Re: Since SquirrelMail Looks Like It Will Never Be Supported Again...
On Sat, 31 Aug 2013, Reko Turja wrote: -Original Message- From: Frank Leonhardt FWIW I'm using Dovecote 1 or 2 for the IMAP. In particular, Dovecot 1 with Squirrelmail has been really hammered, but has never broken. I sometimes get time-outs copying thousands of emails in one hit, but that's fair enough and nothing has ever been lost. Could the server be the problem in your case? I found the standard imapd did weird things for a lot of clients, and making the switch after many years of trying to blame the client software was a really good decision. Running Cyrus here for ages, it might be a bit of pain to set up, but it's been a really bulletproof and zero maintenance solution. The problems cannot be replicated on any other client, only Squirrel has those problems with mail not showing up. -Reko We run postfix/cyrus mail servers. My experience with messages not showing up happens with Outlook (versions 2003, 2007, and 2013), squirrelmail, and mac mail. In all cases reported, the user can find messages either by sorting by date or by searching on some matching criteria. We put this in our FAQ. I have not noticed this issue with a server using sendmail/dovecot. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Since SquirrelMail Looks Like It Will Never Be Supported Again...
On 02/09/2013 08:41, doug wrote: On Sat, 31 Aug 2013, Reko Turja wrote: -Original Message- From: Frank Leonhardt FWIW I'm using Dovecote 1 or 2 for the IMAP. In particular, Dovecot 1 with Squirrelmail has been really hammered, but has never broken. I sometimes get time-outs copying thousands of emails in one hit, but that's fair enough and nothing has ever been lost. Could the server be the problem in your case? I found the standard imapd did weird things for a lot of clients, and making the switch after many years of trying to blame the client software was a really good decision. Running Cyrus here for ages, it might be a bit of pain to set up, but it's been a really bulletproof and zero maintenance solution. The problems cannot be replicated on any other client, only Squirrel has those problems with mail not showing up. -Reko We run postfix/cyrus mail servers. My experience with messages not showing up happens with Outlook (versions 2003, 2007, and 2013), squirrelmail, and mac mail. In all cases reported, the user can find messages either by sorting by date or by searching on some matching criteria. We put this in our FAQ. I have not noticed this issue with a server using sendmail/dovecot. That's pretty much my experience too. You start off by blaming the client software until it shows up shows up on more than one platform. I used to believe that imapd, part of the base system, must be definitive and beyond reproach. Ha! I don't know so much about the others, but Dovecot is full of work-arounds for various IMAP clients to cope with bugs or variations from the IMAP specification. You can spend forever arguing about which interpretation of a spec is correct but I just want it to work. (Except that Microsoft is glaringly wrong). Dovecot is really easy to install, and migrate form the base system (I don't know about from Cyrus), and I wish I'd been steered towards it earlier (which is why I'm evangelising it here). Incidentally, I have no reason to believe Dovecot 2 is any less robust than Dovecot 1 - it's just that I've really hammered Dovecot 1 for several years longer than the newer version. Regards, Frank. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Since SquirrelMail Looks Like It Will Never Be Supported Again...
On 30/08/2013 22:20, Tim Daneliuk wrote: SquirrelMail seems to be forever on hold because of an incompatibility with PHP 5. So I am going to have to replace it as our Webmail interface. I'm a bit confused about this - you seem to be saying that Squirrelmail won't work on PHP 5? I've been running it on PHP 5 for years and it's being maintained to support changes for the latest 5.4 and 5.5 releases. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Since SquirrelMail Looks Like It Will Never Be Supported Again...
-Original Message- From: Frank Leonhardt On 30/08/2013 22:20, Tim Daneliuk wrote: SquirrelMail seems to be forever on hold because of an incompatibility with PHP 5. So I am going to have to replace it as our Webmail interface. I'm a bit confused about this - you seem to be saying that Squirrelmail won't work on PHP 5? I've been running it on PHP 5 for years and it's being maintained to support changes for the latest 5.4 and 5.5 releases. My experience with squirrel on PHP 5.x has been that it won't show every message in the webmail users inbox. People complained about lost mails and after checking spam filtering etc. I realised that the mails had arrived into inbox safely. After asking the clients to test another mail client - Thunderbird, Live mail, etc. The lost mails were there. That prompted for pretty fast substitution of squirrel with something else. Roundcube with it's snazzy javascript interface is neat, but many mobile/tablet browsers scale the display instead of doubleclicking. Sadly there is no free mobile theme for Roundcube, but every single one of those cost money. That leaves Imp as the only alternative left, especially if you avoid ToySQL like a plague. -Reko ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Since SquirrelMail Looks Like It Will Never Be Supported Again...
