Re: Thunderbird + Mozilla Suite

2006-03-16 Thread Andrey V. Semyonov

Duane Whitty wrote:
Strange things... When launched from xterm (or directly from my WM's 
button) /usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla starts mozilla binary normally.


But after such a reconfiguration of TB when I try to open any link in 
TB it prints /usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla: Cannot find mozilla binary 
executable. Exiting. into terminal from X is launched.

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I am not sure why it is doing that.  Please, do not take offense but 
have you checked

to make sure you did not make any typographical mistakes.
Another point to consider is that /usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla is probably not 
the actual mozilla
binary but rather a shell script to start the browser.  Maybe you can 
find out what the actual
binary is called.  It is probably similar to mozilla-bin, moz-bin, etc.  
Actually it will be mentioned

in the script but beware though that calling it directly may not work.
Yes, that's a script. And a strange bug was actually in it. I've 
commented out some checks in it and now it works fine. So, thanks a lot 
for help.


(Aside:  I thought the mozilla-suite built in email program was 
essentially thunderbird?
I hope I was correct when I assumed you were using mozilla and not 
firefox?)


No, Mozilla Suit's mail programm is named 'mozilla-mail'. It's heir by 
some shared code is Thunderbird (that's already explained yesterday). 
Thunderbird's feature of RSS-reading is the most necessary feature that 
caused me to use it (mozilla-mail can't read RSS-feeds). But as I 
understand, Thunderbird is mostly compat-ed to Firefox and some kind of 
moved away from Mozilla Suite project. That's why we have to do tricks 
to make these same-family projects do well together now.

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Re: Thunderbird + Mozilla Suite

2006-03-16 Thread Duane Whitty

Andrey V. Semyonov wrote:

Duane Whitty wrote:
Strange things... When launched from xterm (or directly from my WM's 
button) /usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla starts mozilla binary normally.


But after such a reconfiguration of TB when I try to open any link 
in TB it prints /usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla: Cannot find mozilla binary 
executable. Exiting. into terminal from X is launched.

___
I am not sure why it is doing that.  Please, do not take offense but 
have you checked

to make sure you did not make any typographical mistakes.
Another point to consider is that /usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla is probably 
not the actual mozilla
binary but rather a shell script to start the browser.  Maybe you can 
find out what the actual
binary is called.  It is probably similar to mozilla-bin, moz-bin, 
etc.  Actually it will be mentioned

in the script but beware though that calling it directly may not work.
Yes, that's a script. And a strange bug was actually in it. I've 
commented out some checks in it and now it works fine. So, thanks a 
lot for help.


(Aside:  I thought the mozilla-suite built in email program was 
essentially thunderbird?
I hope I was correct when I assumed you were using mozilla and not 
firefox?)


No, Mozilla Suit's mail programm is named 'mozilla-mail'. It's heir by 
some shared code is Thunderbird (that's already explained yesterday). 
Thunderbird's feature of RSS-reading is the most necessary feature 
that caused me to use it (mozilla-mail can't read RSS-feeds). But as I 
understand, Thunderbird is mostly compat-ed to Firefox and some kind 
of moved away from Mozilla Suite project. That's why we have to do 
tricks to make these same-family projects do well together now.

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Thanks for the follow up and for the clarification regarding 
Mozilla-mail and Thunderbird.


--Duane
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Re: Thunderbird + Mozilla Suite

2006-03-15 Thread Andrey V. Semyonov

Duane Whitty wrote:

If you did not find an entry named
network.protocol-handler.app.http then
right click on any entry under Preference Name.
Choose New, String.
When you are prompted for the new string type
network.protocol-handler.app.http
When you are prompted for the new value enter the path
of the mozilla web browser launcher.

Follow the same procedures as above to enable support for https.
Everywhere you typed http above type https instead.

I hope this helps.



Strange things... When launched from xterm (or directly from my WM's 
button) /usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla starts mozilla binary normally.


But after such a reconfiguration of TB when I try to open any link in TB 
it prints /usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla: Cannot find mozilla binary 
executable. Exiting. into terminal from X is launched.

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Re: Thunderbird + Mozilla Suite

2006-03-15 Thread Duane Whitty

Andrey V. Semyonov wrote:

Duane Whitty wrote:

If you did not find an entry named
network.protocol-handler.app.http then
right click on any entry under Preference Name.
Choose New, String.
When you are prompted for the new string type
network.protocol-handler.app.http
When you are prompted for the new value enter the path
of the mozilla web browser launcher.

