Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 72, Issue 2

2004-08-10 Thread Matthew Seaman
From: fbsd_user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 05:15:45PM -0400, Ara Avvali wrote:

 5.3 stable release tentatively scheduled for Oct 3

 Is this considered to be stable? I mean as stable as 4.10?

The 5-STABLE branch is intended to be considered stable; that is
suitable for use as a production server.  The FreeBSD project will
certainly be doing its utmost between now and October to make that
into a reality.  In the past the FreeBSD project has generally
delivered on that promise, but it can take a few releases from the new
stable branch before everything is bedded down properly.

Now, the jump between 4.x and 5.x in terms of the changes made to the
system is much larger than previous major version bumps, and the
length of time between the creation of 5-CURRENT and 5-STABLE has been
correspondingly longer.  That all means that there's more to go wrong,
potentially with this upgrade.

It is inevitable that 5.x will have bugs and it will take some more
development beyond the creation of 5-STABLE to put the desired degree
of polish on it.  That's why the project has taken a range of new
steps in order to smooth over the transition.  Some of those steps
you've seen already -- the whole series of Technology Preview
releases is aimed at getting 5.x out there on a reasonably large
selection of machines so that as much debugging as possible happens
before the official STABLE release.

The other measure is extended suppport for the 4-STABLE branch, or
rather 4.x-RELEASE derived from it.  4.11-RELEASE will presumably be
the last full scale release from the 4.x branch.  That means that as
well as the extended support for 4.8-RELEASE announced some months
ago, there will be the normal 1 year's support for 4.11 that should
last up to 2005/2006.

Only the most conservative of FreeBSD users may well choose to stick
with 4.x for much longer.  Most people, I think, should be able to
upgrade to 5.x without too many problems.

After 4.11-RELEASE presumably the project will drop back to normal,
making 3 releases a year from the -STABLE branch, instead of the 6 or
more releases (from STABLE and CURRENT) there have been recently.
Until the 6-CURRENT branch gets good enough for the 6.x technology
preview releases...

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 72, Issue 2

2004-08-09 Thread Ara Avvali
Is this considered to be stable? I mean as stable as 4.10?
Message: 13
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 11:27:04 -0400
From: fbsd_user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 5.3 stable release tentatively scheduled for Oct 3
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5.3 stable release tentatively scheduled for Oct 3
The FreeBSD Release Engineering team has published the schedule for
the FreeBSD 5.3 stable release. It spans 7 weeks and includes weekly
BETA/RC snapshots for testing. The theme for this release is
testing testing testing! since it is going to be the first
5-STABLE release. The stable 5.3-RELEASE date is tentatively
scheduled for Oct 3 if no show stopper problems arise like last
time.
See   http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/schedule.html
Release 5.3-BETA1 scheduled for Aug 20 at which time the 5.3-BETA1
tier-1 platform images are released and uploaded to
ftp-master.FreeBSD.org server. This is the start of the 7 weekly
install process and disk performance testing cycles.
People needed to install from downloaded iso image from
ftp-master.FreeBSD.org to do install process testing to find and
report install config problems. This is your opportunity to beat on
the cdrom install process to verify all the previous 5.2.1 install
problems with disk geometry have been corrected. Only cdrom installs
default to using the new UFS2 file access method on the disk storage
system, so heavy disk i/o users are also needed to beat on UFS2 disk
drives to verify the system freeze up problems have been fixed.
Please submit your bug reports using send-pr command as soon as you
find problems so they can be address and fixed by the next weekly
BETA/RC cycle.
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