Re: Recommendation on GPS time source for FreeBSD

2010-01-31 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Per olof Ljungmark p...@intersonic.se wrote:

 Does anyone have a recommendation on a good GPS receiver/board for use 
 with NTP/FreeBSD to create a stratum 1 public time server?

Anything with a PPS output.  The Garmin GPS 18 LVC is probably the
cheapest option.

 Preferably something above the Garmin puck level but not ridiculously 
 expensive either...

One of the u-blox evaluation kits (e.g. EVK-5T).
http://www.u-blox.com/

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Re: Re : Recommendation on GPS time source for FreeBSD

2010-01-31 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Alexandre L. axel...@ymail.com wrote:

 You can see here : http://www.meinberg.de/english/

Meinberg is one of those companies that don't even put price
information on the web site:  If you have to ask, you can't afford
it.

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Re: Re : Recommendation on GPS time source for FreeBSD

2010-01-31 Thread dalescott
With a clear view of the sky, pretty much any receiver but the lowest grade 
(havIng a 1pps output) should behave about the same. Ceramic patch antennas 
should have a decent ground plane. If the antenna is small (e.g. most puck 
antenna/receivers) put in on a 10in or 12in round  metal disk (also blocks 
low-elevation reflected signals). 

Getting a lot better may involve considerable testing and characterization 
(i.e. $$'s), including site survey (line of sight obstacles, sources of 
multipath...), propagation/group delay in antenna/rf system, hardware involved 
in generating 1pps (slew rates...), sw tracking loop stability under various 
conditions (low signal level, addIng or dropping a satellite from the loop, 
...). 

Dale

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-Original Message-
From: na...@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:29:23 
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Re : Recommendation on GPS time source for FreeBSD

Alexandre L. axel...@ymail.com wrote:

 You can see here : http://www.meinberg.de/english/

Meinberg is one of those companies that don't even put price
information on the web site:  If you have to ask, you can't afford
it.

-- 
Christian naddy Weisgerber  na...@mips.inka.de

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Re: Recommendation on GPS time source for FreeBSD

2010-01-31 Thread Per olof Ljungmark

Christian Weisgerber wrote:

Per olof Ljungmark p...@intersonic.se wrote:

Does anyone have a recommendation on a good GPS receiver/board for use 
with NTP/FreeBSD to create a stratum 1 public time server?


Anything with a PPS output.  The Garmin GPS 18 LVC is probably the
cheapest option.

Preferably something above the Garmin puck level but not ridiculously 
expensive either...


One of the u-blox evaluation kits (e.g. EVK-5T).
http://www.u-blox.com/



There are many more factors involved than just getting a decent NMEA and 
PPS signal. We are in a building with obscured view of the sky (antenna 
must be on roof or at least up the wall), the server room is in the 
basement (long cable runs).


Perhaps a Motorola ONCORE off e-bay + a proper antenna could be a way of 
getting started, I do realise that professional timekeeping equipment is 
expensive, just as any other high quality product made in small quantities.


Thanks,
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Re : Recommendation on GPS time source for FreeBSD

2010-01-30 Thread Alexandre L.
You can see here : http://www.meinberg.de/english/
I don't use their products (I don't know about the quality products), I just 
use their NTP package software for Windows.

--- En date de : Sam 30.1.10, Per olof Ljungmark p...@intersonic.se a écrit :

 De: Per olof Ljungmark p...@intersonic.se
 Objet: Recommendation on GPS time source for FreeBSD
 À: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Samedi 30 Janvier 2010, 9h51
 Hi all,
 
 Does anyone have a recommendation on a good GPS
 receiver/board for use with NTP/FreeBSD to create a stratum
 1 public time server?
 
 Preferably something above the Garmin puck level but not
 ridiculously expensive either...
 
 Thanks for any input,
 
 --
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Re: Recommendation on GPS time source for FreeBSD

2010-01-30 Thread David Kelly


On Jan 30, 2010, at 3:51 AM, Per olof Ljungmark wrote:


Hi all,

Does anyone have a recommendation on a good GPS receiver/board for  
use with NTP/FreeBSD to create a stratum 1 public time server?


Preferably something above the Garmin puck level but not  
ridiculously expensive either...



Why would you want something more than the Garmin puck?

I have a couple of instrumentation grade GPS's at work but their  
primary justification is to generate IRIG time to sync a multitude of  
instruments which expect a time signal in IRIG format.


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