Re: State of Packages

2013-04-06 Thread Walter Hurry
On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:57:57 -0400, doug wrote:

 My questions: Does/will pkgng work? Are 9.1 packages on the ISO images?
 I am in the progess of answering that one for myself but had some time
 on my hands during the download :)

Prebuilt packages are on the way apparently, but I have made my own 
repository anyway for the 600-odd packages which I and my users need - 
thus I compile from ports once only (all are 9.1-RELEASE x86_64).

It works well, and is not difficult.

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Re: State of Packages

2013-04-06 Thread Joshua Isom

On 4/5/2013 7:51 AM, Walter Hurry wrote:

On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:57:57 -0400, doug wrote:


My questions: Does/will pkgng work? Are 9.1 packages on the ISO images?
I am in the progess of answering that one for myself but had some time
on my hands during the download :)


Prebuilt packages are on the way apparently, but I have made my own
repository anyway for the 600-odd packages which I and my users need -
thus I compile from ports once only (all are 9.1-RELEASE x86_64).

It works well, and is not difficult.



I've been using FreeBSD since the summer of 2005, I still have the first 
cd-r I used.  The fact that it's so easy makes me wonder why it hasn't 
been done yet.  It's been almost five months.  I used the repository, 
but I'm working on my own now that I have plenty of ram to do it.  In 
the time since then, every FreeBSD machine could have updated from 
source the base and all packages.  The ports tree is still updated, the 
source tree is still updated, so both should be presumed to be safe. 
Recently the FreeBSD website had some downtime from using -CURRENT, and 
apache hasn't been taken offline for five months, and aren't those two 
things all you really need to distribute ports?

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Re: State of Packages

2013-04-06 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 15:25:42 -0500
Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been using FreeBSD since the summer of 2005, I still have the first 
 cd-r I used.  The fact that it's so easy makes me wonder why it hasn't 
 been done yet.  It's been almost five months.

It's easy to build a repository, it's hard to build a secure public
repository.

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Re: State of Packages

2013-04-06 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 22:02:38 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:

 On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 15:25:42 -0500 Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've been using FreeBSD since the summer of 2005, I still have the
 first cd-r I used.  The fact that it's so easy makes me wonder why it
 hasn't been done yet.  It's been almost five months.
 
   It's easy to build a repository, it's hard to build a secure 
public
 repository.

Agreed; that's why I haven't attempted to do so. Also, I only build 
packages for the 600 or so packages in which I am interested, and only 
for the FreeBSD version in use, and only for the specific CPU 
architecture.

Maybe Joshua is overlooking something.

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Re: State of Packages

2013-04-06 Thread Joshua Isom

On 4/6/2013 7:56 PM, Walter Hurry wrote:


Agreed; that's why I haven't attempted to do so. Also, I only build
packages for the 600 or so packages in which I am interested, and only
for the FreeBSD version in use, and only for the specific CPU
architecture.

Maybe Joshua is overlooking something.



I've got poudriere up and running to simplify things for me now, but 
with the collective knowledge and willpower of the FreeBSD project, I'm 
surprised it's taken so long.  I understand securing a server isn't 
trivial, but after five months, there's nothing public about how long it 
will take or why it's taken so long.

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State of Packages

2013-04-04 Thread doug

Its seems certain that pkg_add is not [going to] be[ing] restored.

Index of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/9.1-RELEASE/

NameSizeLast Modified
File:MANIFEST   1 KB12/04/12 10:10:00
File:base.txz   58452 KB12/04/12 10:09:00
File:doc.txz1410 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00
File:games.txz  1092 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00
File:kernel.txz 56686 KB12/04/12 10:10:00
File:lib32.txz  9516 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00
File:ports.txz  85867 KB12/04/12 10:10:00
File:src.txz94190 KB12/04/12 10:10:00

This pretty much invalidates 5.4 of the handbook.

My questions: Does/will pkgng work? Are 9.1 packages on the ISO images? I am in 
the progess of answering that one for myself but had some time on my hands 
during the download :)


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Re: State of Packages

2013-04-04 Thread Bryan Drewery
On 4/4/2013 1:57 PM, d...@safeport.com wrote:
 Its seems certain that pkg_add is not [going to] be[ing] restored.

Progress is being made on providing pkg_add and pkgng packages again.
They will come back.

 
 Index of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/9.1-RELEASE/
 
 Name Size Last Modified
 File:MANIFEST 1 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00
 File:base.txz 58452 KB 12/04/12 10:09:00
 File:doc.txz 1410 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00
 File:games.txz 1092 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00
 File:kernel.txz 56686 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00
 File:lib32.txz 9516 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00
 File:ports.txz 85867 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00
 File:src.txz 94190 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00
 
 This pretty much invalidates 5.4 of the handbook.
 
 My questions: Does/will pkgng work? Are 9.1 packages on the ISO images?
 I am in the progess of answering that one for myself but had some time
 on my hands during the download :)
 
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Re: State of Packages

2013-04-04 Thread Mark Blackman

On 4 Apr 2013, at 21:21, Bryan Drewery bdrew...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On 4/4/2013 1:57 PM, d...@safeport.com wrote:
 Its seems certain that pkg_add is not [going to] be[ing] restored.
 
 Progress is being made on providing pkg_add and pkgng packages again.
 They will come back.


For those who might be interested in an interim solution, we've set up 
an unofficial but public pkgng format repository at

http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng

To use these packages, just set your PACKAGESITE variable in
/usr/local/etc/pkg.conf like so,

PACKAGESITE  : http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng/${ABI}/latest

These have FreeBSD 8, 9 and 10, i386 and amd64 kernel pkgng format packages
for the whole ports tree, build failures notwithstanding.

You'll have to explicitly make the decision to trust or not these
builds, of course, but all are welcome to use them until the official
ones are available.

- Mark
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Re: State of Packages

2013-04-04 Thread doug

On Thu, 4 Apr 2013, Mark Blackman wrote:


On 4 Apr 2013, at 21:21, Bryan Drewery bdrew...@freebsd.org wrote:


On 4/4/2013 1:57 PM, d...@safeport.com wrote:

Its seems certain that pkg_add is not [going to] be[ing] restored.


Progress is being made on providing pkg_add and pkgng packages again.
They will come back.



For those who might be interested in an interim solution, we've set up
an unofficial but public pkgng format repository at

http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng

To use these packages, just set your PACKAGESITE variable in
/usr/local/etc/pkg.conf like so,

PACKAGESITE  : http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng/${ABI}/latest

These have FreeBSD 8, 9 and 10, i386 and amd64 kernel pkgng format packages
for the whole ports tree, build failures notwithstanding.

You'll have to explicitly make the decision to trust or not these
builds, of course, but all are welcome to use them until the official
ones are available.


Thank you

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