Re: Release 4.5 and 4.6 - Boot.flp 2.8 mb?

2002-07-17 Thread Simon Dick

On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 10:48:33PM -0400, Jud wrote:
> 7/17/2002 10:00:45 PM, harsha godavari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Jud wrote:
> >> >Simon:
> >> >   I prepared both kern.flp & mfsroot.flp. When i tried to format
> >> >one of those  into a DOS bootdisk, it was formatted but without the
> >> >system files. Scandisk showed sectors marked "bad". The disk was
> >> >unbootable. Is there anyway that that disk can be cleaned up?
> >> 
> >> Whoa there, Harsha - kern.flp and mfsroot.flp will take care of 
> booting
> >> your machine into a FreeBSD installation all by themselves.  No DOS
> >> boot disk required.  (Yes, operating systems other than Windows -
> >> FreeBSD, Linux, etc. - can boot your computer.:)  Just two freshly
> >> formatted *empty* disks are required on which to image (with the
> >> fdimage utility) kern.flp and mfsroot.flp.
> 
> >Jud:
> >I was done with booting the system with kern.flp & mfsboot.flp.
> >After that I needed a DOS bootdisk in a hurry and not having any 
> spare
> >disks (at that location) I tried to make up a DOS disk from one of the
> >*.flp disks. Thats when I discovered that the new disk I just used for
> >the second time (it was a DOS bootdisk, the first time) has developed
> >"bad sectors". 
> >
> >I am really curious to know if DOS format command cannot really
> >reformate the boot sector of BSD boot code. If so is there a program
> >that can revert the disk to its pristine state :-)
> >
> >This is really an intellectual curiosity rather than trying to save a
> >10cent floppy.
> 
> Sorry, if you mentioned that you'd unsuccessfully tried to format the 
> floppies I missed it.  I don't have any particular expertise in this area.  If 
> you've unsuccessfully tried formatting them in DOS and/or Win, then 
> perhaps the FreeBSD dd command might work to write all zeroes to 
> them, but I don't know the proper syntax.

There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to format a floppy under
windows which used to contain the floppy images. If you are having
problems then it's likely due to the floppy itself (I've been able to
reformat freebsd boot disks with dos before with no problem).
Sorry if this doesn't help much, but it's all I know :)

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Re: Release 4.5 and 4.6 - Boot.flp 2.8 mb?

2002-07-17 Thread Jud

7/17/2002 10:00:45 PM, harsha godavari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Jud wrote:
>> 
>
>> >Simon:
>> >   I prepared both kern.flp & mfsroot.flp. When i tried to format
>> >one of those  into a DOS bootdisk, it was formatted but without the
>> >system files. Scandisk showed sectors marked "bad". The disk was
>> >unbootable. Is there anyway that that disk can be cleaned up?
>> >
>> >Regards
>> >Harsha Godavari
>> 
>> Whoa there, Harsha - kern.flp and mfsroot.flp will take care of 
booting
>> your machine into a FreeBSD installation all by themselves.  No DOS
>> boot disk required.  (Yes, operating systems other than Windows -
>> FreeBSD, Linux, etc. - can boot your computer.:)  Just two freshly
>> formatted *empty* disks are required on which to image (with the
>> fdimage utility) kern.flp and mfsroot.flp.
>> 
>> Jud

>Jud:
>I was done with booting the system with kern.flp & mfsboot.flp.
>After that I needed a DOS bootdisk in a hurry and not having any 
spare
>disks (at that location) I tried to make up a DOS disk from one of the
>*.flp disks. Thats when I discovered that the new disk I just used for
>the second time (it was a DOS bootdisk, the first time) has developed
>"bad sectors". 
>
>I am really curious to know if DOS format command cannot really
>reformate the boot sector of BSD boot code. If so is there a program
>that can revert the disk to its pristine state :-)
>
>This is really an intellectual curiosity rather than trying to save a
>10cent floppy.
>
>Regards
>Harsha Godavari

Hi, Harsha.  Please try to post below, rather than above, the msg to 
which you're replying.

Sorry, if you mentioned that you'd unsuccessfully tried to format the 
floppies I missed it.  I don't have any particular expertise in this area.  If 
you've unsuccessfully tried formatting them in DOS and/or Win, then 
perhaps the FreeBSD dd command might work to write all zeroes to 
them, but I don't know the proper syntax.

Jud




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Re: Release 4.5 and 4.6 - Boot.flp 2.8 mb?

2002-07-17 Thread harsha godavari

Jud:
I was done with booting the system with kern.flp & mfsboot.flp.
After that I needed a DOS bootdisk in a hurry and not having any spare
disks (at that location) I tried to make up a DOS disk from one of the
*.flp disks. Thats when I discovered that the new disk I just used for
the second time (it was a DOS bootdisk, the first time) has developed
"bad sectors". 

