Re: Running X without a videocard
DISPLAY variable must point to display like IP-number:0 (or non-zero if you have more than 1 display :) Shouldn't that be IP-number:0.0 ? Olivier Only in case there are multiple screens on the specified server. (The first number, which is mandatory, IIRC, specifies the server and the second, optional, specifies its screen.) (-K -- (-K JohnNy aka Partial Derivative ∂ [home] http://johnny64.fixinko.sk/ [icq] 338328204 [abandoned] [jabber] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [skype] JohnNy64-konik [abandoned] pgpSE1GjYuW1b.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Running X without a videocard
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:58:40PM -0600, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: X windows has client/server built into the protocol: you can run an X application on a machine that has no video card and display the result on another machine that has video facility and an X display (called an X server). Does anyone know of a tutorial or a how-to, I would like to try this out. Not sure if it is of help to you. I use XDMCP on the clients' side, and X -query xx.xx.xx.xx on the sever side. YOu need to be in the trusted network. Have a look at this thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/index.html#194794 and at the xdm(1) man page. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running X without a videocard
On Wednesday 19 November 2008, Gary Hartl wrote: Whoa this is way beyond me I think...can you direct me to a howto or the like. X11 over SSH good lordi'm out of touch with *NIX.. Am i to understand that i could run a pretty nice (not gnome or kde) but one of the less intense interfaces over ssh (this is on an internal network so connection speed isn't an issue. 6 years, and I have admin alzheimers' Thanks X11 over ssh is as simple as: workstation-with-X ssh -Y headlessbox headlessbox xterm Or even shorter: ssh -Y headlessbox xterm To enable X11 over SSH you need to at least have xauth installed on the headless box (and ofcourse the X program you're trying to run, in my example xterm). -- Pieter de Goeje ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running X without a videocard
I am running FBSD-stable 6.0 on some Sun Netra X1's so it is sparc64. There is no video card on these puppies. But I seem to recall that we ran solaris X using WinAXE or VNC or something like that for fast network (LAN) telnet/rlogin (better not ssh) export DISPLAY=IP-of-your-display:0 then start X apps make sure to allow on your local display connecting X program - man xhost for lower speed connection ssh -C -X yournetra then run X apps for lowest speed connection run VNC. if your local display run windoze you probably have only the last choice. i don't know if they are working X11 servers for windows. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running X without a videocard
I am running FBSD-stable 6.0 on some Sun Netra X1's so it is sparc64. There is no video card on these puppies. But I seem to recall that we ran solaris X using WinAXE or VNC or something like that for fast network (LAN) telnet/rlogin (better not ssh) export DISPLAY=IP-of-your-display:0 then start X apps make sure to allow on your local display connecting X program - man xhost for lower speed connection ssh -C -X yournetra then run X apps for lowest speed connection run VNC. if your local display run windoze you probably have only the last choice. i don't know if they are working X11 servers for windows. There are, in fact, in cygwin. The cygwin X11 server works quite well and is free. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running X without a videocard
I am running FBSD-stable 6.0 on some Sun Netra X1's so it is sparc64. There is no video card on these puppies. But I seem to recall that we ran solaris X using WinAXE or VNC or something like that X windows has client/server built into the protocol: you can run an X application on a machine that has no video card and display the result on another machine that has video facility and an X display (called an X server). Of course, some things like watching a movie (you run the movie application on the machine without video card and display the images on the machine with video card) does not works well over the network: it is very slow (plus X does not have sound). i don't know if they are working X11 servers for windows. Xming (free) Xwin32 (commercial) cygwin (free but big) and some others. Depending on the type of application you plan to run Xming can be a good choice. Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Running X without a videocard
-Original Message- From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November-19-08 5:28 AM To: Gary Hartl Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Running X without a videocard I am running FBSD-stable 6.0 on some Sun Netra X1's so it is sparc64. There is no video card on these puppies. But I seem to recall that we ran solaris X using WinAXE or VNC or something like that for fast network (LAN) telnet/rlogin (better not ssh) export DISPLAY=IP-of-your-display:0 then start X apps when i do this: export DISPLAY=192.168.0.100:0 xterm first it tells me that export can't befound, I guess that is because it is a built it. So I added to my .profile the following DISPLAY=192.168.0.100:0 export DISPLAY Logged out and logged back in. Alas no display variable When i run xterm it tells me that there is not display variable. Anyone with suggestions Thanks Gary make sure to allow on your local display connecting X program - man xhost for lower speed connection ssh -C -X yournetra then run X apps for lowest speed connection run VNC. if your local display run windoze you probably have only the last choice. i don't know if they are working X11 servers for windows. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running X without a videocard
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:10:28 -0500, Gary Hartl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when i do this: export DISPLAY=192.168.0.100:0 xterm first it tells me that export can't befound, I guess that is because it is a built it. Important question here: What's your shell? If you're using FreeBSD's standard dialog shell, the C shell, export won't work because it's from sh or bash. So I added to my .profile the following DISPLAY=192.168.0.100:0 export DISPLAY Logged out and logged back in. Alas no display variable When i run xterm it tells me that there is not display variable. Make sure you're using bash (see your shell setting from the chsh command or echo $SHELL). If you're using the C shell, you can use the setenv command instead. % setenv DISPLAY 192.168.0.100:0 % xterm See the advice regarding xhost in order to have the correct permissions to run the applications from the desired X server. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Running X without a videocard
when i do this: export DISPLAY=192.168.0.100:0 xterm first it tells me that export can't befound, I guess that is because it is a built it. So I added to my .profile the following DISPLAY=192.168.0.100:0 export DISPLAY maybe you use csh not bash as me. Logged out and logged back in. Alas no display variable don't forget using xhost on your display ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running X without a videocard
