Re: Realtek 8111B LAN Chipset
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 09:35:47PM -0500, Greg Mars wrote: NetOpsCenter wrote: Greg Mars wrote: I'm buying parts for a computer and want to make sure that the core components are as freebsd friendly as possible. So far, I've decided on a core 2 quad q6600 and I'm choosing the motherboard now. However it seems many of the popular motherboards have Realtek ALC888 as built-in audio and Realtek 8111B as built-in LAN. I read at: http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/CURRENT/hardware/i386/article.html that the sound should work but I couldn't find any info on the LAN. Does anyone on the list have any experience with it? By the way, I'm going to run FreeBSD 7. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aloha, Realtek 8169 is a 1000 M and works on 7.* and 8.* I think 8111 maybe old 100M ? Are you sure about the Realtek model #? ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol Hi, If you click on the motherboard specifications link below, you'll see where they list the LAN chipset as Realtek 8111B http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186133 This seems to be the page for the chip on Realtek's site: http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/productsView.aspx?Langid=1PFid=5Level=5Conn=4ProdID=11 Realtek has two devices for Gbit PCI: the 8169 and the reduced 8110. They are both more or less the same - likely even the same chip inside, but the later has pins reduced. AFAIK the later can't have an external PHY, which you can't have anyway if there is neither a connector or PHY itself connected on the board. The 8168 is the successor for PCI express, with the 8111 being the new reduced variant. Both PCIe are detected but didn't run stable with our re(4), but it is said that the latest driver fixes this and also adds a good speed improvement. -- B.Walterhttp://www.bwct.de http://www.fizon.de [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Realtek 8111B LAN Chipset
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008, Greg Mars wrote: I'm buying parts for a computer and want to make sure that the core components are as freebsd friendly as possible. So far, I've decided on a core 2 quad q6600 and I'm choosing the motherboard now. Me2 (unless I wait for a newer generation of CPUs). However it seems many of the popular motherboards have Realtek ALC888 as built-in audio and Realtek 8111B as built-in LAN. I read at: http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/CURRENT/hardware/i386/article.html that the sound should work but I couldn't find any info on the LAN. Does anyone on the list have any experience with it? By the way, I'm going to run FreeBSD 7. I also want a cheap PCI/e NIC that works well with drivers back to FreeBSD-4 like my plain PCI bge and em NICs do. I doubt that any popular motherboard will have anything better than a cheap PCI/e NIC. Bruce ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Realtek 8111B LAN Chipset
Bruce Evans wrote: I also want a cheap PCI/e NIC that works well with drivers back to FreeBSD-4 like my plain PCI bge and em NICs do. I doubt that any popular motherboard will have anything better than a cheap PCI/e NIC. Finding a modern main board of which the builtin NIC works with 4.X seems like a tall order to me, perhaps it would be easier to install a seperate NIC. With some luck you might be able to pick up a decent used NIC from a discarded Pentium(2) or something. I've been using a 3Com 3c509 combo card for years. In 3.X the driver was still buggy, but it worked great with 4.X, particularly the later ones, say, 4.5 onwards. Alphons -- VISTA - Viruses Intruders Spyware Trojans Adware ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Realtek 8111B LAN Chipset
Alphons \Fonz\ van Werven writes: I also want a cheap PCI/e NIC that works well with drivers back toFreeBSD-4 like my plain PCI bge and em NICs do. I doubt that any popular motherboard will have anything better than a cheap PCI/e NIC. Finding a modern main board of which the builtin NIC works with 4.X seems like a tall order to me, perhaps it would be easier to install a seperate NIC. With some luck you might be able to pick up a decent used NIC from a discarded Pentium(2) or something. I've been using a 3Com 3c509 combo card for years. In 3.X the driver was still buggy, but it worked great with 4.X, particularly the later ones, say, 4.5 onwards. Not responding to the above directly, but: 1) RealTek has a reputation for making cheap-ass cards - not just point-and-laugh, but point-and-spit. 2) If you're going with a separate card, allow me to recommend the Intel Pro/1000 series. Major manufacturer, driver written by Intel (and the maintainer responds promptly to issues), and available for ~$25 on eBay. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Realtek 8111B LAN Chipset
