Re: Reasonable Hyperterminal Alternative [solved]

2004-12-18 Thread Colin J. Raven
Gentlemen (those BCc'd) and List;
Pursuant to this earlier request I was ultimately successful in locating 
a Windows XP Hyperterminal alternative that enabled me to connect to the 
serial port of a server, but *also* a client that allows ssh and telnet 
[shudder] sessions within the same interface.

The client in question is IVT written by a guy called Ruurd Beerstra, 
and can be obtained from:
http://home.planet.nl/~ruurdb/

Think of it as a tabbed interface for various connection protocols. For 
example at the present moment I have several sessions open in one 
instance of IVT:
Serial console connection to mail server
Telnet connection to ADSL router
ssh2 connection to NL datacenter box
ssh2 connection to US datacenter box

It's a highly decent (and FREE) client. Way WAY better than 
Hyperterminal and an excellent companion application to Putty. (Meaning 
sometimes you may care to use Putty for normal ssh connections, and at 
other times if you happen to have IVT open, start an ssh session in 
there to your server of choice)

I think there are one or two minor flaws in it, but nothing of note. I 
encourage everyone to download and try it - AND - send Ruud some 
feedback. I'd imagine that the more feedback he gets, the more he'll 
be motivated to continue improving on an already impressive piece of 
software.

Thanks for the advice and help everyone.
Regards,
-Colin
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Re: Reasonable Hyperterminal alternative?

2004-12-13 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 12:05:23PM -0600, Mike Oliveri wrote:
   Greetings all,
  
   I'm seeking a reasonable alternative to WinXP/2000 Hyperterminal as a
   console application (for serial port access to a no-graphics card box).
  
  
  Are you looking for something to run under BSD? If so, minicom is great.
  /usr/ports/comms/minicom/
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 I just went throught he same, myself. I like minicom, and I also found
 CuteCom (http://cutecom.sourceforge.net/) a nice one with a GUI. This
 one doesn't dial, however. Just console connections.
 
 Take care,
 Mike

Depending on how you define reasonable, you can always use the stock
utilities that come with a base install of FreeBSD: tip(1) or cu(1).  It
is the same binary hardlinked by those two filenames.  Certainly they
are not as easy to use as minicom, and are probably not as feature rich,
but should work nonetheless and wouldn't require to install another
program if you are keen on keeping the system as close to the base
as possible.

Nathan


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Re: Reasonable Hyperterminal alternative?

2004-12-13 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Monday 13 December 2004 01:16 pm, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. 
wrote:
snip

 And, on that line of thought, I suppose that kermit is a/the
 canonical piece of software, traditionally speaking; but last I
 looked, it was a significant time investment unless you just pick up
 things like that automagically.  Featureful, though; but not part of
 base.

 But, we'll soon have every alternative listed in this thread
 if we keep redefining reasonable, which is a rather subjective
 term, I suppose ...

 Kevin Kinsey

One of our vendors only supports dialing in via hyperterminal and the 
use of kermit for file transfers; but my transfers always (no 
exaggeration) aborted with a message referring to too many errors.  I 
now use kermit in FreeBSD; and finish regularly with 0 errors, a fast 
transfer and no headache.

I'm haven't learned a lot about kermit because its basic use meets my 
needs.  Some cool tips:

1. I execute ssh from within kermit to use kermit's file transfer 
capabilities over a secure connection.

2. You can script kermit for periodic chores. For example, I use the 
short script below to dial the vendor mentioned above using a modem at 
cuaa0:

#!/usr/local/bin/kermit
set modem type acer-v90
set line /dev/cuaa0
set speed 57600
set dial connect on
dial 1-999-999-


Best of luck,

Andrew Gould
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Re: Reasonable Hyperterminal alternative?

2004-12-13 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Nathan Kinkade wrote:
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 12:05:23PM -0600, Mike Oliveri wrote:
 

Greetings all,
I'm seeking a reasonable alternative to WinXP/2000 Hyperterminal as a
console application (for serial port access to a no-graphics card box).
   

Are you looking for something to run under BSD? If so, minicom is great.
/usr/ports/comms/minicom/
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I just went throught he same, myself. I like minicom, and I also found
CuteCom (http://cutecom.sourceforge.net/) a nice one with a GUI. This
one doesn't dial, however. Just console connections.
Take care,
Mike
   

Depending on how you define reasonable, you can always use the stock
utilities that come with a base install of FreeBSD: tip(1) or cu(1).  It
is the same binary hardlinked by those two filenames.  Certainly they
are not as easy to use as minicom, and are probably not as feature rich,
but should work nonetheless and wouldn't require to install another
program if you are keen on keeping the system as close to the base
as possible.
Nathan
 

And, on that line of thought, I suppose that kermit is a/the canonical
piece of software, traditionally speaking; but last I looked, it was
a significant time investment unless you just pick up things like that
automagically.  Featureful, though; but not part of base.
But, we'll soon have every alternative listed in this thread
if we keep redefining reasonable, which is a rather subjective
term, I suppose ...
Kevin Kinsey
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Re: Reasonable Hyperterminal alternative?

