Re: can't find an internal flash reader that doesn't crash 7.1
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Steve Franks wrote: I have personally found very few card readers that reliably detect a card, then allow you to mount and use it on 7.1 without a freeze, or a crash on mount or *after* or *during* unmount (I'm not a reformed ubuntu user, I don't just rip the card out and expect it to work). More typically, however, they just never show a card inserted. My external Sandisk Extreme USB 2.0 reader is a little like that. I just leave it disconnected. Load a card and then plug the USB cable into the reader and it works fine. Recent hal and (xfce) Thunar seem a little confused, so now when it automounts the card and pops up a Thunar window, it also pops up windows for /, /var, /tmp, and /usr. Haven't had time to figure out what's going on there, yet. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: can't find an internal flash reader that doesn't crash 7.1
> i just bought a store-brand one at Best Buy at the local shop, internal 3.5" > USB dongle that plugs into the motherboard header. I think it's a 7-in-1 > (or is it up to 14-in-1???) > > Works well, but the devfs has a little trick that if you slip in a USB drive > after bootup, you have to write 0 bytes to the devname to have it recognize > slices and partitions... might be easier to restart devfs or something.. Ok, check, I get it - "be patient, and we're fixing the usb stack, already". I was just looking for a solution for *this* week. I've ran current before, but given all the traffic and arguing over usb2 lately, I'm sure not going to install it just to get the card reader going on my *work* desktop, I might as well take a couple days off. Again, not being critical, I just don't like the answers that say, well, obviously, everyone has 10 hours to tweak their system instead of spending $9 on a new reader that works with the old stack. Buying hardware that works has always been a legitimate option - just look at all the people asking about laptops, motherboards, and even NICs. I have personally found very few card readers that reliably detect a card, then allow you to mount and use it on 7.1 without a freeze, or a crash on mount or *after* or *during* unmount (I'm not a reformed ubuntu user, I don't just rip the card out and expect it to work). More typically, however, they just never show a card inserted. I'm going to have to try the "write 0 bytes" trick mentioned, maybe that looks like it will take me from 75% dead readers to 75% working readers. Several of my working readers under 6.3 quit under 7.x. The only brand that I've found to be a slam dunk is "i-rocks" and they don't make an internal. The guys working on usb2 should get a donation of about 50 cases of beer a piece when this is over - anyone want to start a pool? Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: can't find an internal flash reader that doesn't crash 7.1
On Thursday 26 February 2009 14:04:06 Steve Franks wrote: > I've tried several. I have a need of this - anyone have one that > works with our USB stack? If it crashes 7.1 because you didn't unmount before unplugging, for the time being that's a given. There's work in progress to change all the kernel locks involving mounting in general, so that mounted devices can be unplugged without crashes, but this will take some time. Maybe 7.x, more likely 8.x. If it crashes when being plugged in, then you really had a bad buy streak, since we use several different brands, price ranges and hardware interfaces including sdmmc(4). Only crashes we experience (livelocks actually) are with Kodak cameras, directly into USB. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: can't find an internal flash reader that doesn't crash 7.1
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Steve Franks wrote: > I've tried several. I have a need of this - anyone have one that > works with our USB stack? You might want to give the usb4bsd stack a try on the 7.x series: http://www.selasky.org/hans_petter/usb4bsd/ I've seen much better compatibility and stability from USB-attached storage media using this USB stack compared to the stock 7.x USB. Matt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: can't find an internal flash reader that doesn't crash 7.1
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Steve Franks wrote: > I've tried several. I have a need of this - anyone have one that > works with our USB stack? > > Thanks, > Steve i just bought a store-brand one at Best Buy at the local shop, internal 3.5" USB dongle that plugs into the motherboard header. I think it's a 7-in-1 (or is it up to 14-in-1???) Works well, but the devfs has a little trick that if you slip in a USB drive after bootup, you have to write 0 bytes to the devname to have it recognize slices and partitions... might be easier to restart devfs or something.. No probs with it, but I don't heavily use it. --TJ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: can't find an internal flash reader that doesn't crash 7.1
Steve Franks wrote: I've tried several. I have a need of this - anyone have one that works with our USB stack? Thanks, Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" If you really want a meaningful reply them you have to describe your problem in some detail. NO one on this list has ESP to read your mind. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"