Solved - Atheros AR9285 on FreeBSD-8 [WAS: Re: Wireless networking question]
Hello Chip, On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:03:21 -0700 Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: On Apr 30 2010 13:39, S Roberts wrote: Hello Chip, Good to hear from you.., On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:52:13 -0700 Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: On Apr 26 2010 22:00, Carl Chave wrote: More info: I found the following in the output of pciconf -vl: no...@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x10891a3b chip=0x002b168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' class = network From here: http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendor_details.php?id=174 It looks like someone has already patched 8.0-STABLE: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=6310highlight=Atheros+AR9285 The link to the .diff file 404's now, though. How can I get a copy? Or maybe I should just upgrade to STABLE? Well.., personally, I'd ping the patch author to confirm, but Yes, bumping to next STABLE would be the preferred option myself.., Regards, S Roberts Just for closure: upgrading to 8.0-STABLE went smoothly, and the wireless device works! Excellent - good to hear you got it all working. For posterity, I've updated the Subject Line so that others may benefit from this.., Regards, S Roberts Thanks for the help. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
Hello Chip, Good to hear from you.., On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:52:13 -0700 Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: On Apr 26 2010 22:00, Carl Chave wrote: More info: I found the following in the output of pciconf -vl: no...@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x10891a3b chip=0x002b168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' class = network From here: http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendor_details.php?id=174 It looks like someone has already patched 8.0-STABLE: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=6310highlight=Atheros+AR9285 The link to the .diff file 404's now, though. How can I get a copy? Or maybe I should just upgrade to STABLE? Well.., personally, I'd ping the patch author to confirm, but Yes, bumping to next STABLE would be the preferred option myself.., Regards, S Roberts ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 30 2010 13:39, S Roberts wrote: Hello Chip, Good to hear from you.., On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:52:13 -0700 Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: On Apr 26 2010 22:00, Carl Chave wrote: More info: I found the following in the output of pciconf -vl: no...@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x10891a3b chip=0x002b168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' class = network From here: http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendor_details.php?id=174 It looks like someone has already patched 8.0-STABLE: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=6310highlight=Atheros+AR9285 The link to the .diff file 404's now, though. How can I get a copy? Or maybe I should just upgrade to STABLE? Well.., personally, I'd ping the patch author to confirm, but Yes, bumping to next STABLE would be the preferred option myself.., Regards, S Roberts Just for closure: upgrading to 8.0-STABLE went smoothly, and the wireless device works! Thanks for the help. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 26 2010 22:00, Carl Chave wrote: More info: I found the following in the output of pciconf -vl: no...@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x10891a3b chip=0x002b168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' class = network From here: http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendor_details.php?id=174 It looks like someone has already patched 8.0-STABLE: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=6310highlight=Atheros+AR9285 The link to the .diff file 404's now, though. How can I get a copy? Or maybe I should just upgrade to STABLE? -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 26 2010 22:00, Carl Chave wrote: More info: I found the following in the output of pciconf -vl: no...@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x10891a3b chip=0x002b168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' class = network From here: http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendor_details.php?id=174 0x002b is Atheros AR9285 Wireless LAN 802.11 a/b/g/n Controller ___ Thanks! That's a great resource. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 25 2010 22:15, Kevin Kinsey wrote: Let me preface my commentary with I'm way out of my league, so #include disclaimer.h and all that ... For starters, in re: above, didn't someone suggest libpciaccess as the source for scanpci? I can't tell if you are misunderstanding what S Roberts suggested, or I am misunderstanding what you are responding. I'm pretty sure there's some misunderstanding here, though. Thanks for your response, Kevin. I did try rebuilding libpciaccess, to no avail. I also searched elsewhere. I thought we had pciconf output that stated it was an Atheros chipset? In that case, it would be the Azurewave, right? I'd suspect it might be supported under ath(4), but you'd wanna read the manpage and possibly even the source for any kind of confirmation on that; the manpage does specifically say that adapters based on the AR5005VL aren't supported. However, the manpage might be slightly out-of-date, also. Yes, pciconf says Atheros. I guess that does rule out Intel, and I see from a little searching that at least some Azurewave devices use an Atheros chipset. I, too, am a little out of my depth in this region, as is probably obvious from my posts. The other thing I recall seeing is that a new variant of a supported chipset comes out, and the driver code doesn't recognize it even though it might work well. Used to be something like a VENDOR_ID string in the source files; I don't know if it's still the case, but if it was, some people have been able to hack their own device support in rare cases simply by adding the new info to the driver file and recompiling it, but you'd want someone with a lot more $OS_foo than I have to help out with that (or tell you if it's even possible). This is open-source stuff; you might even get sam@ 's attention and get help from the writer himself if you're wearing your lucky sneakers. Yes, I've seen that done with video drivers. Perhaps I'll give it a go with the ath or uath driver, neither of which work for me out of the box (so to speak). Thanks again. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
More info: I found the following in the output of pciconf -vl: no...@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x10891a3b chip=0x002b168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' class = network From here: http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendor_details.php?id=174 0x002b is Atheros AR9285 Wireless LAN 802.11 a/b/g/n Controller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 24 2010 23:51, S Roberts wrote: I believe its been bundled into the libpciaccess port: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/devel/libpciaccess/ Doesn't seem to be there, and google isn't being helpful. A search of freshports.org didn't turn up anything either. Searching freebsd.org only shows our conversation. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
Chip Camden wrote: On Apr 24 2010 23:51, S Roberts wrote: I believe its been bundled into the libpciaccess port: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/devel/libpciaccess/ Doesn't seem to be there, and google isn't being helpful. A search of freshports.org didn't turn up anything either. Searching freebsd.org only shows our conversation. Likely your ports tree is rather out-of-date? The port directory is at /usr/ports/devel/libpciacess, and the import date on the Makefile is May 2008. Or, perhaps ports aren't installed? Try: $pkg_add -r \ ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/Packages-8-stable/devel/libpciaccess-0.10.6_1.tbz Kevin Kinsey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
Hello Chip, On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:10:40 -0700 Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: On Apr 24 2010 23:51, S Roberts wrote: I believe its been bundled into the libpciaccess port: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/devel/libpciaccess/ Doesn't seem to be there, and google isn't being helpful. A search of freshports.org didn't turn up anything either. Searching freebsd.org only shows our conversation. Hmmm.., you sure your ports system is installed / up-to-date there? Do you have any of the docs that would have shipped with the notebook? If not, I searched ASUS, and found a link to the English version manual here: http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-usproduct=3model=K72Ftype=mapf_type=19 I've not downloaded it, so please see if there's anything that can assist. There **are** other resources at the ASUS site - you just have to use the menu on the right to select your particular model and review the list of resources that gets returned.., Hope this helps.., Regards, S Roberts ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 25 2010 21:26, S Roberts wrote: Hmmm.., you sure your ports system is installed / up-to-date there? Do you have any of the docs that would have shipped with the notebook? If not, I searched ASUS, and found a link to the English version manual here: http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-usproduct=3model=K72Ftype=mapf_type=19 I've not downloaded it, so please see if there's anything that can assist. There **are** other resources at the ASUS site - you just have to use the menu on the right to select your particular model and review the list of resources that gets returned.., Hope this helps.., Regards, S Roberts Thanks for the attempt to help, but ports are up-to-date. I'm on 8.0-RELEASE amd64 -- maybe scanpci isn't available on amd64? The download for the manual is exactly the same as the paper manual that came with the notebook. It gives very little technical information. On the web site, all I could find is that it's 802.11n capable, which I already knew from the sales pamphlet. