Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread Chris
P.U.Kruppa wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I updated -STABLE yesterday and since my FreeBSD machine is set up as
 gateway my home network broke down completely. I rebooted into last
 weeks kernel and everything worked as usual.
 
 Has anyone else seen this or have I been unlucky with my download?
 

Did you follow the instructions outlined on how to cvsup your system?
Did you forget a step? Do them out of order.

There is a reason it's documented the way it is on the FBSD site.
Mainly - becasue it works.

I'm sure then when you review what you have done - it's going to be
something you did wrong.


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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread Per olof Ljungmark

P.U.Kruppa wrote:

Hi,

I updated -STABLE yesterday and since my FreeBSD machine is set up as 
gateway my home network broke down completely. I rebooted into last 
weeks kernel and everything worked as usual.


Has anyone else seen this or have I been unlucky with my download?


See previous messages today for an explanation.

Rgds,
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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread Roland Smith
On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 06:38:07PM +0100, P.U.Kruppa wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I updated -STABLE yesterday and since my FreeBSD machine is set 
 up as gateway my home network broke down completely. I rebooted 
 into last weeks kernel and everything worked as usual.
 
 Has anyone else seen this or have I been unlucky with my 
 download?

There was a change to if_ether.c that messed things up, but it's fixed
now. You should have either version 1.137.2.4 or 1.137.2.6 of if_ether.c

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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread P.U.Kruppa

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005, Chris wrote:


P.U.Kruppa wrote:

Hi,

I updated -STABLE yesterday and since my FreeBSD machine is set up as
gateway my home network broke down completely. I rebooted into last
weeks kernel and everything worked as usual.

Has anyone else seen this or have I been unlucky with my download?



Did you follow the instructions outlined on how to cvsup your system?
Did you forget a step? Do them out of order.

There is a reason it's documented the way it is on the FBSD site.
Mainly - becasue it works.

I'm sure then when you review what you have done - it's going to be
something you did wrong.
So you updated your system yesterday and your LAN is 
still working correctly?


Regards,

Uli.





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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread P.U.Kruppa

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005, Roland Smith wrote:


On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 06:38:07PM +0100, P.U.Kruppa wrote:

Hi,

I updated -STABLE yesterday and since my FreeBSD machine is set
up as gateway my home network broke down completely. I rebooted
into last weeks kernel and everything worked as usual.

Has anyone else seen this or have I been unlucky with my
download?


There was a change to if_ether.c that messed things up, but it's fixed
now. You should have either version 1.137.2.4 or 1.137.2.6 of if_ether.c

Thanks,

I'll try a new cvsup.

Regards,

Uli.






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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread Chris
P.U.Kruppa wrote:
 On Sat, 26 Nov 2005, Chris wrote:
 
 P.U.Kruppa wrote:

 Hi,

 I updated -STABLE yesterday and since my FreeBSD machine is set up as
 gateway my home network broke down completely. I rebooted into last
 weeks kernel and everything worked as usual.

 Has anyone else seen this or have I been unlucky with my download?


 Did you follow the instructions outlined on how to cvsup your system?
 Did you forget a step? Do them out of order.

 There is a reason it's documented the way it is on the FBSD site.
 Mainly - becasue it works.

 I'm sure then when you review what you have done - it's going to be
 something you did wrong.
 
 So you updated your system yesterday and your LAN is still working
 correctly?
 
 Regards,
 
 Uli.

Mine works just dandy

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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread Derrick MacPherson

Chris wrote:


P.U.Kruppa wrote:
 


On Sat, 26 Nov 2005, Chris wrote:

   


P.U.Kruppa wrote:

 


Hi,

I updated -STABLE yesterday and since my FreeBSD machine is set up as
gateway my home network broke down completely. I rebooted into last
weeks kernel and everything worked as usual.

Has anyone else seen this or have I been unlucky with my download?

   


Did you follow the instructions outlined on how to cvsup your system?
Did you forget a step? Do them out of order.

There is a reason it's documented the way it is on the FBSD site.
Mainly - becasue it works.