On 31/08/2013 10:32, Reko Turja wrote: -Original Message- From: Frank Leonhardt On 30/08/2013 22:20, Tim Daneliuk wrote: SquirrelMail seems to be forever on hold because of an incompatibility with PHP 5. So I am going to have to replace it as our Webmail interface. I'm a bit confused about this - you seem to be saying that Squirrelmail won't work on PHP 5? I've been running it on PHP 5 for years and it's being maintained to support changes for the latest 5.4 and 5.5 releases. My experience with squirrel on PHP 5.x has been that it won't show every message in the webmail users inbox. People complained about lost mails and after checking spam filtering etc. I realised that the mails had arrived into inbox safely. After asking the clients to test another mail client - Thunderbird, Live mail, etc. The lost mails were there. That prompted for pretty fast substitution of squirrel with something else. Roundcube with it's snazzy javascript interface is neat, but many mobile/tablet browsers scale the display instead of doubleclicking. Sadly there is no free mobile theme for Roundcube, but every single one of those cost money. That leaves Imp as the only alternative left, especially if you avoid ToySQL like a plague. I see. I've got it running on several servers, and have done for many years - and I've never experienced any problems or had them reported to me. I can't be sure, but I think I've only ever run it on PHP5 and nearly always on FreeBSD. One of the reasons I've stuck with it is that it's reliable and friendly to all browsers, and I use it for fixing user's mailbox problems. I've been playing around with Roundcube for a few months as an alternative - users like the way it looks. FWIW I'm using Dovecote 1 or 2 for the IMAP. In particular, Dovecot 1 with Squirrelmail has been really hammered, but has never broken. I sometimes get time-outs copying thousands of emails in one hit, but that's fair enough and nothing has ever been lost. Could the server be the problem in your case? I found the standard imapd did weird things for a lot of clients, and making the switch after many years of trying to blame the client software was a really good decision. Regards, Frank. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Since SquirrelMail Looks Like It Will Never Be Supported Again...
-Original Message- From: Frank Leonhardt FWIW I'm using Dovecote 1 or 2 for the IMAP. In particular, Dovecot 1 with Squirrelmail has been really hammered, but has never broken. I sometimes get time-outs copying thousands of emails in one hit, but that's fair enough and nothing has ever been lost. Could the server be the problem in your case? I found the standard imapd did weird things for a lot of clients, and making the switch after many years of trying to blame the client software was a really good decision. Running Cyrus here for ages, it might be a bit of pain to set up, but it's been a really bulletproof and zero maintenance solution. The problems cannot be replicated on any other client, only Squirrel has those problems with mail not showing up. -Reko ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Since SquirrelMail Looks Like It Will Never Be Supported Again...
--On August 31, 2013 8:35:27 AM +0100 Frank Leonhardt freebsd-...@fjl.co.uk wrote: On 30/08/2013 22:20, Tim Daneliuk wrote: SquirrelMail seems to be forever on hold because of an incompatibility with PHP 5. So I am going to have to replace it as our Webmail interface. I'm a bit confused about this - you seem to be saying that Squirrelmail won't work on PHP 5? I've been running it on PHP 5 for years and it's being maintained to support changes for the latest 5.4 and 5.5 releases. The port has been marked BROKEN for quite a while. The release that resolves problems with PHP 5.4 and above has not yet been released. The fixes have been in nightly snapshots since May 2013, but the final release (which would update the FreeBSD port) has never been available and still isn't. Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead. Thomas Jefferson There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them. George Orwell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Since SquirrelMail Looks Like It Will Never Be Supported Again...