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 25 2010 16:18, Chip Camden wrote: On Apr 25 2010 21:26, S Roberts wrote: Hmmm.., you sure your ports system is installed / up-to-date there? Do you have any of the docs that would have shipped with the notebook? If not, I searched ASUS, and found a link to the English version manual here: http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-usproduct=3model=K72Ftype=mapf_type=19 I've not downloaded it, so please see if there's anything that can assist. There **are** other resources at the ASUS site - you just have to use the menu on the right to select your particular model and review the list of resources that gets returned.., Hope this helps.., Regards, S Roberts Thanks for the attempt to help, but ports are up-to-date. I'm on 8.0-RELEASE amd64 -- maybe scanpci isn't available on amd64? The download for the manual is exactly the same as the paper manual that came with the notebook. It gives very little technical information. On the web site, all I could find is that it's 802.11n capable, which I already knew from the sales pamphlet. OK -- searching the ASUS site for Windows 7 64bit docs (that's what came on it), I find three possibilities for the wireless device: 1. Intel 1000 2. Intel 6200 3. Azurewave Looks like both of the first two are addressed by driver iwn on OpenBSD, but not on FreeBSD. The third one I don't see anywhere. Looking here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_wireless_drivers#FreeBSD Looks like that page was last updated for FreeBSD on April 25. In any case, I tried iwn, and that doesn't work. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
Chip Camden wrote: On Apr 25 2010 16:18, Chip Camden wrote: On Apr 25 2010 21:26, S Roberts wrote: Hmmm.., you sure your ports system is installed / up-to-date there? Do you have any of the docs that would have shipped with the notebook? If not, I searched ASUS, and found a link to the English version manual here: http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-usproduct=3model=K72Ftype=mapf_type=19 I've not downloaded it, so please see if there's anything that can assist. There **are** other resources at the ASUS site - you just have to use the menu on the right to select your particular model and review the list of resources that gets returned.., Thanks for the attempt to help, but ports are up-to-date. I'm on 8.0-RELEASE amd64 -- maybe scanpci isn't available on amd64? Let me preface my commentary with I'm way out of my league, so #include disclaimer.h and all that ... For starters, in re: above, didn't someone suggest libpciaccess as the source for scanpci? I can't tell if you are misunderstanding what S Roberts suggested, or I am misunderstanding what you are responding. I'm pretty sure there's some misunderstanding here, though. The download for the manual is exactly the same as the paper manual that came with the notebook. It gives very little technical information. On the web site, all I could find is that it's 802.11n capable, which I already knew from the sales pamphlet. OK -- searching the ASUS site for Windows 7 64bit docs (that's what came on it), I find three possibilities for the wireless device: 1. Intel 1000 2. Intel 6200 3. Azurewave Looks like both of the first two are addressed by driver iwn on OpenBSD, but not on FreeBSD. The third one I don't see anywhere. Looking here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_wireless_drivers#FreeBSD Looks like that page was last updated for FreeBSD on April 25. In any case, I tried iwn, and that doesn't work. I thought we had pciconf output that stated it was an Atheros chipset? In that case, it would be the Azurewave, right? I'd suspect it might be supported under ath(4), but you'd wanna read the manpage and possibly even the source for any kind of confirmation on that; the manpage does specifically say that adapters based on the AR5005VL aren't supported. However, the manpage might be slightly out-of-date, also. The other thing I recall seeing is that a new variant of a supported chipset comes out, and the driver code doesn't recognize it even though it might work well. Used to be something like a VENDOR_ID string in the source files; I don't know if it's still the case, but if it was, some people have been able to hack their own device support in rare cases simply by adding the new info to the driver file and recompiling it, but you'd want someone with a lot more $OS_foo than I have to help out with that (or tell you if it's even possible). This is open-source stuff; you might even get sam@ 's attention and get help from the writer himself if you're wearing your lucky sneakers. Kevin Kinsey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
Hello Chip, On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 13:39:47 -0700 Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: A new notebook (ASUS K72F) has integrated wireles networking. The technical specifications are sadly lacking, so I don't know what chipset. The wired ethernet appears to use uath, but that's not working as a wlandev. Since most everything else is Intel, I figured it could be an Intel chipset, and since it supports 802.11n, I think its probably in the 6000 series. I tried all the Intel drivers that are listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_wireless_drivers#FreeBSD snipped Can anyone shed some light here? Is there any way to query the hardware, short of opening the box (which will void the warranty)? Easiest option would be to run a livecd of another more populous *nix