Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot

2009-09-14 Thread Mel Flynn
On Saturday 22 August 2009 02:40:53 Scott Schappell wrote:
 On Aug 21, 2009, at 17:32:13, Mel Flynn wrote:
  On Friday 21 August 2009 07:34:11 Scott Schappell wrote:
  Looking at info.0 I see:
 
 
  Dump header from device /dev/ad0s1b
Architecture: i386
Architecture Version: 2
Dump Length: 155131904B (147 MB)
Blocksize: 512
Dumptime: Fri Aug 21 08:27:45 2009
Hostname: arthur.silvertree.org
Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump
Version String: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 #1: Fri Aug 14 13:27:47 PDT
  2009
  r...@arthur.silvertree.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARTHUR
Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod
Dump Parity: 2778312054
Bounds: 0
Dump Status: good
 
  This is interesting:
 
  Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod
 
  It looks I'm guessing this is saying read only file system
  modified.  So it looks like the problem is with mount?
 
  If there's anything you want me to pull from the vmcore.0 let me
  know.
 
  Again, this happens with the drive mounted RO from fstab. Unmounted
  then mount -o rw /backup.
 
  Something is amiss, and first blush doesn't seem to be hardware
  related.
 
  There should be a backtrace in info.0 already. That part contains more
  relevant information.
 
 Nope, that's all info.0 contains.

Follow up. Temp fix available here:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=193338+0+current/freebsd-current
-- 
Mel
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Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot

2009-08-21 Thread Norbert Papke
On August 20, 2009, Scott Schappell wrote:
 I cannot get the system to generate a dump, even though dumpon verified
 it's set to the swap drive but /var/crash stays empty. I have
 dumpdev=AUTO in rc.conf and dumpdir=/var/crash as well.

If you don't have it already, you may also need 

ddb_enable=YES
savecore_enable=YES

Cheers,

-- Norbert Papke.
   npa...@acm.org


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Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot

2009-08-21 Thread Scott Schappell

Looking at info.0 I see:


Dump header from device /dev/ad0s1b
  Architecture: i386
  Architecture Version: 2
  Dump Length: 155131904B (147 MB)
  Blocksize: 512
  Dumptime: Fri Aug 21 08:27:45 2009
  Hostname: arthur.silvertree.org
  Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump
  Version String: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 #1: Fri Aug 14 13:27:47 PDT  
2009

r...@arthur.silvertree.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARTHUR
  Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod
  Dump Parity: 2778312054
  Bounds: 0
  Dump Status: good

This is interesting:

Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod

It looks I'm guessing this is saying read only file system  
modified.  So it looks like the problem is with mount?


If there's anything you want me to pull from the vmcore.0 let me know.

Again, this happens with the drive mounted RO from fstab. Unmounted  
then mount -o rw /backup.


Something is amiss, and first blush doesn't seem to be hardware related.

Scott
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Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot

2009-08-21 Thread Mel Flynn
On Friday 21 August 2009 07:34:11 Scott Schappell wrote:
 Looking at info.0 I see:


 Dump header from device /dev/ad0s1b
Architecture: i386
Architecture Version: 2
Dump Length: 155131904B (147 MB)
Blocksize: 512
Dumptime: Fri Aug 21 08:27:45 2009
Hostname: arthur.silvertree.org
Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump
Version String: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 #1: Fri Aug 14 13:27:47 PDT
 2009
  r...@arthur.silvertree.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARTHUR
Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod
Dump Parity: 2778312054
Bounds: 0
Dump Status: good

 This is interesting:

 Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod

 It looks I'm guessing this is saying read only file system
 modified.  So it looks like the problem is with mount?

 If there's anything you want me to pull from the vmcore.0 let me know.

 Again, this happens with the drive mounted RO from fstab. Unmounted
 then mount -o rw /backup.

 Something is amiss, and first blush doesn't seem to be hardware related.