Follow the same procedures as above to enable support for https.
Everywhere you typed http above type https instead.

I hope this helps.



Strange things... When launched from xterm (or directly from my WM's 
button) /usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla starts mozilla binary normally.


But after such a reconfiguration of TB when I try to open any link in 
TB it prints /usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla: Cannot find mozilla binary 
executable. Exiting. into terminal from X is launched.

___
I am not sure why it is doing that.  Please, do not take offense but 
have you checked

to make sure you did not make any typographical mistakes.
Another point to consider is that /usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla is probably not 
the actual mozilla
binary but rather a shell script to start the browser.  Maybe you can 
find out what the actual
binary is called.  It is probably similar to mozilla-bin, moz-bin, etc.  
Actually it will be mentioned

in the script but beware though that calling it directly may not work.

(Aside:  I thought the mozilla-suite built in email program was 
essentially thunderbird?

I hope I was correct when I assumed you were using mozilla and not firefox?)

As I don't have mozilla installed I am not sure how much more useful I 
can be to you, sorry.

Maybe someone from the list with mozilla and thunderbird installed can help?

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Re: Thunderbird + Mozilla Suite

2006-03-15 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Duane Whitty wrote:

(Aside:  I thought the mozilla-suite built in email program was 
essentially thunderbird?
I hope I was correct when I assumed you were using mozilla and not 
firefox?)


A bit OT, but you asked :-)  AFAIK, Mozilla's email and Thunderbird 
share some kind of underlying codebase but at the very least the 
look-and-feels are quite different.  Having said that, I use mozilla 
mail daily with nary a hiccup, but the last time I tried Thunderbird 
(say 6 months ago) all it did was core dump.  Couldn't reply to an 
email, couldn't browse large folders and I gave up at that point.  So, 
while at some level they may be the same, at least in the past they 
were different enough to matter.


Mozilla mail and Thunderbird do not share executables; it's just the 
source that the executables are compiled from should be somewhat shared.


hth,

--Alex

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Re: Thunderbird + Mozilla Suite

2006-03-15 Thread Chandan Haldar

I routinely use firefox 1.0.7 and thunderbird 1.0.6 on FreeBSD
6.0 Release (both built from the ports in the ISO images).  They
work quite nicely together.  Clicking URLs in mails in thunderbird
brings up the page in firefox in a new tab.  Clicking mailto: links
in a webpage in firefox opens a mail composer window in thunderbird.
If the other program isn't running already, it's started automatically.

I didn't do anything special to tell firefox and thunderbird about
each other.  As far as I could see during the build process, they
have a whole lot of common code of the mozilla platform, but these
are bundled independently in each source tarball and built separately
by each one with no shared binaries anywhere during the build process.

The installations seem to be located differently for firefox and for
thunderbird in the following directories respectively:

/usr/X11R6/lib/thunderbird/lib/thunderbird-1.0.6/
and
/usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/

I could be wrong, but this suggests to me that I can probably
install thunderbird 1.5 without clobbering my thunderbird 1.0.6
installation, while installing firefox 1.5 will probably clobber
my firefox 1.0.7 installation.  In any case my 1.5 builds fail.

Chandan


Alex Zbyslaw wrote:

Duane Whitty wrote:

(Aside:  I thought the mozilla-suite built in email program was 
essentially thunderbird?
I hope I was correct when I assumed you were using mozilla and not 
firefox?)



A bit OT, but you asked :-)  AFAIK, Mozilla's email and Thunderbird 
share some kind of underlying codebase but at the very least the 
look-and-feels are quite different.  Having said that, I use mozilla 
mail daily with nary a hiccup, but the last time I tried Thunderbird 
(say 6 months ago) all it did was core dump.  Couldn't reply to an 
email, couldn't browse large folders and I gave up at that point.  So, 
while at some level they may be the same, at least in the past they 
were different enough to matter.


Mozilla mail and Thunderbird do not share executables; it's just the 
source that the executables are compiled from should be somewhat shared.

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Re: Thunderbird + Mozilla Suite

2006-03-15 Thread Chandan Haldar

By the way, just in case someone is interested, I also could
set up to use the same mail folders in thunderbird and the
same bookmarks in firefox irrespective of whether I use these
programs under FreeBSD or Windoze.  Setting a few links in
my home dir in FreeBSD is all that it takes with my Windows
partitions mounted as msdosfs.  I find this a VERY useful
thing since my system is primarily a desktop and I sometimes
cannot avoid running Windows, but still want to see the same
bookmarks and mail folders.  Can post more details if anyone
needs it.

