarounds but lost graphing and other resources.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Michael L. Squires mi...@siralan.orgwrote:

 I just compiled maxima from ports using default settings under FreeBSD
 8-STABLE (updated 12/24/2011) and had no problems with the compile (i.e., I
 just su'd to root, did a cd /usr/ports/math/maxima;make).

 This was under the amd64 version of FreeBSD (hardware is a Tyan S4882 quad
 Opteron).

 I just upgraded from 7.4 to 8.2-RELEASE and then, as usually, updated to
 the STABLE version using cvs.  I usually don't upgrade to a newer
 version until it becomes obviously necessary due to either features I need
 in the newer release or the ending of support for the version I'm currently
 using.

 I wonder what versions you've been trying to install, since I've rarely
 had problems installing from ports when upgrading as described above.

 Mike Squires
 mikes at siralan.org
 UN*X at home since 1986


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Re: When I put up any version of FBSD I usually try to install Maxima. Which fails because the sub-install of gnuplot fails.

2012-01-28 Thread Michael L. Squires
I've only installed a few programs from packages at installation time; 
almost all of my installations and upgrades have been by compiling from 
ports and then upgrading (with recompilation) using portupgrade.


This is a habit I got into a long time ago, and which I continue without 
any specific reason, other than it's always worked for me.


One workaround would be to install gnuplot from ports (compiling it) and 
then installing maxima from packages.  My wild guess is that there's 
something either different between the package version of gnuplot and the 
version created by a compile from ports or that there is something 
different between the system on which the packages version of gnuplot was 
created and your system.


I've run into a few programs where dependencies weren't handled correctly; 
in those cases I've had to manually install (by compiling) the dependency 
and then continuing with the installation of the program itself.


Sorry you've been having problems (and gotten less than sympathetic 
responses).


Mike Squires
mikes at siralan.org
UN*X at home since 1986



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