I'm sure then when you review what you have done - it's going to be
something you did wrong.
 


So you updated your system yesterday and your LAN is still working
correctly?

Regards,

Uli.
   



Mine works just dandy

 

My friend posted late last night, on a problem we are seeing, Sub: 
Problem with FreeBSD 6 -STABLE and Dell PowerEdge 2850 spewing arp requests


Pasted here:

Hi All,

I have a problem with FreeBSD 6 -Stable, i built the machine with 
-RELEASE and it's been running fine for the last few weeks.. Today i 
tryed to make the jump to -STABLE by running cvsup on the RELENG_6 
branch, running makebuildworld/kernel
which built fine without any errors.. upon the first reboot the machine 
did not come back up.. I went down to the data centre where the machine 
is COLO'd and saw the machine  did boot the new kernel.. it just has no 
network connectivity..


The Machine is a Dell PowerEdge 2850, Raid 1 volume on the Perc4i 
controller.. there are 2 Intel 1000BT adaptors.. i poked around making 
sure there were no errors in the syslog etc.. the machine comes up fine 
as mentioned...
and the only odd thing i found was 1) in the output of ps -aux there was 
over 100 IRQ's listed.. and 2) the network adapter is puking arp 
requests flooding the local network..


With no fix in sight i re-installed the source and base binary's from 
the installer which fixed the problem as the machine was back at 
-RELEASE.. it worked great.. i thought at first i may have had left over 
files in /usr/obj but from what i thought that should not affect the 
kernel build/install.. regardless i followed the handbook and removed 
the /usr/obj/usr dir and ran cvsup again to get the -STABLE source.. i 
ran make cleandir and started the process over again..
and once again after the kernel install the machine loses it's 
networking capabilities and starts spewing Arp requests...


Could anyone offer any insight?

Sorry about not having a dmesg but i dont have access to the machine at 
the moment as it's dead :P



Thanks

Rob.

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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread Chris
Derrick MacPherson wrote:
 My friend posted late last night, on a problem we are seeing, Sub:
 Problem with FreeBSD 6 -STABLE and Dell PowerEdge 2850 spewing arp requests
 
 Pasted here:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I have a problem with FreeBSD 6 -Stable, i built the machine with
 -RELEASE and it's been running fine for the last few weeks.. Today i
 tryed to make the jump to -STABLE by running cvsup on the RELENG_6
 branch, running makebuildworld/kernel
 which built fine without any errors.. upon the first reboot the machine
 did not come back up.. I went down to the data centre where the machine
 is COLO'd and saw the machine  did boot the new kernel.. it just has no
 network connectivity..
 
 The Machine is a Dell PowerEdge 2850, Raid 1 volume on the Perc4i
 controller.. there are 2 Intel 1000BT adaptors.. i poked around making
 sure there were no errors in the syslog etc.. the machine comes up fine
 as mentioned...

Yes - I can see running STABLE (or CURRENT for that matter) on a
production box makes perfect sence to me. Yes it does.

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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread Derrick MacPherson

Chris wrote:


Derrick MacPherson wrote:
 


My friend posted late last night, on a problem we are seeing, Sub:
Problem with FreeBSD 6 -STABLE and Dell PowerEdge 2850 spewing arp requests

Pasted here:

Hi All,

I have a problem with FreeBSD 6 -Stable, i built the machine with
-RELEASE and it's been running fine for the last few weeks.. Today i
tryed to make the jump to -STABLE by running cvsup on the RELENG_6
branch, running makebuildworld/kernel
which built fine without any errors.. upon the first reboot the machine
did not come back up.. I went down to the data centre where the machine
is COLO'd and saw the machine  did boot the new kernel.. it just has no
network connectivity..

The Machine is a Dell PowerEdge 2850, Raid 1 volume on the Perc4i
controller.. there are 2 Intel 1000BT adaptors.. i poked around making
sure there were no errors in the syslog etc.. the machine comes up fine
as mentioned...
   



Yes - I can see running STABLE (or CURRENT for that matter) on a
production box makes perfect sence to me. Yes it does.
 

