Re: off topic: unmanageable switch?
Thanks everybody for the info! I'll probably go with the TP-Links. Nikos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: off topic: unmanageable switch?
David N wrote: 2009/6/20 Nikos Vassiliadis nvass9...@gmx.com: Jerry B. Altzman wrote: Do you require Gigabit ethernet or no? That, I don't know yet... but given that they want to build a solid infrastructure that will be worth of using for the years to come, most probably yes. Environmental conditions will be normal, everything will be indoor. And I *think* the power levels will be normal as well (Wojciech mentioned that D-Links have been sensitive to power spikes). I have found that D-Link are quite cheap and somebody on the list suggested them. In that price range TP-LINK is also a choice. Anybody advises against TP-LINK? Thanks a bunch for your answers, Nikos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org We've deployed a few DLink and Linksys unmanaged switches and are working fine. The only issue with the DLink ones are the external power supply (4-8 port desktop switches), they are pretty flakey, usually need a replacement within a few months of operations, but after buying a replacement from the radio shack/dick smith/jay car..., they're usually fine. Linksys switches have a limited lifetime warranty (whatever that means) on the gigabit 24 port switches. DLink have about 3 to 5 years depending. TP Link and Repotec I'm unsure of, the website doesn't list anything and neither does my supplier. My guess would be 1 year. The TP Link ones are pretty much no frills, I have a 8 port 10/100 and can max it out without and problems. Thanks David, the warranty factor was not on my table until you mentioned it. Nikos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: off topic: unmanageable switch?
I have found that D-Link are quite cheap and somebody on the list suggested them. In that price range TP-LINK is also a choice. Anybody advises against TP-LINK? TP-Link is OK and is really cheap (D-Link is not). Buy it. I use lots of pure-100 and 100+1000 ones ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: off topic: unmanageable switch?
spikes). I have found that D-Link are quite cheap and somebody on the list suggested them. In that price range TP-LINK is also a choice. Anybody advises against TP-LINK? i advise for. have a lot of this cheap things, works fine. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: off topic: unmanageable switch?
Wojciech Puchar wrote: spikes). I have found that D-Link are quite cheap and somebody on the list suggested them. In that price range TP-LINK is also a choice. Anybody advises against TP-LINK? i advise for. have a lot of this cheap things, works fine. 1 more vote for TP-Link - cheapest on the market ! Peter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: off topic: unmanageable switch?
A vote for C-net devices. Pretty cheap and I can't recall any troubles caused by 'em. -- Best regards, Jeff | Nobody wants to say how this works. | | Maybe nobody knows ... | | Xorg.conf(5)| ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: off topic: unmanageable switch?
Nikos, My list of priorities, with 1 being the most important. 1. Price 2. Stability As the price is the most important for you, buy any cheap switch. Now I have had satisfaction with Dlink and Compex, maybe not among the cheapest, but still cheap. I have had some working for 6 or 7 years non stop. I would not use them as core switch, but as satellite switches they do OK. 3. No smart features 4. STP support STP is definitely a smart feature, it comes with higher models only. Bests, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: off topic: unmanageable switch?
On Fri,06/19/09 [17:31:49], Olivier Nicole wrote: Nikos, My list of priorities, with 1 being the most important. 1. Price 2. Stability As the price is the most important for you, buy any cheap switch. Now I have had satisfaction with Dlink and Compex, maybe not among the cheapest, but still cheap. I have had some working for 6 or 7 years non stop. I would not use them as core switch, but as satellite switches they do OK. 3. No smart features 4. STP support STP is definitely a smart feature, it comes with higher models only. Bests, Olivier I'd choose 3com. Their low-end unmanaged models are pretty cheap as well as some smarter officeconnect models. -- Best regards, Jeff | Nobody wants to say how this works. | | Maybe nobody knows ... | | Xorg.conf(5)| ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: off topic: unmanageable switch?
This has nothing to do with FreeBSD. I have to buy 3-4 24/16 port ethernet switches for a school. Could you recommend a brand/model? I don't know if such recommendations should be done off list? no idea about 4, but in my practice the cheapest ones are really good. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: off topic: unmanageable switch?
