SAMBA newbie

2005-03-10 Thread David Larkin
I have a FreeBSD 5.3 machine and a Windoze XP box.

I am the only user of both.

I don't want to share files or act as a full time fileserver.

I simply wish to exchange files ocassionally, e.g. copy FreeBSD backup files to 
the XP box to burn on CD.

I used to use anon ftp for this type of thing but found the security a 
nightmare. I've now installed Samba on the FreeBSD box , but I'm not sure this 
is a good idea.

Can I set up a 'sandbox' directory on my FreeBSD machine where both machines 
can read and write ? 

After installing samba and setting the workgroup in smb.conf, i can now see the 
FREEBSD box in 'view workgroup computers' but clicking on that I am asked for a 
username/password , which i'm reluctant to give.

Any advice ?
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Re: SAMBA newbie

2005-03-10 Thread Luke Kearney

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:28:52 +
David Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:

 I have a FreeBSD 5.3 machine and a Windoze XP box.
 
 I am the only user of both.
 
 I don't want to share files or act as a full time fileserver.
 
 I simply wish to exchange files ocassionally, e.g. copy FreeBSD backup files 
 to the XP box to burn on CD.
 
 I used to use anon ftp for this type of thing but found the security a 
 nightmare. I've now installed Samba on the FreeBSD box , but I'm not sure 
 this is a good idea.
 
 Can I set up a 'sandbox' directory on my FreeBSD machine where both machines 
 can read and write ? 
 
 After installing samba and setting the workgroup in smb.conf, i can now see 
 the FREEBSD box in 'view workgroup computers' but clicking on that I am asked 
 for a username/password , which i'm reluctant to give.
 
 Any advice ?
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Hello,
If you take a look at the documentation you will find that you have
several options, you can encrypt the passwds, you could set up a guest
account with no passwd but restrict access to a particular filesystem to
think of but two.

HTH

LukeK

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Re: SAMBA newbie

2005-03-10 Thread David Larkin
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 02:15:28 +0900
Luke Kearney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:28:52 +
 David Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:
 
  I have a FreeBSD 5.3 machine and a Windoze XP box.
  
  I am the only user of both.
  
  I don't want to share files or act as a full time fileserver.
  
  I simply wish to exchange files ocassionally, e.g. copy FreeBSD backup 
  files to the XP box to burn on CD.
  
  I used to use anon ftp for this type of thing but found the security a 
  nightmare. I've now installed Samba on the FreeBSD box , but I'm not sure 
  this is a good idea.
  
  Can I set up a 'sandbox' directory on my FreeBSD machine where both 
  machines can read and write ? 
  
  After installing samba and setting the workgroup in smb.conf, i can now see 
  the FREEBSD box in 'view workgroup computers' but clicking on that I am 
  asked for a username/password , which i'm reluctant to give.
  
  Any advice ?
  ___
 
 
 Hello,
 If you take a look at the documentation you will find that you have
 several options, you can encrypt the passwds, you could set up a guest
 account with no passwd but restrict access to a particular filesystem to
 think of but two.
 
 HTH
 
 LukeK
 

Thanks, I don't want to use any passwords, enrypted or otherwise

The guest account sounds interesing.

I've commented out the following in smb.conf

# This one is useful for people to share files
[tmp]
   comment = Temporary file space
   path = /tmp
   read only = no
   public = yes


should this allow everyone on both machines to write to the /tmp directory but 
not execute anything there ? 

I still get challenged for a username/password on the XP directory.
guest/guest and nobody/nobody   both fail

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Re: SAMBA newbie

2005-03-10 Thread David Larkin
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:59:32 +
David Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 02:15:28 +0900
 Luke Kearney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:28:52 +
  David Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:
  
   I have a FreeBSD 5.3 machine and a Windoze XP box.
   
   I am the only user of both.
   
   I don't want to share files or act as a full time fileserver.
   
   I simply wish to exchange files ocassionally, e.g. copy FreeBSD backup 
   files to the XP box to burn on CD.
   
   I used to use anon ftp for this type of thing but found the security a 
   nightmare. I've now installed Samba on the FreeBSD box , but I'm not sure 
   this is a good idea.
   
   Can I set up a 'sandbox' directory on my FreeBSD machine where both 
   machines can read and write ? 
   
   After installing samba and setting the workgroup in smb.conf, i can now 
   see the FREEBSD box in 'view workgroup computers' but clicking on that I 
   am asked for a username/password , which i'm reluctant to give.
   