I am really curious to know if DOS format command cannot really
reformate the boot sector of BSD boot code. If so is there a program
that can revert the disk to its pristine state :-)

This is really an intellectual curiosity rather than trying to save a
10cent floppy.

Regards
Harsha Godavari

Jud wrote:
> 

> >Simon:
> >   I prepared both kern.flp & mfsroot.flp. When i tried to format
> >one of those  into a DOS bootdisk, it was formatted but without the
> >system files. Scandisk showed sectors marked "bad". The disk was
> >unbootable. Is there anyway that that disk can be cleaned up?
> >
> >Regards
> >Harsha Godavari
> 
> Whoa there, Harsha - kern.flp and mfsroot.flp will take care of booting
> your machine into a FreeBSD installation all by themselves.  No DOS
> boot disk required.  (Yes, operating systems other than Windows -
> FreeBSD, Linux, etc. - can boot your computer.:)  Just two freshly
> formatted *empty* disks are required on which to image (with the
> fdimage utility) kern.flp and mfsroot.flp.
> 
> Jud

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Re: Release 4.5 and 4.6 - Boot.flp 2.8 mb?

2002-07-17 Thread Jud

7/17/2002 8:20:56 PM, harsha godavari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Simon Dick wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 07:26:27PM +, Richard Durham 
wrote:
>> >
>> > I have checked both releases 4.5 and 4.6, the boot.flp file is 
2.8mb?? How
>> > can that be transferred to a single floppy?
>> > I've searched everywhere and found no answers.
>> > When trying to copy to a floppy Rawrite just registers an error - 
bad
>> > sector: 1
>> >
>> > Should the file be split and if so how?
>> 
>> The 2.88mb floppy image is usually used to boot the cdrom, or for 
people
>> with 2.88mb floppy drives. If you have the more common 1.44mb 
one then
>> you need to write kern.flp and mfsroot.flp to seperate floppies.
>> 
>> --
>> Simon Dick  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


>Simon:
>   I prepared both kern.flp & mfsroot.flp. When i tried to format
>one of those  into a DOS bootdisk, it was formatted but without the
>system files. Scandisk showed sectors marked "bad". The disk was
>unbootable. Is there anyway that that disk can be cleaned up?
>
>Regards
>Harsha Godavari

Whoa there, Harsha - kern.flp and mfsroot.flp will take care of booting 
your machine into a FreeBSD installation all by themselves.  No DOS 
boot disk required.  (Yes, operating systems other than Windows - 
FreeBSD, Linux, etc. - can boot your computer.:)  Just two freshly 
formatted *empty* disks are required on which to image (with the 
fdimage utility) kern.flp and mfsroot.flp.

Jud




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Re: Release 4.5 and 4.6 - Boot.flp 2.8 mb?

2002-07-17 Thread harsha godavari

Simon:
   I prepared both kern.flp & mfsroot.flp. When i tried to format
one of those  into a DOS bootdisk, it was formatted but without the
system files. Scandisk showed sectors marked "bad". The disk was
unbootable. Is there anyway that that disk can be cleaned up?

Regards
Harsha Godavari
   

Simon Dick wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 07:26:27PM +, Richard Durham wrote:
> >
> > I have checked both releases 4.5 and 4.6, the boot.flp file is 2.8mb?? How
> > can that be transferred to a single floppy?
> > I've searched everywhere and found no answers.
> > When trying to copy to a floppy Rawrite just registers an error - bad
> > sector: 1
> >
> > Should the file be split and if so how?
> 
> The 2.88mb floppy image is usually used to boot the cdrom, or for people
> with 2.88mb floppy drives. If you have the more common 1.44mb one then
> you need to write kern.flp and mfsroot.flp to seperate floppies.
> 
> --
> Simon Dick  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>

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Re: Release 4.5 and 4.6 - Boot.flp 2.8 mb?

2002-07-17 Thread Simon Dick

On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 07:26:27PM +, Richard Durham wrote:
> 
> I have checked both releases 4.5 and 4.6, the boot.flp file is 2.8mb?? How 
> can that be transferred to a single floppy?
> I've searched everywhere and found no answers.
> When trying to copy to a floppy Rawrite just registers an error - bad 
> sector: 1
> 
> Should the file be split and if so how?

The 2.88mb floppy image is usually used to boot the cdrom, or for people
with 2.88mb floppy drives. If you have the more common 1.44mb one then
you need to write kern.flp and mfsroot.flp to seperate floppies.

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Release 4.5 and 4.6 - Boot.flp 2.8 mb?

2002-07-17 Thread Richard Durham


I have checked both releases 4.5 and 4.6, the boot.flp file is 2.8mb?? How 
can that be transferred to a single floppy?
I've searched everywhere and found no answers.
When trying to copy to a floppy Rawrite just registers an error - bad 
sector: 1

Should the file be split and if so how?

Thanks for your help.

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