Wow, if I could use that sarcasm to fuel my car I'd be happy. I guess we 
would be the only people to run current or stable on a production 
machine, and everyone else is using RELEASE? I guess I should have stuck 
with 4.1x considering all the initial troubles with 5.x, and not go to 6 
at all cause heck that can't be near ready considering the obvious 
ineptitude of freebsd developers, the horrible track record speaks for 
itself. Or should I run RedHat? ;)


Just wanted to contribute to the discussion in a productive manner, and 
make sure people are aware of issues as well as solve our current issue, 
but thanks for your input nonetheless. I hope it's sunny over there 
today, cause it is here. Whoomp.

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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread Chris
Derrick MacPherson wrote:
 Chris wrote:
 
 Derrick MacPherson wrote:
  

 My friend posted late last night, on a problem we are seeing, Sub:
 Problem with FreeBSD 6 -STABLE and Dell PowerEdge 2850 spewing arp
 requests

 Pasted here:

 Hi All,

 I have a problem with FreeBSD 6 -Stable, i built the machine with
 -RELEASE and it's been running fine for the last few weeks.. Today i
 tryed to make the jump to -STABLE by running cvsup on the RELENG_6
 branch, running makebuildworld/kernel
 which built fine without any errors.. upon the first reboot the machine
 did not come back up.. I went down to the data centre where the machine
 is COLO'd and saw the machine  did boot the new kernel.. it just has no
 network connectivity..

 The Machine is a Dell PowerEdge 2850, Raid 1 volume on the Perc4i
 controller.. there are 2 Intel 1000BT adaptors.. i poked around making
 sure there were no errors in the syslog etc.. the machine comes up fine
 as mentioned...
   


 Yes - I can see running STABLE (or CURRENT for that matter) on a
 production box makes perfect sence to me. Yes it does.
  

 Wow, if I could use that sarcasm to fuel my car I'd be happy. I guess we
 would be the only people to run current or stable on a production
 machine, and everyone else is using RELEASE? I guess I should have stuck
 with 4.1x considering all the initial troubles with 5.x, and not go to 6
 at all cause heck that can't be near ready considering the obvious
 ineptitude of freebsd developers, the horrible track record speaks for
 itself. Or should I run RedHat? ;)
 
 Just wanted to contribute to the discussion in a productive manner, and
 make sure people are aware of issues as well as solve our current issue,
 but thanks for your input nonetheless. I hope it's sunny over there
 today, cause it is here. Whoomp.

Indeed it is - perhaps a bit more then there.

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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread Rob Connon (Info)

Chris wrote:


Derrick MacPherson wrote:
 


My friend posted late last night, on a problem we are seeing, Sub:
Problem with FreeBSD 6 -STABLE and Dell PowerEdge 2850 spewing arp requests

Pasted here:

Hi All,

I have a problem with FreeBSD 6 -Stable, i built the machine with
-RELEASE and it's been running fine for the last few weeks.. Today i
tryed to make the jump to -STABLE by running cvsup on the RELENG_6
branch, running makebuildworld/kernel
which built fine without any errors.. upon the first reboot the machine
did not come back up.. I went down to the data centre where the machine
is COLO'd and saw the machine  did boot the new kernel.. it just has no
network connectivity..

The Machine is a Dell PowerEdge 2850, Raid 1 volume on the Perc4i
controller.. there are 2 Intel 1000BT adaptors.. i poked around making
sure there were no errors in the syslog etc.. the machine comes up fine
as mentioned...
   



Yes - I can see running STABLE (or CURRENT for that matter) on a
production box makes perfect sence to me. Yes it does.

 

Who said anything about a production box? just because the machine is 
sitting in a COLO dont mean it's in production.. Why not offer some 
valued input instead of smart ass comments?
you seem like the type of person most people ignore when they hear you 
open your mouth, but it's such a nice day i thought i would respond..


Happy Thanks Giving!!

And for the rest of you thanks for all the help!

Rob




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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread matt .
Wow I must be missing something here on a very basic, fundamental level.