X windows has client/server built into the protocol: you can run an X application on a machine that has no video card and display the result on another machine that has video facility and an X display (called an X server). Does anyone know of a tutorial or a how-to, I would like to try this out. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running X without a videocard
X windows has client/server built into the protocol: you can run an X application on a machine that has no video card and display the result on another machine that has video facility and an X display (called an X server). Does anyone know of a tutorial or a how-to, I would like to try this out. i already answered it before DISPLAY variable must point to display like IP-number:0 (or non-zero if you have more than 1 display :) and computer with display must allow remote connections man xhost ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running X without a videocard
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: X windows has client/server built into the protocol: you can run an X application on a machine that has no video card and display the result on another machine that has video facility and an X display (called an X server). Does anyone know of a tutorial or a how-to, I would like to try this out. i already answered it before DISPLAY variable must point to display like IP-number:0 (or non-zero if you have more than 1 display :) and computer with display must allow remote connections This complexity of DISPLAY ans xhost is why I find it far easier to use ssh to make connections where I want to run X-clients. On the remote system to which one is connecting, make sure that the sshd_config file has ``X11Forwarding yes'' (and perhaps also ``ForwardX11Trusted yes''). Restart the sshd process if these need to be changed. There are corresponding options in the ssh_config file. The easiest way to execute a remote X-Client is probably This runs the remote program with the local username. The ``-f'' option automatically runs it in background, detaching from the current session. ssh -f -Y remotesystem path_to_x_client These run as a different user on the remote system. ssh -f -Y -l remoteusername remotesystem path_to_x_client ssh -f -Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] path_to_x_client If I may to be running multiple x-clients on the remote system, I will generally connect with an xterm, then launch the x-clients from that connection. There are two options here, the first on fast links where I want to run the xterm on the remote system, the second for slow links running the xterm on the local system. In the first, one may have to specify the full path to the xterm executable if it's not in the default PATH that sshd will set up. ssh -f -Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] xterm xterm -e ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Letting ssh take care of the DISPLAY makes life a lot easier than having to mess with it and xhosts manually, not to mention that it's far more secure than telnet. The ssh connections may well be compressed making remote connections seem faster than a straight telnet session even on a LAN (nobody would telnet over the Internet in an unencypted connection would they :-). Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax:(206) 232-9186 Freedom from prices is freedom from responsibility. You can simply pass laws, using the magic wand of government to satisfy your own desires at unspecified costs to be paid by others. -- Thomas Sowell Aug 2000 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running X without a videocard
This complexity of DISPLAY ans xhost is why I find it far easier to use ssh to make connections where I want to run X-clients. There is this command that I tend to like, to be run in a trusted environment only (but using DISPLAY and xhost means that your network is already trusted): xrsh. It connects using the same rules/permissions as rsh, but it also exports the DISPLAY, and it leaves no process waiting on the machine where you executed xrsh. Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running X without a videocard
DISPLAY variable must point to display like IP-number:0 (or non-zero if you have more than 1 display :) Shouldn't that be IP-number:0.0 ? Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Running X without a videocard
Hi all; More questions... I am running FBSD-stable 6.0 on some Sun Netra X1's so it is sparc64. There is no video card on these puppies. But I seem to recall that we ran solaris X using WinAXE or VNC or something like that I'm wondering if it is possible to do the same with FBSD. Thanks Gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running X without a videocard
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008, Gary Hartl wrote: Hi all; More questions... I am running FBSD-stable 6.0 on some Sun Netra X1's so it is sparc64. There is no video card on these puppies. But I seem to recall that we ran solaris X using WinAXE or VNC or something like that I'm wondering if it is possible to do the same with FBSD. You should be able to run X clients on the remote machine easily via ssh. There's no requirement for video cards, only that the appropriate X11 software be installed on the remote system. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax:(206) 232-9186 Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt. -- Herbert Hoover ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Running X without a videocard
Whoa this is way beyond me I think...can you direct me to a howto or the like. X11 over SSH good lordi'm out of touch with *NIX.. Am i to understand that i could run a pretty nice (not gnome or kde) but one of the less intense interfaces over ssh (this is on an internal network so connection speed isn't an issue. 6 years, and I have admin alzheimers' Thanks Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Campbell Sent: November-18-08 7:20 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running X without a videocard On Tue, Nov 18, 2008, Gary Hartl wrote: Hi all; More questions... I am running FBSD-stable 6.0 on some Sun Netra X1's so it is sparc64. There is no video card on these puppies. But I seem to recall that we ran solaris X using WinAXE or VNC or something like that I'm wondering if it is possible to do the same with FBSD. You should be able to run X clients on the remote machine easily via ssh. There's no requirement for video cards, only that the appropriate X11 software be installed on the remote system. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax:(206) 232-9186 Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt. -- Herbert Hoover ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running X without a videocard
On Tue 2008-11-18 19:02:48 UTC-0500, Gary Hartl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I am running FBSD-stable 6.0 on some Sun Netra X1's so it is sparc64. There is no video card on these puppies. But I seem to recall that we ran solaris X using WinAXE or VNC or something like that I'm wondering if it is possible to do the same with FBSD. I use vncserver from the net/tightvnc port. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
