Re: Windows Compatibility?

2005-11-18 Thread Bart Silverstrim


On Nov 17, 2005, at 7:51 PM, Peter Clutton wrote:


On 11/18/05, Augusto Montenegro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am looking into changing my Windows Operating system toFreeBSD or 
Linux.
  Most of my programs run in Windows. Can I use FreeBSD as my OS to 
run my programs?


You can, with tools such as Wine, but all is not guaranteed to run
smoothly. I have pretty much found a much much better replacement for
everything I used to use on windows, and would never go back. If you
search around, and have a willingness to learn, you will probably find
the same.


What I've found it comes down to...

1) If you're looking for another platform and need an office suite, a 
web browser, an email client, etc...Linux or OS X are wonderful if 
you're willing to look around and learn your stuff.  Some distro's of 
Linux even strip away most of the necessity of thinking, with defaults 
and presets that would suit most users.
2) If you're just looking for another platform and need Microsoft 
Office, Internet Explorer, Outlook Express to run...stick with Windows. 
 Grafting those applications onto another platform is an exercise in 
frustration and, in my opinion, foolishness.  You spent all that time 
installing Linux so you could run...Internet Explorer?


I fall into the former.  When necessity dictates that specific 
applications must be run that only use the Win32 API, I usually use 
VirtualPC or Qemu (right now I'm using OS X with a lot of toys from 
Fink) to run them until I can go back to my usual platform.  If Wine 
can run the application, more power to the project, but for everyday 
usage I need a web browser and office suite, not necessarily a specific 
application.  If you primarily use a specific application that is made 
only for a specific platform, run that platform unless it *IS* very 
stable under Wine or can be used under an emulator (but why would you 
want to spend most of your working time in an emulator?).


If you're curious about another platform, try Knoppix (or Ubuntu Live, 
or any of the other live ISO's out there) or set up a dual-boot 
configuration on your system to give it a trial run.  But your first 
questions probably shouldn't be something like Can I get 
Photoshop/IE/OE/another Windows-specific application to run on 
Linux? if you're just curious about what's available out there.  You 
should probably be asking, I use XYZ a lot...is there a similar 
application for Linux I could try?


Windows compatibility just means Wine will run Windows email viruses 
and crash as regularly as Windows does.


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Re: Windows Compatibility?

2005-11-18 Thread Ashley Moran
On Thursday 17 November 2005 20:45, Eric Schuele wrote:
 True enough.  *Most* things have equivalents in the *BSD world.

 However, if you have some special needs there are windows and/or PC
 emulators.  WINE and qemu are the two I hear about most.  I have used
 qemu very successfully to run the one MS app I can not get rid of
 CheckPoint SecuRemote for VPN connectivity to my office.


I've recently switched my work desktop to FreeBSD 6.  Virtually everything I 
could to before I can now do as well as or better.  I found an old Pentium 3 
machine to run Windows, and when I need it I can VNC in.  (If you use WinXP I 
think you can use rdektop which is more than fast enough for occasional use).

You could also consider vmware, which is like qemu but faster, and only $189 
(cheaper than a second PC if you don't have one spare)

Having said all this, I haven't booted my Windows machine today.

Ashley
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RE: Windows Compatibility?

2005-11-18 Thread Bob Middaugh
Hi Augusto,

Build yourself a FreeBSD box on modern hardware with Xorg, and KDE or
Gnome and you won't regret it.  There are remote desktop and vnc utils
to get to a windows box for using windowscentric apps, they work great
and are hassle free.  I'll bet in a year's time, that windows box
doesn't even get turned on anymore.  FreeBSD is a pleasure to use, and
the learning curve is not THAT great, especially with this mailing
list, and if you're motivated.  Do yourself a favor.

Good luck,
Bob

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 I am looking into changing my Windows Operating system 
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   Most of my programs run in Windows. Can I use FreeBSD as my 
 OS to run my programs?
   
   Thank you.
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Re: Windows Compatibility?

2005-11-17 Thread Cornelis Swanepoel
 Most of my programs run in Windows. Can I use FreeBSD as my OS to run my
 programs?



That depends entirely on what the programs are that you're actually running,
if it's a web browser, an email client and an Office productivity suite
you'll be able to find the equivalent(actually better) of the microsoft
offerings on FreeBSD.
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Re: Windows Compatibility?

2005-11-17 Thread Eric Schuele

Cornelis Swanepoel wrote:

 Most of my programs run in Windows. Can I use FreeBSD as my OS to run my


programs?





That depends entirely on what the programs are that you're actually running,
if it's a web browser, an email client and an Office productivity suite
you'll be able to find the equivalent(actually better) of the microsoft
offerings on FreeBSD.


True enough.  *Most* things have equivalents in the *BSD world.

However, if you have some special needs there are windows and/or PC 
emulators.  WINE and qemu are the two I hear about most.  I have used 
qemu very successfully to run the one MS app I can not get rid of 
CheckPoint SecuRemote for VPN connectivity to my office.



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Re: Windows Compatibility?

2005-11-17 Thread Peter Clutton
On 11/18/05, Augusto Montenegro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am looking into changing my Windows Operating system toFreeBSD or Linux.
   Most of my programs run in Windows. Can I use FreeBSD as my OS to run my 
 programs?

You can, with tools such as Wine, but all is not guaranteed to run
smoothly. I have pretty much found a much much better replacement for
everything I used to use on windows, and would never go back. If you
search around, and have a willingness to learn, you will probably find
the same.
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