Chandan


Chandan Haldar wrote:

I routinely use firefox 1.0.7 and thunderbird 1.0.6 on FreeBSD
6.0 Release (both built from the ports in the ISO images).  They
work quite nicely together.  Clicking URLs in mails in thunderbird
brings up the page in firefox in a new tab.  Clicking mailto: links
in a webpage in firefox opens a mail composer window in thunderbird.
If the other program isn't running already, it's started automatically.

I didn't do anything special to tell firefox and thunderbird about
each other.  As far as I could see during the build process, they
have a whole lot of common code of the mozilla platform, but these
are bundled independently in each source tarball and built separately
by each one with no shared binaries anywhere during the build process.

The installations seem to be located differently for firefox and for
thunderbird in the following directories respectively:

/usr/X11R6/lib/thunderbird/lib/thunderbird-1.0.6/
and
/usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/

I could be wrong, but this suggests to me that I can probably
install thunderbird 1.5 without clobbering my thunderbird 1.0.6
installation, while installing firefox 1.5 will probably clobber
my firefox 1.0.7 installation.  In any case my 1.5 builds fail.

Chandan

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Re: Thunderbird + Mozilla Suite

2006-03-15 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Duane Whitty wrote:

Andrey V. Semyonov wrote:

Is it possible and what docs do describe setting a mozilla-bin from 
Mozilla Suite as URL-browser in Thunderbird?


Mozilla Suite and Thunderbird are installed from ports.
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Hi Andrey,

Yes it is possible.  The first step is to check if the
proper configuration entry is present.

In Thunderbird, from the menu bar, choose
Edit, Preferences, Advanced, Config Editor.


What version of Thunderbird do you have? I have 1.0.7 and I don't have a 
Config Editor. I would really like to implement this.


Thanks

Chris
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Re: Thunderbird + Mozilla Suite

2006-03-15 Thread Duane Whitty

Chris Whitehouse wrote:

Duane Whitty wrote:

Andrey V. Semyonov wrote:

Is it possible and what docs do describe setting a mozilla-bin from 
Mozilla Suite as URL-browser in Thunderbird?


Mozilla Suite and Thunderbird are installed from ports.
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Hi Andrey,

Yes it is possible.  The first step is to check if the
proper configuration entry is present.

In Thunderbird, from the menu bar, choose
Edit, Preferences, Advanced, Config Editor.


What version of Thunderbird do you have? I have 1.0.7 and I don't have 
a Config Editor. I would really like to implement this.


Thanks

Chris
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I have Mozilla Thunderbird version 1.5 (20060309)

--Dune
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Thunderbird + Mozilla Suite

2006-03-14 Thread Andrey V. Semyonov
Is it possible and what docs do describe setting a mozilla-bin from 
Mozilla Suite as URL-browser in Thunderbird?


Mozilla Suite and Thunderbird are installed from ports.
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Re: Thunderbird + Mozilla Suite

2006-03-14 Thread Duane Whitty

Andrey V. Semyonov wrote:
Is it possible and what docs do describe setting a mozilla-bin from 
Mozilla Suite as URL-browser in Thunderbird?


Mozilla Suite and Thunderbird are installed from ports.
___

Hi Andrey,

Yes it is possible.  The first step is to check if the
proper configuration entry is present.

In Thunderbird, from the menu bar, choose
Edit, Preferences, Advanced, Config Editor.
In the filter bar, type
network.protocol-handler
Check the entries under Preference Name for
network.protocol-handler.app.http
If it is there right click on it and choose modify
Now enter the path to the file which launches the browser
you want to use.  For a mozilla related program it is probably
under /usr/X11R6/bin/

For example, the Mozilla Firefox  launcher is
found at /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox

(sorry, I'm running firefox right now so I can not say
with absolute certainty where the mozilla-suite binary
is located)

If you did not find an entry named
network.protocol-handler.app.http then
right click on any entry under Preference Name.
Choose New, String.
When you are prompted for the new string type
network.protocol-handler.app.http
When you are prompted for the new value enter the path
of the mozilla web browser launcher.

Follow the same procedures as above to enable support for https.
Everywhere you typed http above type https instead.

I hope this helps.

--Duane Whitty
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