There should be a backtrace in info.0 already. That part contains more 
relevant information.
-- 
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Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot

2009-08-20 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 18 August 2009 12:11:10 Tim Judd wrote:
 On 8/18/09, Scott Schappell arc...@silvertree.org wrote:
  I have a drive (/dev/ad2s1d) mounted to /backup that I want to be read
  only until the backup scripts run and then it will be read/write.  If
  I set /etc/fstab to:
 
  /dev/ad2s1d /backup ufs ro
  0   0

 On my CF-based devices (firewalls.. nagios boxes, etc), I run:

 mount -uw /
 to update the mount (not mount again) the filesystem.  If you're
 trying to mount again, I could understand why the box panics.

I don't. It's perfectly valid to mount a device multiple times and on the same 
node even. Certainly unmounting then remounting should not panic the system.

If you keep getting this panic, please try and obtain a crash dump, though I 
suspect this to be driver or hardware related as I can't imagine such a bug 
has slipped into vfs/ufs.
-- 
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Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot

2009-08-20 Thread Mel Flynn
On Thursday 20 August 2009 15:00:48 Scott Schappell wrote:
 On Aug 20, 2009, at 15:42:05, Mel Flynn wrote:
  I don't. It's perfectly valid to mount a device multiple times and
  on the same
  node even. Certainly unmounting then remounting should not panic the
  system.
 
  If you keep getting this panic, please try and obtain a crash dump,
  though I
  suspect this to be driver or hardware related as I can't imagine
  such a bug
  has slipped into vfs/ufs.
  --
  Mel

 Since using the mount -r syntax, it hasn't crashed once.  How does one
 obtain a crash dump? I'll be happy to force the system to hork and
 send a crash log.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html
-- 
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Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot

2009-08-20 Thread Scott Schappell

On 8/20/2009 4:31 PM, Mel Flynn wrote:


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html


OK, /backup was mounted read only, I did the following

umount /backup
mount -o rw /backup
[r...@arthur ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/backup/testfile bs=1024
dd: /backup/testfile: end of device
21122+0 records in
21121+0 records out
21627904 bytes transferred in 2.215991 secs (9759924 bytes/sec)
[r...@arthur ~]#


You can see by that snippet it barfed at 21627094 bytes (21 megabytes, 
ish). /backup has 100s of GiB free.


Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a9.7G453M8.5G 5%/
devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
/dev/ad0s1d 15G481M 13G 4%/var
/dev/ad0s1e 15G3.1G 10G23%/usr
/dev/ad0s1f 15G1.4G 12G10%/usr/local
/dev/ad0s1g216G3.5G195G 2%/home
/dev/ad2s1d226G 32G176G15%/backup

I cannot get the system to generate a dump, even though dumpon verified 
it's set to the swap drive but /var/crash stays empty. I have 
dumpdev=AUTO in rc.conf and dumpdir=/var/crash as well.


Could this have anything to do with how I added the drive? I followed 
the handbook instructions but maybe I messed it up.

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Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot

2009-08-20 Thread Scott Schappell

On 8/20/2009 7:36 PM, Scott Schappell wrote:

On 8/20/2009 4:31 PM, Mel Flynn wrote:


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html



OK, /backup was mounted read only, I did the following

umount /backup
mount -o rw /backup
[r...@arthur ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/backup/testfile bs=1024
dd: /backup/testfile: end of device
21122+0 records in
21121+0 records out
21627904 bytes transferred in 2.215991 secs (9759924 bytes/sec)
[r...@arthur ~]#



As of now, the dd command above has not crashed and it's past 3 GiB, 
using the mount -u -w syntax versus unmount, mount -o rw.