I run FreeBSD-RELEASE on a production box.  I have my reservations but it
was the only release that supported my RAID controller, so I had no choice
(or buy a $300 raid card that was supported).  Anyway it works fine so far
(knock heavily and repeatedly on huge pieces of wood).

I've read the FreeBSD notes regarding the differences between STABLE,
CURRENT and RELEASE.  So uh, what is supposed to be run on a production
box?  In plain sight on the FreeBSD site it says Latest production release
which is 6.0-RELEASE...are we only supposed to run RELEASE on production
systems or are we supposed to run STABLE?  Seems to me it's
counter-intuitive to call something STABLE and not have it meant for
production.  My head hurts.

matt

On 11/26/05, Rob Connon (Info) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Chris wrote:

 Derrick MacPherson wrote:
 
 
 My friend posted late last night, on a problem we are seeing, Sub:
 Problem with FreeBSD 6 -STABLE and Dell PowerEdge 2850 spewing arp
 requests
 
 Pasted here:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I have a problem with FreeBSD 6 -Stable, i built the machine with
 -RELEASE and it's been running fine for the last few weeks.. Today i
 tryed to make the jump to -STABLE by running cvsup on the RELENG_6
 branch, running makebuildworld/kernel
 which built fine without any errors.. upon the first reboot the machine
 did not come back up.. I went down to the data centre where the machine
 is COLO'd and saw the machine  did boot the new kernel.. it just has no
 network connectivity..
 
 The Machine is a Dell PowerEdge 2850, Raid 1 volume on the Perc4i
 controller.. there are 2 Intel 1000BT adaptors.. i poked around making
 sure there were no errors in the syslog etc.. the machine comes up fine
 as mentioned...
 
 
 
 Yes - I can see running STABLE (or CURRENT for that matter) on a
 production box makes perfect sence to me. Yes it does.
 
 
 
 Who said anything about a production box? just because the machine is
 sitting in a COLO dont mean it's in production.. Why not offer some
 valued input instead of smart ass comments?
 you seem like the type of person most people ignore when they hear you
 open your mouth, but it's such a nice day i thought i would respond..

 Happy Thanks Giving!!

 And for the rest of you thanks for all the help!

 Rob





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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread J.D. Bronson

At 02:45 PM 11/26/2005, matt . wrote:

Wow I must be missing something here on a very basic, fundamental level.

I run FreeBSD-RELEASE on a production box.  I have my reservations but it
was the only release that supported my RAID controller, so I had no choice
(or buy a $300 raid card that was supported).  Anyway it works fine so far
(knock heavily and repeatedly on huge pieces of wood).

I've read the FreeBSD notes regarding the differences between STABLE,
CURRENT and RELEASE.  So uh, what is supposed to be run on a production
box?  In plain sight on the FreeBSD site it says Latest production release
which is 6.0-RELEASE...are we only supposed to run RELEASE on production
systems or are we supposed to run STABLE?  Seems to me it's
counter-intuitive to call something STABLE and not have it meant for
production.  My head hurts.

matt


I couldnt agree more with this comment. My head hurt after
trying to figure this out as well..

Yea. The information seems to contradict itself.
The only thing I have been able to 100% figure out is:

#*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6_0
- release branch/security fixes only
Results in: 6.0-RELEASE

#*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6
- 6.0 + changes will eventually be 6.1
Results in: 6.0-STABLE

It is perhaps a bit easier in OpenBSD land. -STABLE means only 
bugfixes and important patches. In FreeBSD - this seems not the case?


-JD


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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread Chris
J.D. Bronson wrote:
 At 02:45 PM 11/26/2005, matt . wrote:
 
 Wow I must be missing something here on a very basic, fundamental level.

 I run FreeBSD-RELEASE on a production box.  I have my reservations but it
 was the only release that supported my RAID controller, so I had no
 choice
 (or buy a $300 raid card that was supported).  Anyway it works fine so
 far
 (knock heavily and repeatedly on huge pieces of wood).