However it seems many of the popular motherboards have Realtek ALC888 as built-in audio and Realtek 8111B as built-in LAN. I read at: http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/CURRENT/hardware/i386/article.html that the sound should work but I couldn't find any info on the LAN. Does anyone on the list have any experience with it? By the way, I'm going to run FreeBSD 7. The RealTek LAN works fine on my box. Audio from Realtek ALC883 also works, but I would not know about ALC888. tkgeomap502$ uname -a FreeBSD localhost 7.0-BETA3 FreeBSD 7.0-BETA3 #5: Fri Dec 21 22:03:40 CST 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM amd64 tkgeomap503$ dmesg | grep -i realtek re0: RealTek 8168/8111B PCIe Gigabit Ethernet port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem 0xfdaff000-0xfdaf irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci2 pcm0: HDA Codec: Realtek ALC883 Note that I'm on U.S. cable internet, so I'm not too worried about network performance. This is on Asus M2A-VM HDMI motherboard (AMD 690G chipset). Everything works, although ACPI appears to be inaccessible. Cheers, Gordon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Realtek 8111B LAN Chipset
Bruce Evans said: I also want a cheap PCI/e NIC that works well with drivers back to FreeBSD-4 like my plain PCI bge and em NICs do. I doubt that any popular motherboard will have anything better than a cheap PCI/e NIC. I have recently upgraded an old machine with a good AGP video card to a Core 2 Duo processor. I have found an Asrock motherboard which supports such processor, but also both AGP and PCI-e video cards, both IDE and SATA disks, etc. so one can keep old parts. The chipset is from VIA and works well as far as i can see, and moreover doesn't overheat and supports passive cooling. The integrated NIC is the traditional ViaRhine, and it works under all versions of FreeBSD. Audio is supported by hda driver in recent FreeBSD. http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=4COREDUAL-VSTA This mobo is very cheap (around 50 euros here). Coupled to a cheap Core 2 Duo this gives a good and *very quiet* machine for a surprising small amount of money (i spent less than 150 euros for the mobo, the processor and a new power supply). The performance is light years ahead of the previous Athlon, and the fan sound which was very present is now almost unaudible. -- Michel TALON ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Realtek 8111B LAN Chipset
Bruce Evans wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008, Greg Mars wrote: I'm buying parts for a computer and want to make sure that the core components are as freebsd friendly as possible. So far, I've decided on a core 2 quad q6600 and I'm choosing the motherboard now. Me2 (unless I wait for a newer generation of CPUs). However it seems many of the popular motherboards have Realtek ALC888 as built-in audio and Realtek 8111B as built-in LAN. I read at: That audio didn't work with 6.2 Release and that LAN controller is very problematic. You are better of getting PCI/LAN on the garage sale. I like DLink and they go for $1 in U. S. and will solve your second problem as well. http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/CURRENT/hardware/i386/article.html that the sound should work but I couldn't find any info on the LAN. Does anyone on the list have any experience with it? By the way, I'm going to run FreeBSD 7. I also want a cheap PCI/e NIC that works well with drivers back to FreeBSD-4 like my plain PCI bge and em NICs do. I doubt that any popular motherboard will have anything better than a cheap PCI/e NIC. Bruce ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Realtek 8111B LAN Chipset