2004-12-13 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Monday 13 December 2004 03:48 pm, dave wrote:
 Hello,
 Everytime i've tried to get kermit to terminal, it's either
 trying to query a modem for dialup or if i can make it not do that

I've never tried serial console access.  My use has been limited to 
modems and ethernet.  The tutorial at the url below discusses the use 
of a null modem and -l option for serial console login:
http://www.freebsdhowtos.com/84.html

Also, you can find lots of information regarding kermit using the man 
page and at:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck80.html


 which i can't remember at the moment, i've never been able to get it
 to terminal. Cabling is not the issue. I was wondering if you could
 help, tell me what you did? Also, how did you execute ssh to enable a
 secure transfer?
 Thanks.
 Dave.

I use kermit and ssh over ethernet:

1. Start kermit with the command 'kermit' (no options or addresses 
needed).

2. At the kermit prompt, execute your ssh command. For example: 'ssh 
192.168.63.1'

3. Once the ssh connection has been made, start kermit at the other 
location within the ssh connection.  You can then send and receive 
multiple files using kermits globbing functions and it will all occur 
securely over ssh.

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould
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Re: Reasonable Hyperterminal alternative?

2004-12-13 Thread Dan Kilbourne
Colin J. Raven extolled:
 Greetings all,
 
 I'm seeking a reasonable alternative to WinXP/2000 Hyperterminal as a 
 console application (for serial port access to a no-graphics card box).
 

Are you looking for something to run under BSD? If so, minicom is great.
/usr/ports/comms/minicom/



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Re: Reasonable Hyperterminal alternative?

2004-12-13 Thread Mike Oliveri
I just went throught he same, myself. I like minicom, and I also found
CuteCom (http://cutecom.sourceforge.net/) a nice one with a GUI. This
one doesn't dial, however. Just console connections.

Take care,
Mike
www.mikeoliveri.com


On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 08:48:43 -0500, Dan Kilbourne
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 Colin J. Raven extolled:
  Greetings all,
 
  I'm seeking a reasonable alternative to WinXP/2000 Hyperterminal as a
  console application (for serial port access to a no-graphics card box).
 
 
 Are you looking for something to run under BSD? If so, minicom is great.
 /usr/ports/comms/minicom/
 
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Reasonable Hyperterminal alternative?

2004-12-10 Thread Colin J. Raven
Greetings all,
I'm seeking a reasonable alternative to WinXP/2000 Hyperterminal as a 
console application (for serial port access to a no-graphics card box).

I can and do use Hyperterminal but honestly...it's kinda ugly. It does 
the job well enough...I guess. I intend however to access one server 
from my desktop exclusively over the serial console and not permit user 
logins via ssh since no one requires shell access, thus I'll be spending 
more time in the app. If a *usable* hyperterminal alternative is 
available, that would be so cool.

Suggestions from the panel would be *most* welcome.
Regards  TIA,
-Colin
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re: Reasonable Hyperterminal alternative?

2004-12-10 Thread stheg olloydson
it was said:

 I'm seeking a reasonable alternative to WinXP/2000 Hyperterminal as a

 console application (for serial port access to a no-graphics card
box).


Hello,

I use SecureCRT from www.vandyke.com, but it pricey. Check TUCOWS
listing at
http://www.tucows.com/networkadministration_terminalemulation_default.html
(URL may have wrapped). They have user ratings, complete descriptions,
and download links for at least 23 different console programs. Some are
even free! (Most are shareware.) A popular (free) one is puTTY. FreeBSD
even has a port of it.

HTH,

stheg

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re: Reasonable Hyperterminal alternative?

2004-12-10 Thread Colin J. Raven
On Dec 10, stheg olloydson launched this into the bitstream:
it was said:
I'm seeking a reasonable alternative to WinXP/2000 Hyperterminal as a

console application (for serial port access to a no-graphics card
box).
Hello,
I use SecureCRT from www.vandyke.com, but it pricey. Check TUCOWS
listing at
http://www.tucows.com/networkadministration_terminalemulation_default.html
(URL may have wrapped). They have user ratings, complete descriptions,
and download links for at least 23 different console programs. Some are
even free! (Most are shareware.) A popular (free) one is puTTY. FreeBSD
even has a port of it.

Does Putty handle serial connections? I thought it didn't! I have Putty 
installed, better take a closer look...aparently I'm missing something! 
:)

Thanks for the advice!!
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Re: Reasonable Hyperterminal alternative?

2004-12-10 Thread Adam Fabian
On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 12:15:38AM +, Colin J. Raven wrote:
 I'm seeking a reasonable alternative to WinXP/2000 Hyperterminal as
 a console application (for serial port access to a no-graphics card
 box).

I tried using HyperTerminal to access the serial console of my OpenBSD
router.  It locked up on just about anything higher that 9600 when
switching from the bootloader to the rest of the system.  I ended up
using TeraTerm, which is free, and worked adequately.

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