 I've read the FreeBSD notes regarding the differences between STABLE,
 CURRENT and RELEASE.  So uh, what is supposed to be run on a production
 box?  In plain sight on the FreeBSD site it says Latest production
 release
 which is 6.0-RELEASE...are we only supposed to run RELEASE on production
 systems or are we supposed to run STABLE?  Seems to me it's
 counter-intuitive to call something STABLE and not have it meant for
 production.  My head hurts.

 matt
 
 
 I couldnt agree more with this comment. My head hurt after
 trying to figure this out as well..
 
 Yea. The information seems to contradict itself.
 The only thing I have been able to 100% figure out is:
 
 #*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6_0
 - release branch/security fixes only
 Results in: 6.0-RELEASE
 
 #*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6
 - 6.0 + changes will eventually be 6.1
 Results in: 6.0-STABLE
 
 It is perhaps a bit easier in OpenBSD land. -STABLE means only bugfixes
 and important patches. In FreeBSD - this seems not the case?
 
 -JD

STABLE is Not what you think. Its a work in progress. Towards the next
release. Not quite CURRENT, but not RELEASE.

RELEASE IS what you would think STABLE might be. The 6_0 tag follows all
security patches etc.

STABLE follows the work as it's being don within the banch. And what
will eventually be the next RELEASE

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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread Chris
J.D. Bronson wrote:
 At 02:45 PM 11/26/2005, matt . wrote:
 
 Wow I must be missing something here on a very basic, fundamental level.

 I run FreeBSD-RELEASE on a production box.  I have my reservations but it
 was the only release that supported my RAID controller, so I had no
 choice
 (or buy a $300 raid card that was supported).  Anyway it works fine so
 far
 (knock heavily and repeatedly on huge pieces of wood).

 I've read the FreeBSD notes regarding the differences between STABLE,
 CURRENT and RELEASE.  So uh, what is supposed to be run on a production
 box?  In plain sight on the FreeBSD site it says Latest production
 release
 which is 6.0-RELEASE...are we only supposed to run RELEASE on production
 systems or are we supposed to run STABLE?  Seems to me it's
 counter-intuitive to call something STABLE and not have it meant for
 production.  My head hurts.

 matt
 
 
 I couldnt agree more with this comment. My head hurt after
 trying to figure this out as well..
 
 Yea. The information seems to contradict itself.
 The only thing I have been able to 100% figure out is:
 
 #*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6_0
 - release branch/security fixes only
 Results in: 6.0-RELEASE
 
 #*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6
 - 6.0 + changes will eventually be 6.1
 Results in: 6.0-STABLE
 
 It is perhaps a bit easier in OpenBSD land. -STABLE means only bugfixes
 and important patches. In FreeBSD - this seems not the case?
 
 -JD
 
 
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And here once again, the website tells us:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html#STABLE

Good Lord, it's a wunnerful thing to read.

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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread RW
On Saturday 26 November 2005 18:34, Derrick MacPherson wrote:

 Wow, if I could use that sarcasm to fuel my car I'd be happy. I guess we
 would be the only people to run current or stable on a production
 machine, and everyone else is using RELEASE? I guess I should have stuck
 with 4.1x considering all the initial troubles with 5.x, and not go to 6
 at all cause 

Those of us who are content to drive the latest model, should be gratefull 
that there are people who volunteer to be crash-test dummies.
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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread matt .
FreeBSD should really consider changing the name of their branch name STABLE
to DEV or PRE-RELEASE, since it clearly states on freebsd.org the STABLE
branch is for those wishing to track and contribute to the development
process of the next FreeBSD RELEASE.  It makes sense to leave RELEASE the
way it is, since RELEASE branches are meant exactly for how their namesake
states.   FreeBSD-CURRENT pretty much self-explains what it's meant for,
which is the latest, bleeding edge code, which once tested is added to
STABLE...or wait, then maybe CURRENT should be called DEV?  ahhh!!  :)

matt

On 11/26/05, J.D. Bronson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 I couldnt agree more with this comment. My head hurt after
 trying to figure this out as well..