SquirrelMail seems to be forever on hold because of an incompatibility with PHP 5. So I am going to have to replace it as our Webmail interface. So, I'm looking for recommendation from the tribe here on what I should use instead: 1) Easy to use. Mostly this gets used by people when they are away from the office and then only occasionally. 2) It would be really nice if the program could import the Thunderbird Address Book. 3) Easy to install and maintain. TIA, Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Since SquirrelMail Looks Like It Will Never Be Supported Again...
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com wrote: SquirrelMail seems to be forever on hold because of an incompatibility with PHP 5. So I am going to have to replace it as our Webmail interface. So, I'm looking for recommendation from the tribe here on what I should use instead: 1) Easy to use. Mostly this gets used by people when they are away from the office and then only occasionally. 2) It would be really nice if the program could import the Thunderbird Address Book. 3) Easy to install and maintain. Roundcube mail [1] should fit 1 and 2. For 3 i remember it could not do that directly (you had to convert the exported thunderbird contacts file into vcards), but maybe something changed since the last time i've installed/used it. [1] http://roundcube.net -- Gianni Vialetto To see things in the seed, that is genius. - Lao Tzu ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Since SquirrelMail Looks Like It Will Never Be Supported Again...
Hi Tim, Am 30.08.2013 23:20, schrieb Tim Daneliuk: SquirrelMail seems to be forever on hold because of an incompatibility with PHP 5. So I am going to have to replace it as our Webmail interface. So, I'm looking for recommendation from the tribe here on what I should use instead: 1) Easy to use. Mostly this gets used by people when they are away from the office and then only occasionally. 2) It would be really nice if the program could import the Thunderbird Address Book. 3) Easy to install and maintain. You might want to take a look at Horde Webmail Edition 5.x [1]. It is not just Webmail but a comprehensive Groupware, offering Calendar, Address Book, Task Lists, Wiki and so on. But it can be customized to only show what you really need. My experience is that it is very easy to use and can be set up with reasonable effort via ports[2]. The current version offers ActiveSync, CalDAV, CardDAV for Synchronization with mobile and desktop clients as well as a nice looking functional Web Interface. We use Horde 5.x since ~2 years now and made good experiences with it. Kind regards, Matthias [1] http://www.horde.org/apps/webmail [2] http://www.freshports.org/deskutils/horde-groupware/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Since SquirrelMail Looks Like It Will Never Be Supported Again...
check out roundcube -Original message- From: Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com To: FreeBSD Mailing List freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Fri, Aug 30, 2013 21:32:22 GMT+00:00 Subject: Since SquirrelMail Looks Like It Will Never Be Supported Again... SquirrelMail seems to be forever on hold because of an incompatibility with PHP 5. So I am going to have to replace it as our Webmail interface. So, I'm looking for recommendation from the tribe here on what I should use instead: 1) Easy to use. Mostly this gets used by people when they are away from the office and then only occasionally. 2) It would be really nice if the program could import the Thunderbird Address Book. 3) Easy to install and maintain. TIA, Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Since SquirrelMail Looks Like It Will Never Be Supported Again...
SquirrelMail seems to be forever on hold because of an incompatibility with PHP 5. So I am going to have to replace it as our Webmail interface. So, I'm looking for recommendation from the tribe here on what I should use instead: 1) Easy to use. Mostly this gets used by people when they are away from the office and then only occasionally. 2) It would be really nice if the program could import the Thunderbird Address Book. 3) Easy to install and maintain. Probably only real alternative is Imp/Horde. Roundcube is nice, but it's tablet and mobile support is really lacking (and all the mobile skins cost $$$). -Reko ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Since SquirrelMail Looks Like It Will Never Be Supported Again...
I have good experience with Group-office - http://sourceforge.net/projects/group-office/ and SOGo - http://www.sogo.nu/english.html Though you will need a MySQL backend for authentication. On 31 August 2013 00:20, Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com wrote: SquirrelMail seems to be forever on hold because of an incompatibility with PHP 5. So I am going to have to replace it as our Webmail interface. So, I'm looking for recommendation from the tribe here on what I should use instead: 1) Easy to use. Mostly this gets used by people when they are away from the office and then only occasionally. 2) It would be really nice if the program could import the Thunderbird Address Book. 3) Easy to install and maintain. TIA, --**--** Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