flavour and see what it makes of the hardware. Needless to say, if you're so bold, you **can** always load windows and let window tell you what it is ;-) Regards, S Roberts TIA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 24 2010 13:39, Chip Camden wrote: A new notebook (ASUS K72F) has integrated wireles networking. The technical specifications are sadly lacking, so I don't know what chipset. The wired ethernet appears to use uath, but that's not working as a wlandev. Since most everything else is Intel, I figured it could be an Intel chipset, and since it supports 802.11n, I think its probably in the 6000 series. I tried all the Intel drivers that are listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_wireless_drivers#FreeBSD And none of them appeared to work. Looking a little further down, it seems that the Intel 6000 is supported by iwn on OpenBSD, but not on FreeBSD. But I could be barking up the entirely wrong tree. Can anyone shed some light here? Is there any way to query the hardware, short of opening the box (which will void the warranty)? TIA -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org More info: I found the following in the output of pciconf -vl: no...@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x10891a3b chip=0x002b168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' class = network a...@pci0:3:0:0:class=0x02 card=0x18201043 chip=0x10631969 rev=0xc0 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Attansic (Now owned by Atheros)' class = network subclass = ethernet Looks like the first entry show here is my wireless (guessing), because alc0 is my wired. Any ideas from that what driver I should be using? I've tried 'ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ath0', as well as ath1..9 and uath0..9, and I always get: ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE2: Device not configured -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 24 2010 21:55, S Roberts wrote: snip Easiest option would be to run a livecd of another more populous *nix flavour and see what it makes of the hardware. Needless to say, if you're so bold, you **can** always load windows and let window tell you what it is ;-) Regards, S Roberts The really sad thing is that notebook this came with Windows on it. Next time, I'll make sure I write down everything in Device Manager *before* I wipe Windows off the hard drive. Thanks for the response. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
Hello Chip, On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 14:00:29 -0700 Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: On Apr 24 2010 13:39, Chip Camden wrote: A new notebook (ASUS K72F) has integrated wireles networking. The technical specifications are sadly lacking, so I don't know what chipset. The wired ethernet appears to use uath, but that's not working as a wlandev. Since most everything else is Intel, I figured it could be an Intel chipset, and since it supports 802.11n, I think its probably in the 6000 series. I tried all the Intel drivers that are listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_wireless_drivers#FreeBSD And none of them appeared to work. Looking a little further down, it seems that the Intel 6000 is supported by iwn on OpenBSD, but not on FreeBSD. But I could be barking up the entirely wrong tree. Can anyone shed some light here? Is there any way to query the hardware, short of opening the box (which will void the warranty)? TIA snipped More info: I found the following in the output of pciconf -vl: no...@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x10891a3b chip=0x002b168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' class = network a...@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x18201043 chip=0x10631969 rev=0xc0 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Attansic (Now owned by Atheros)' class = network subclass = ethernet Not a whole lot there.., Does scanpci -v tell you any more details about the hardware? Regards, S Roberts Looks like the first entry show here is my wireless (guessing), because alc0 is my wired. Any ideas from that what driver I should be using? I've tried 'ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ath0', as well as ath1..9 and uath0..9, and I always get: ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE2: Device not configured ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 24 2010 22:07, S Roberts wrote: Not a whole lot there.., Does scanpci -v tell you any more details about the hardware? Regards, S Roberts I don't seem to have scanpci on my system, nor do I see it in the ports tree -- where would I find it? Thanks -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
Hello Chip, On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 15:00:34 -0700 Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: On Apr 24 2010 22:07, S Roberts wrote: Not a whole lot there.., Does scanpci -v tell you any more details about the hardware? Regards, S Roberts I don't seem to have scanpci on my system, nor do I see it in the ports tree -- where would I find it? I believe its been bundled into the libpciaccess port: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/devel/libpciaccess/ Hope that helps.., Regards, S Roberts Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