 Yea. The information seems to contradict itself.
 The only thing I have been able to 100% figure out is:

 #*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6_0
 - release branch/security fixes only
 Results in: 6.0-RELEASE

 #*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6
 - 6.0 + changes will eventually be 6.1
 Results in: 6.0-STABLE

 It is perhaps a bit easier in OpenBSD land. -STABLE means only
 bugfixes and important patches. In FreeBSD - this seems not the case?

 -JD



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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread Rob Connon (Info)



I couldnt agree more with this comment. My head hurt after
trying to figure this out as well..

Yea. The information seems to contradict itself.
The only thing I have been able to 100% figure out is:

#*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6_0
- release branch/security fixes only
Results in: 6.0-RELEASE

#*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6
- 6.0 + changes will eventually be 6.1
Results in: 6.0-STABLE

It is perhaps a bit easier in OpenBSD land. -STABLE means only 
bugfixes and important patches. In FreeBSD - this seems not the case?


-JD


I agree, i think that was my mistake.. i come from using OpenBSD and 
*thought* -STABLE meant RELEASE+ security fixes.. Which is MY fault for 
not paying closer attention to the docs..

oh well i am now informed.

-rob


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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread P.U.Kruppa

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005, Roland Smith wrote:


On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 06:38:07PM +0100, P.U.Kruppa wrote:

Hi,

I updated -STABLE yesterday and since my FreeBSD machine is set
up as gateway my home network broke down completely. I rebooted
into last weeks kernel and everything worked as usual.

Has anyone else seen this or have I been unlucky with my
download?


There was a change to if_ether.c that messed things up, but it's fixed
now. You should have either version 1.137.2.4 or 1.137.2.6 of if_ether.c

Roland
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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread P.U.Kruppa

Hey,

what are you all doing on my thread? :-)

1) As Roland Smith pointed out (see below) - there was a bug in
   -STABLE sources, which has been repaired in the meantime.
2) All in all -STABLE is great, this must have been the first
   major issue I ran into during the last two or three years.

Sorry for top posting,

Uli.

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005, Roland Smith wrote:


On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 06:38:07PM +0100, P.U.Kruppa wrote:

Hi,

I updated -STABLE yesterday and since my FreeBSD machine is set
up as gateway my home network broke down completely. I rebooted
into last weeks kernel and everything worked as usual.

Has anyone else seen this or have I been unlucky with my
download?


There was a change to if_ether.c that messed things up, but it's fixed
now. You should have either version 1.137.2.4 or 1.137.2.6 of if_ether.c




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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-11-26 14:52, J.D. Bronson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 02:45 PM 11/26/2005, matt . wrote:
 Wow I must be missing something here on a very basic, fundamental
 level.

 I run FreeBSD-RELEASE on a production box.  I have my reservations
 but it was the only release that supported my RAID controller, so I
 had no choice (or buy a $300 raid card that was supported).  Anyway
 it works fine so far (knock heavily and repeatedly on huge pieces of
 wood).

 I've read the FreeBSD notes regarding the differences between STABLE,
 CURRENT and RELEASE.  So uh, what is supposed to be run on a
 production box?  In plain sight on the FreeBSD site it says Latest
 production release which is 6.0-RELEASE...are we only supposed to
 run RELEASE on production systems or are we supposed to run STABLE?
 Seems to me it's counter-intuitive to call something STABLE and not
 have it meant for production.  My head hurts.

 I couldnt agree more with this comment. My head hurt after
 trying to figure this out as well..

 Yea. The information seems to contradict itself.
 The only thing I have been able to 100% figure out is:

 #*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6_0
 - release branch/security fixes only
 Results in: 6.0-RELEASE

 #*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6
 - 6.0 + changes will eventually be 6.1
 Results in: 6.0-STABLE

 It is perhaps a bit easier in OpenBSD land. -STABLE means only
 bugfixes and important patches. In FreeBSD - this seems not the case?

That's RELENG_6_0 here.  We call these the security branches.

The -STABLE branch is a more actively maintained branch, out of which
the future releases of 6.1-RELEASE, 6.2-RELEASE, ... will be made.

A lot of this is explained in ``Choosing the FreeBSD Version That Is
Right For You'', at

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/version-guide/

I hope this helps a bit,

Giorgos

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