This is puzzling.
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Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot

2009-08-20 Thread Mel Flynn
On Thursday 20 August 2009 18:40:27 Scott Schappell wrote:
 On 8/20/2009 7:36 PM, Scott Schappell wrote:
  On 8/20/2009 4:31 PM, Mel Flynn wrote:
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ker
 neldebug.html
 
  OK, /backup was mounted read only, I did the following
 
  umount /backup
  mount -o rw /backup
  [r...@arthur ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/backup/testfile bs=1024
  dd: /backup/testfile: end of device
  21122+0 records in
  21121+0 records out
  21627904 bytes transferred in 2.215991 secs (9759924 bytes/sec)
  [r...@arthur ~]#

 As of now, the dd command above has not crashed and it's past 3 GiB,
 using the mount -u -w syntax versus unmount, mount -o rw.

 This is puzzling.

I agree. These errors make no sense to me, which leads me to drive cable or 
physical memory problems, perhaps filesystem corruption. Since you have plenty 
of space on /home, is it possible for you to move whatever's on /backup to 
/home, then newfs /backup? Of course you could try fsck -y /backup in single 
user, but with these weird errors, I trust the filesystem on that disk as far 
as I can throw it.
-- 
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Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot

2009-08-18 Thread Scott Schappell
I have a drive (/dev/ad2s1d) mounted to /backup that I want to be read  
only until the backup scripts run and then it will be read/write.  If  
I set /etc/fstab to:


/dev/ad2s1d /backup ufs ro   
0   0


to mount it read only most of the time then do:

umount /backup
mount -o rw /backup

the system crashes, it just reboots about 10 seconds into writing  
data.  The system is perfectly stable with it mounted read/write.


Also, dmesg.boot has completely disappeared from the system, and  
touch /var/log/dmesg.boot it does not get populated.


# uname -a
FreeBSD arthur.silvertree.org 7.2-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3  
#1: Fri Aug 14 13:27:47 PDT 2009 r...@arthur.silvertree.org:/usr/ 
obj/usr/src/sys/ARTHUR  i386


Any suggestions on the remounting drive and dmesg.boot?

Thanks!

Scott

P.S. It's good to be off of FreeBSD 4.11 :)


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Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot

2009-08-18 Thread Tim Judd
On 8/18/09, Scott Schappell arc...@silvertree.org wrote:
 I have a drive (/dev/ad2s1d) mounted to /backup that I want to be read
 only until the backup scripts run and then it will be read/write.  If
 I set /etc/fstab to:

 /dev/ad2s1d /backup ufs ro
 0   0

On my CF-based devices (firewalls.. nagios boxes, etc), I run:

mount -uw /
to update the mount (not mount again) the filesystem.  If you're
trying to mount again, I could understand why the box panics.


Try in your script:
  mount -u -w /backups
or shorter by a little:
  mount -uw /backups

do your stuff, then go back to read-only:
  mount -ur /backups


HTH


 to mount it read only most of the time then do:

 umount /backup
 mount -o rw /backup

 the system crashes, it just reboots about 10 seconds into writing
 data.  The system is perfectly stable with it mounted read/write.

 Also, dmesg.boot has completely disappeared from the system, and
 touch /var/log/dmesg.boot it does not get populated.

 # uname -a
 FreeBSD arthur.silvertree.org 7.2-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3
 #1: Fri Aug 14 13:27:47 PDT 2009 r...@arthur.silvertree.org:/usr/
 obj/usr/src/sys/ARTHUR  i386

 Any suggestions on the remounting drive and dmesg.boot?

 Thanks!

 Scott

 P.S. It's good to be off of FreeBSD 4.11 :)


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Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot

2009-08-18 Thread Scott Schappell

On Aug 18, 2009, at 13:11:10, Tim Judd wrote:


On my CF-based devices (firewalls.. nagios boxes, etc), I run:

mount -uw /
to update the mount (not mount again) the filesystem.  If you're
trying to mount again, I could understand why the box panics.


Try in your script:
 mount -u -w /backups
or shorter by a little:
 mount -uw /backups

do your stuff, then go back to read-only:
 mount -ur /backups


HTH
We have a winner. I am sheepish in admitting I didn't read the man  
page well enough for mount.


Thanks for the answer!

Scott

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