On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 10:32:18AM -1000, NetOpsCenter wrote: Bernd Walter wrote: Realtek has two devices for Gbit PCI: the 8169 and the reduced 8110. They are both more or less the same - likely even the same chip inside, but the later has pins reduced. AFAIK the later can't have an external PHY, which you can't have anyway if there is neither a connector or PHY itself connected on the board. The 8168 is the successor for PCI express, with the 8111 being the new reduced variant. Both PCIe are detected but didn't run stable with our re(4), but it is said that the latest driver fixes this and also adds a good speed improvement. Thanks for the info Bernd, I have the 8169's running fine on 7.* and 8.* . I believe these have the new drivers. The 8169 are not PCI express - they work stable since a very long time now, but the latest additions have some enhancements for them. One of the additions is seeable by issuing ifconfig, that is TSO4, which wasn't supported previously, but there were other speed enhancements as well. I've just looked into CVS and it was added in Rev 1.101 I don't know how much of it made it into 7.0. -- B.Walterhttp://www.bwct.de http://www.fizon.de [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Realtek 8111B LAN Chipset
Gordon work wrote: The RealTek LAN works fine on my box. Audio from Realtek ALC883 also works, but I would not know about ALC888. tkgeomap502$ uname -a FreeBSD localhost 7.0-BETA3 FreeBSD 7.0-BETA3 #5: Fri Dec 21 22:03:40 CST 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM amd64 tkgeomap503$ dmesg | grep -i realtek re0: RealTek 8168/8111B PCIe Gigabit Ethernet port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem 0xfdaff000-0xfdaf irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci2 pcm0: HDA Codec: Realtek ALC883 Note that I'm on U.S. cable internet, so I'm not too worried about network performance. This is on Asus M2A-VM HDMI motherboard (AMD 690G chipset). Everything works, although ACPI appears to be inaccessible. Cheers, Gordon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. This is exactly what I wanted to know. I'll probably end up buying external sound and LAN cards anyway, but I'd rather the onboard devices work too. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Realtek 8111B LAN Chipset
I'm buying parts for a computer and want to make sure that the core components are as freebsd friendly as possible. So far, I've decided on a core 2 quad q6600 and I'm choosing the motherboard now. However it seems many of the popular motherboards have Realtek ALC888 as built-in audio and Realtek 8111B as built-in LAN. I read at: http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/CURRENT/hardware/i386/article.html that the sound should work but I couldn't find any info on the LAN. Does anyone on the list have any experience with it? By the way, I'm going to run FreeBSD 7. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Realtek 8111B LAN Chipset
Greg Mars wrote: I'm buying parts for a computer and want to make sure that the core components are as freebsd friendly as possible. So far, I've decided on a core 2 quad q6600 and I'm choosing the motherboard now. However it seems many of the popular motherboards have Realtek ALC888 as built-in audio and Realtek 8111B as built-in LAN. I read at: http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/CURRENT/hardware/i386/article.html that the sound should work but I couldn't find any info on the LAN. Does anyone on the list have any experience with it? By the way, I'm going to run FreeBSD 7. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aloha, Realtek 8169 is a 1000 M and works on 7.* and 8.* I think 8111 maybe old 100M ? Are you sure about the Realtek model #? ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Realtek 8111B LAN Chipset
NetOpsCenter wrote: Greg Mars wrote: I'm buying parts for a computer and want to make sure that the core components are as freebsd friendly as possible. So far, I've decided on a core 2 quad q6600 and I'm choosing the motherboard now. However it seems many of the popular motherboards have Realtek ALC888 as built-in audio and Realtek 8111B as built-in LAN. I read at: http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/CURRENT/hardware/i386/article.html that the sound should work but I couldn't find any info on the LAN. Does anyone on the list have any experience with it? By the way, I'm going to run FreeBSD 7. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aloha, Realtek 8169 is a 1000 M and works on 7.* and 8.* I think 8111 maybe old 100M ? Are you sure about the Realtek model #? ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol Hi, If you click on the motherboard specifications link below, you'll see where they list the LAN chipset as Realtek 8111B http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186133 This seems to be the page for the chip on Realtek's site: http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/productsView.aspx?Langid=1PFid=5Level=5Conn=4ProdID=11 Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