Now I have had satisfaction with Dlink and Compex, maybe not among the cheapest, but still cheap. I have had some working for 6 or 7 years You are happy because you are using it with good power supply, probably UPS. Both (and D-Link mostly) are completely unprotected for even minor power spikes. None of them survived more than half a year when i used it of total over 10. For pure 100Mbps switches, Asus Giga-X is the best in that respect. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: off topic: unmanageable switch?
Olivier I'd choose 3com. Their low-end unmanaged models are pretty cheap as well as some smarter officeconnect models. They are not cheap ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: off topic: unmanageable switch?
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 06:22, Nikos Vassiliadis nvass9...@gmx.com wrote: My list of priorities, with 1 being the most important. 1. Price 2. Stability 3. No smart features OK, this looks like a .1Q frame, let's drop it. This MAC address is active on many ports, let's drop it. 4. STP support Would be nice, just to prevent cabling errors. There is not gonna be deliberate use of duplicate links between the switches to increase availability. Do you require Gigabit ethernet or no? I've had very good experience with Netgear 24-port and 16-port rack mount switches (not the desktop consumer models -- although they too have worked well for me). They have somewhat more robust power supplies than the standard wall-attach transformers, and the FastEthernet models can be had for VERY cheap. (I bought a 24-port model a few years back for just about USD 100.) I've had Netgear switches run without a problem for *years*. Their managed switches, on the other hand, are a nightmare, and I wouldn't use them again if I had the choice. Nikos //jbaltz -- jerry b. altzmanjba...@gmail.com www.jbaltz.com foo mane padme hum ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: off topic: unmanageable switch?
Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: Hi, This has nothing to do with FreeBSD. I have to buy 3-4 24/16 port ethernet switches for a school. Could you recommend a brand/model? I don't know if such recommendations should be done off list? Netgear - really cheap, no problems with them if inside(normal humidity and temperature). Peter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: off topic: unmanageable switch?
Linksys, DLink, etc. Cheap is cheap - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: Nikos Vassiliadis nvass9...@gmx.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Fri Jun 19 09:45:22 2009 Subject: Re: off topic: unmanageable switch? Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: Hi, This has nothing to do with FreeBSD. I have to buy 3-4 24/16 port ethernet switches for a school. Could you recommend a brand/model? I don't know if such recommendations should be done off list? Netgear - really cheap, no problems with them if inside(normal humidity and temperature). Peter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: off topic: unmanageable switch?
Jerry B. Altzman wrote: Do you require Gigabit ethernet or no? That, I don't know yet... but given that they want to build a solid infrastructure that will be worth of using for the years to come, most probably yes. Environmental conditions will be normal, everything will be indoor. And I *think* the power levels will be normal as well (Wojciech mentioned that D-Links have been sensitive to power spikes). I have found that D-Link are quite cheap and somebody on the list suggested them. In that price range TP-LINK is also a choice. Anybody advises against TP-LINK? Thanks a bunch for your answers, Nikos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: off topic: unmanageable switch?
2009/6/20 Nikos Vassiliadis nvass9...@gmx.com: Jerry B. Altzman wrote: Do you require Gigabit ethernet or no? That, I don't know yet... but given that they want to build a solid infrastructure that will be worth of using for the years to come, most probably yes. Environmental conditions will be normal, everything will be indoor. And I *think* the power levels will be normal as well (Wojciech mentioned that D-Links have been sensitive to power spikes). I have found that D-Link are quite cheap and somebody on the list suggested them. In that price range TP-LINK is also a choice. Anybody advises against TP-LINK? Thanks a bunch for your answers, Nikos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org We've deployed a few DLink and Linksys unmanaged switches and are working fine. The only issue with the DLink ones are the external power supply (4-8 port desktop switches), they are pretty flakey, usually need a replacement within a few months of operations, but after buying a replacement from the radio shack/dick smith/jay car..., they're usually fine. Linksys switches have a limited lifetime warranty (whatever that means) on the gigabit 24 port switches. DLink have about 3 to 5 years depending. TP Link and Repotec I'm unsure of, the website doesn't list anything and neither does my supplier. My guess would be 1 year. The TP Link ones are pretty much no frills, I have a 8 port 10/100 and can max it out without and problems. Regards David N ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: off topic: unmanageable switch?
Linksys, DLink, etc. Cheap is cheap You gave examples of WORST CRAP, and not really cheap. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