   Any advice ?
   ___
  
  
  Hello,
  If you take a look at the documentation you will find that you have
  several options, you can encrypt the passwds, you could set up a guest
  account with no passwd but restrict access to a particular filesystem to
  think of but two.
  
  HTH
  
  LukeK
  
 
 Thanks, I don't want to use any passwords, enrypted or otherwise
 
 The guest account sounds interesing.
 
 I've commented out the following in smb.conf
 
 # This one is useful for people to share files
 [tmp]
comment = Temporary file space
path = /tmp
read only = no
public = yes
 
 
 should this allow everyone on both machines to write to the /tmp directory 
 but not execute anything there ? 
 
 I still get challenged for a username/password on the XP directory.
 guest/guest and nobody/nobody   both fail
 

OK, I got that to work by changing the line 
security = user

to

security = share


Is this safe ?




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Re: SAMBA newbie

2005-03-10 Thread Luke Kearney

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 19:19:45 +
David Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:

 On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:59:32 +
 David Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 02:15:28 +0900
  Luke Kearney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
   On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:28:52 +
   David Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:
   
I have a FreeBSD 5.3 machine and a Windoze XP box.

I am the only user of both.

I don't want to share files or act as a full time fileserver.

I simply wish to exchange files ocassionally, e.g. copy FreeBSD backup 
files to the XP box to burn on CD.

I used to use anon ftp for this type of thing but found the security a 
nightmare. I've now installed Samba on the FreeBSD box , but I'm not 
sure this is a good idea.

Can I set up a 'sandbox' directory on my FreeBSD machine where both 
machines can read and write ? 

After installing samba and setting the workgroup in smb.conf, i can now 
see the FREEBSD box in 'view workgroup computers' but clicking on that 
I am asked for a username/password , which i'm reluctant to give.

Any advice ?
___
   
   
   Hello,
   If you take a look at the documentation you will find that you have
   several options, you can encrypt the passwds, you could set up a guest
   account with no passwd but restrict access to a particular filesystem to
   think of but two.
   
   HTH
   
   LukeK
   
  
  Thanks, I don't want to use any passwords, enrypted or otherwise
  
  The guest account sounds interesing.
  
  I've commented out the following in smb.conf
  
  # This one is useful for people to share files
  [tmp]
 comment = Temporary file space
 path = /tmp
 read only = no
 public = yes
  
  
  should this allow everyone on both machines to write to the /tmp directory 
  but not execute anything there ? 
  
  I still get challenged for a username/password on the XP directory.
  guest/guest and nobody/nobody   both fail
  
 
 OK, I got that to work by changing the line 
 security = user
 
 to
 
 security = share
 
 
 Is this safe ?

I should think that it is not that good an idea to use /tmp unless you
have it on it's own partition as otherwise you could potentially allow
someone to upload a large file and fill the root partition at which
point a few other things might break too.

HTH

LukeK


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Re: SAMBA newbie

2005-03-10 Thread Nick Pavlica
Is this safe ?

Obviously security isn't really a priority in your situation.  It
sound like you are really looking for convenience.  That said there
are a large number of options out there for you, samba is one of them
and can easily be configured with a utility called webmin
(http://www.webmin.com/).  A more secure option could be OpenSSH.

--Nick




On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 19:19:45 +, David Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:59:32 +
 David Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 02:15:28 +0900
  Luke Kearney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
   On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:28:52 +
   David Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:
  
I have a FreeBSD 5.3 machine and a Windoze XP box.
   
I am the only user of both.
   
I don't want to share files or act as a full time fileserver.
   
I simply wish to exchange files ocassionally, e.g. copy FreeBSD backup 
files to the XP box to burn on CD.
   
I used to use anon ftp for this type of thing but found the security a 
nightmare. I've now installed Samba on the FreeBSD box , but I'm not 
sure this is a good idea.
   
Can I set up a 'sandbox' directory on my FreeBSD machine where both 
machines can read and write ?
   
After installing samba and setting the workgroup in smb.conf, i can now 
see the FREEBSD box in 'view workgroup computers' but clicking on that 
I am asked for a username/password , which i'm reluctant to give.
   
Any advice ?
___
  
  
   Hello,
   If you take a look at the documentation you will find that you have
   several options, you can encrypt the passwds, you could set up a guest
   account with no passwd but restrict access to a particular filesystem to
   think of but two.
  
