RAID5 speed question.

2011-10-31 Thread Keith
Have an ancient 4.1R mail server to replace.
It has about 3000 accounts. Usual /var/mail to store mail.

/var/mail is RAID5 on an old Dell PERC3 card. Its worked
pretty well and have lived through 3 drive failures over
the years.

New Dell box with a PERC5/i. Same drive setup, a 500GB
RAID5 for /var/mail.

I do an ls -l in /var/mail on the old 4.10 machine and I get a directory
listing in about 2 seconds. This is about 3000 mailboxes.

On the new machine running 7.3 with the PERC5/i I rsync'd /var/mail and do
an ls -l and it takes a full 22 seconds to get a directory listing.

A plain ls in /var/mail on both machines is instantaneous.

I know RAID5 is not 'optimal' for this but I'm surprised at the difference
in how long it takes to do a directory listing using ls -l on the new
machine compared to the old one.

The new array is 500GB compared to about 36GB on the older machine.

Shouldn't a long directory listing be faster on the PERC5/i compared to
the old PERC3?

Other than that the new machine in all other aspects is faster, a lot
faster.

Thanks.


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Speed question

2005-10-26 Thread Sasa Stupar

Hi!

I have on my LAN a server FBSD 5.4 on DMZ. The router is made of linux (yes 
I'll change it to FBSD ASAP) with 3 NIC: eth0 (inet), eth1 (LAN), eth2 
(DMZ).
Strange thing is that when server is on DMZ and I access it from the LAN 
with ftp client my transfer speed is 30 Mbit/s. The network itself is 100 
Mbit. BUT if I move server from LAN to DMZ I have the max speed arround 100 
Mbit/s.
BTW: server in DMZ is connected directly to the NIC on router and on the 
LAN side I have all users connected on one switch which is connected to the 
router.


Is this normall for all kinds of routers (linux, bsd, etc.) with setup like 
mine to behave like this or is it just my router setup?


Regards,
Sasa

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Re: Speed question

2005-10-26 Thread Sasa Stupar



--On 26. oktober 2005 9:46 +0200 Sasa Stupar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



Hi!

I have on my LAN a server FBSD 5.4 on DMZ. The router is made of linux
(yes I'll change it to FBSD ASAP) with 3 NIC: eth0 (inet), eth1 (LAN),
eth2 (DMZ).
Strange thing is that when server is on DMZ and I access it from the LAN
with ftp client my transfer speed is 30 Mbit/s. The network itself is 100
Mbit. BUT if I move server from LAN to DMZ I have the max speed arround
100 Mbit/s.
BTW: server in DMZ is connected directly to the NIC on router and on the
LAN side I have all users connected on one switch which is connected to
the router.

Is this normall for all kinds of routers (linux, bsd, etc.) with setup
like mine to behave like this or is it just my router setup?

Regards,
Sasa


Made a mistake in the post:

BUT if I move server from LAN to DMZ...
should be
BUT if I move server from DMZ to LAN...#


Sasa

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Re: Speed question

2005-10-26 Thread Andrew P.
On 10/26/05, Sasa Stupar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 --On 26. oktober 2005 9:46 +0200 Sasa Stupar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Hi!
 
  I have on my LAN a server FBSD 5.4 on DMZ. The router is made of linux
  (yes I'll change it to FBSD ASAP) with 3 NIC: eth0 (inet), eth1 (LAN),
  eth2 (DMZ).
  Strange thing is that when server is on DMZ and I access it from the LAN
  with ftp client my transfer speed is 30 Mbit/s. The network itself is 100
  Mbit. BUT if I move server from LAN to DMZ I have the max speed arround
  100 Mbit/s.
  BTW: server in DMZ is connected directly to the NIC on router and on the
  LAN side I have all users connected on one switch which is connected to
  the router.
 
  Is this normall for all kinds of routers (linux, bsd, etc.) with setup
  like mine to behave like this or is it just my router setup?
 
  Regards,
  Sasa

 Made a mistake in the post:

 BUT if I move server from LAN to DMZ...
 should be
 BUT if I move server from DMZ to LAN...#


 Sasa



If you mean that bandwidth between 2 boxes on
one switch is higher than that between 2 boxes
connected to different NICs on some server, then
that's absolutely normal and expected. No server
can match the speed of a Cisco, and no Cisco can
match the speed of a cheap unmanaged switch.

If you mean that ftp client and ftp server are
connected to different NICs on the router in both
cases (30Mbit and 100Mbit transfers), it is
explainable, because traffic from DMZ to
LAN usually gets a closer look than that
from LAN to LAN. You might or might not get
better performance with FreeBSD as the router.
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Re: Speed question

2005-10-26 Thread Sasa Stupar



--On 26. oktober 2005 13:11 +0400 Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 10/26/05, Sasa Stupar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



--On 26. oktober 2005 9:46 +0200 Sasa Stupar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi!

