Re: X11 configuration at 5.3 ?

2005-01-17 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-01-17 14:44, Frank Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 how is called the X11 configuration tool at 5.3 ?

It is called `xorgcfg'.  Try running as root:

# xorgcfg -textmode

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Re: X11 configuration at 5.3 ?

2005-01-17 Thread Mike Jeays
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 10:24, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 On 2005-01-17 14:44, Frank Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  how is called the X11 configuration tool at 5.3 ?
 
 It is called `xorgcfg'.  Try running as root:
 
   # xorgcfg -textmode
 
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I had a lot of difficulty when I installed 5.3, even though I have been
configuring X since FreeBSD 2.1.5.  The tools seem to have taken a step
backwards with xorg.  xorgcfg -textmode seems to result in a bad
configuration file, and in graphical mode, it is very obscure, and does
not show scroll bars on list boxes and the like.

Having to run Knoppix (which gets it right without asking any questions
at all) isn't a very satisfying solution.

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Re: X11 configuration at 5.3 ?

2005-01-17 Thread John
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 07:12:16PM -0500, Mike Jeays wrote:
 On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 10:24, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
  On 2005-01-17 14:44, Frank Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   how is called the X11 configuration tool at 5.3 ?
  
  It is called `xorgcfg'.  Try running as root:
  
  # xorgcfg -textmode
  
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 I had a lot of difficulty when I installed 5.3, even though I have been
 configuring X since FreeBSD 2.1.5.  The tools seem to have taken a step
 backwards with xorg.  xorgcfg -textmode seems to result in a bad
 configuration file, and in graphical mode, it is very obscure, and does
 not show scroll bars on list boxes and the like.
 
 Having to run Knoppix (which gets it right without asking any questions
 at all) isn't a very satisfying solution.

I agree about the tools, but...

I am having VERY good luck with the steps in section 5.4 of
the handbook:
1) X -configure
2) Test the config where it stands by starting X directly
3) Add monitor or any other information you need
4) Copy it to a standard location
Done!  Up and running! (but see the handbook pages)

For laptops, I have found it very helpful to glean the flat panel display
info from /var/logs/Xorg.0.log where it is put.

I have had very BAD luck using the config scripts.  They left me with
locked up or unreadable systems.
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Re: X11 configuration at 5.3 ?

2005-01-17 Thread Mike Jeays
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 19:21, John wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 07:12:16PM -0500, Mike Jeays wrote:
  On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 10:24, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
   On 2005-01-17 14:44, Frank Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how is called the X11 configuration tool at 5.3 ?
   
   It is called `xorgcfg'.  Try running as root:
   
 # xorgcfg -textmode
   
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  I had a lot of difficulty when I installed 5.3, even though I have been
  configuring X since FreeBSD 2.1.5.  The tools seem to have taken a step
  backwards with xorg.  xorgcfg -textmode seems to result in a bad
  configuration file, and in graphical mode, it is very obscure, and does
  not show scroll bars on list boxes and the like.
  
  Having to run Knoppix (which gets it right without asking any questions
  at all) isn't a very satisfying solution.
 
 I agree about the tools, but...
 
 I am having VERY good luck with the steps in section 5.4 of
 the handbook:
 1) X -configure
 2) Test the config where it stands by starting X directly
 3) Add monitor or any other information you need
 4) Copy it to a standard location
 Done!  Up and running! (but see the handbook pages)
 
 For laptops, I have found it very helpful to glean the flat panel display
 info from /var/logs/Xorg.0.log where it is put.
 
 I have had very BAD luck using the config scripts.  They left me with
 locked up or unreadable systems.

Yes, next time I am going to follow the handbook to the letter!  And I
shall also carefully preserve my old configuration files, just in case.

By now, I have installed several Linux distributions, and last night I
tried Freesbie 1.1 for the first time.  They all seem to get the right
answers automatically, which proves it can be done at least for some
machines.

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