   HTH
  
   LukeK
  
 
  Thanks, I don't want to use any passwords, enrypted or otherwise
 
  The guest account sounds interesing.
 
  I've commented out the following in smb.conf
 
  # This one is useful for people to share files
  [tmp]
 comment = Temporary file space
 path = /tmp
 read only = no
 public = yes
 
 
  should this allow everyone on both machines to write to the /tmp directory 
  but not execute anything there ?
 
  I still get challenged for a username/password on the XP directory.
  guest/guest and nobody/nobody   both fail
 
 
 OK, I got that to work by changing the line
 security = user
 
 to
 
 security = share
 
 Is this safe ?
 
 
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Re: SAMBA newbie

2005-03-10 Thread Kevin Kinsey
David Larkin wrote:
I have a FreeBSD 5.3 machine and a Windoze XP box.
I am the only user of both.
I don't want to share files or act as a full time fileserver.
I simply wish to exchange files ocassionally, e.g. copy 
FreeBSD backup files to the XP box to burn on CD.

I used to use anon ftp for this type of thing but found the 
security a nightmare. I've now installed Samba on the FreeBSD box,
but I'm not sure this is a good idea.

 

Nothing wrong with it that you've described so far.  For example,
I've not yet read whether you trust the wire or not
Can I set up a 'sandbox' directory on my FreeBSD machine where
both machines can read and write ? 

After installing samba and setting the workgroup in smb.conf, 
i can now see the FREEBSD box in 'view workgroup computers' but 
clicking on that I am asked for a username/password , which i'm reluctant to give.

Any advice ?
 

How about using the SharedDocs folder on the XP box?
From FBSD, as root:
# mount_smbfs -N //XPbox/SharedDocs /mnt
I have cron do this at every reboot.  If I need to put
anything on my XP Box, it's as simple as using tar,
cp, whatever.
Won't help in the vice versa case, of course...
HTH,
Kevin Kinsey
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Re: SAMBA newbie

2005-03-10 Thread Lowell Gilbert
David Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:59:32 +
 David Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 02:15:28 +0900
  Luke Kearney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
   On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:28:52 +
   David Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:
   
I have a FreeBSD 5.3 machine and a Windoze XP box.

I am the only user of both.

I don't want to share files or act as a full time fileserver.

I simply wish to exchange files ocassionally, e.g. copy FreeBSD backup 
files to the XP box to burn on CD.

I used to use anon ftp for this type of thing but found the security a 
nightmare. I've now installed Samba on the FreeBSD box , but I'm not 
sure this is a good idea.

Can I set up a 'sandbox' directory on my FreeBSD machine where both 
machines can read and write ? 

After installing samba and setting the workgroup in smb.conf, i can now 
see the FREEBSD box in 'view workgroup computers' but clicking on that 
I am asked for a username/password , which i'm reluctant to give.

Any advice ?
___
   
   
   Hello,
   If you take a look at the documentation you will find that you have
   several options, you can encrypt the passwds, you could set up a guest
   account with no passwd but restrict access to a particular filesystem to
   think of but two.
   
   HTH
   
   LukeK
   
  
  Thanks, I don't want to use any passwords, enrypted or otherwise
  
  The guest account sounds interesing.
  
  I've commented out the following in smb.conf
  
  # This one is useful for people to share files
  [tmp]
 comment = Temporary file space
 path = /tmp
 read only = no
 public = yes
  
  
  should this allow everyone on both machines to write to the /tmp directory 
  but not execute anything there ? 
  
  I still get challenged for a username/password on the XP directory.
  guest/guest and nobody/nobody   both fail
  
 
 OK, I got that to work by changing the line 
 security = user
 
 to
 
 security = share
 
 
 Is this safe ?

It isn't necessarily *that* bad security-wise, but if anyone else
might get access to the network over which they are communicating, 
they could make trouble.  On my own home network, I have mitigated
(but not eliminated) this problem by making a very small filesystem
just for this Samba share.  [I built the filesystem from file-backed
mdmfs(8).]  And make *very* sure that your Samba is not reachable from
other networks.

If you're really the only user of both systems, I would expect ssh
(with public key authentication, to avoid the passwords you said you
didn't want to type) would be easier (because it will work in either
direction, from either machine).  But that depends on your actual
usage patterns, of course.

-- 
Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area
http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/
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