 I have on my LAN a server FBSD 5.4 on DMZ. The router is made of linux
 (yes I'll change it to FBSD ASAP) with 3 NIC: eth0 (inet), eth1 (LAN),
 eth2 (DMZ).
 Strange thing is that when server is on DMZ and I access it from the
 LAN with ftp client my transfer speed is 30 Mbit/s. The network itself
 is 100 Mbit. BUT if I move server from LAN to DMZ I have the max speed
 arround 100 Mbit/s.
 BTW: server in DMZ is connected directly to the NIC on router and on
 the LAN side I have all users connected on one switch which is
 connected to the router.

 Is this normall for all kinds of routers (linux, bsd, etc.) with setup
 like mine to behave like this or is it just my router setup?

 Regards,
 Sasa

Made a mistake in the post:

BUT if I move server from LAN to DMZ...
should be
BUT if I move server from DMZ to LAN...#


Sasa




If you mean that bandwidth between 2 boxes on
one switch is higher than that between 2 boxes
connected to different NICs on some server, then
that's absolutely normal and expected. No server
can match the speed of a Cisco, and no Cisco can
match the speed of a cheap unmanaged switch.

If you mean that ftp client and ftp server are
connected to different NICs on the router in both
cases (30Mbit and 100Mbit transfers), it is
explainable, because traffic from DMZ to
LAN usually gets a closer look than that
from LAN to LAN. You might or might not get
better performance with FreeBSD as the router.


Thank you for the explanation.

Sasa



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download speed question

2004-08-15 Thread ann kok
Hi all

Do you think there is different for the download speed
using wget in https and http?

If yes, ls it big different?

Thank you



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Re: download speed question

2004-08-15 Thread Bill Moran
ann kok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all
 
 Do you think there is different for the download speed
 using wget in https and http?

Yes.  http is less overhead, thus faster.

 If yes, ls it big different?

No.  Unless you have a very old computer that is very slow to do the
encrypting/decrypting.

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Re: download speed question

2004-08-15 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 04:44:42AM -0700, ann kok wrote:
 Hi all
 
 Do you think there is different for the download speed
 using wget in https and http?
 
 If yes, ls it big different?
 
 Thank you

I would think that https would generally be slower due to the overhead
of encryption.  How much slower I couldn't say.

Nathan
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Vinum RAID5 speed question

2003-09-26 Thread Martin Brecher
Hi, -

I plan on setting up a vinum RAID5 array of three 120GB IDE disks. The 
disks will be attached to two Promise 100 TX2 controllers, on which two 
other disks are residing, too.

The following questions have come to my mind:

1. I thought about getting disks with 8MB cache. Does the bigger cache 
size affect performance in a RAID5 scenario?

2. Currently I'm running a RAID5 with 4 older 5400rpm disks in that 
machine, and write speeds are around 3MB/s. I guess that several people 
here are running vinum RAID5 with current IDE disks, so what throughput 
can I expect from the new planned setup?

3. The volume is meant for storing all kinds of files with all kinds of 
sizes. My current setup has a blocksize of 489kb. From other people's 
experience, what blocksize might bring the best results for such general 
purpose?

4. Any other advice would be welcome, of course. :-)

Thanks,
Martin
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Re: Vinum RAID5 speed question

2003-09-26 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday, 26 September 2003 at 13:22:09 +0200, Martin Brecher wrote:
 Hi, -

 I plan on setting up a vinum RAID5 array of three 120GB IDE disks. The
 disks will be attached to two Promise 100 TX2 controllers, on which two
 other disks are residing, too.

 The following questions have come to my mind:

 1. I thought about getting disks with 8MB cache. Does the bigger cache
 size affect performance in a RAID5 scenario?

Possibly.

 2. Currently I'm running a RAID5 with 4 older 5400rpm disks in that
 machine, and write speeds are around 3MB/s. I guess that several people
 here are running vinum RAID5 with current IDE disks, so what throughput
 can I expect from the new planned setup?

Difficult to say.  Possibly a little more.

 3. The volume is meant for storing all kinds of files with all kinds of
 sizes. My current setup has a blocksize of 489kb. From other people's
 experience, what blocksize might bring the best results for such general
 purpose?

That probably bases on a recommendation I made some years ago, before
people pointed out the errors of my ways.  You'll get fractionally
(and possibly not measurably) better performance if the stripe size is
a multiple of the block size.  Since that's 16 kB nowadays, a stripe
size of 496 kB might be better.
 
 4. Any other advice would be welcome, of course. :-)

Well, the obvious one is that RAID-5 is not intended for writing :-)

Greg
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