Re: Typical Network Performance

2010-08-21 Thread Jason C. Wells

On 08/08/10 22:10, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:

Jason C. Wellsj...@speakeasy.net  wrote:
   

By process of elimination (swap cables, swap ports, try different
host pairs) I was able to discover that a single server on my home
LAN was getting about 1.6% performance compared to other servers
getting 94%
 

...
   

What would be the next step to figuring out why this host's network
performance is slow?
 

My next step would be to check whether this host and its hub/switch
port agree on speed and duplex -- occasionally some combination
of netcard phy and switch type gets the negotiation wrong.  Duplex
mismatch, in particular, can have huge performance impact.
   


I needed a windows utility to connect to my switch.  Instead I just 
added a realtek NIC to my server to replace the Marvell on-board NIC.  
After this, network load using 'nc' to pipe 1MiB gives 98% transfer 
rate.  Even though I don't know what the problem was, I consider the 
problem solved.  Thanks.


Jason
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Re: Typical Network Performance

2010-08-08 Thread Jason C. Wells
Seems like someone else got their question answered, but I was able to 
make use of the tips that were provided.  win-win.  Thanks for the pointers.


By process of elimination (swap cables, swap ports, try different host 
pairs) I was able to discover that a single server on my home LAN was 
getting about 1.6% performance compared to other servers getting 94% 
performance using the 'dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1 | nc servername 
2000' technique. netstat -I on the errant server reports no errors.


What would be the next step to figuring out why this host's network 
performance is slow?


Regards,
Jason C. Wells
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Re: Typical Network Performance

2010-08-08 Thread perryh
Jason C. Wells j...@speakeasy.net wrote:
 By process of elimination (swap cables, swap ports, try different
 host pairs) I was able to discover that a single server on my home
 LAN was getting about 1.6% performance compared to other servers
 getting 94%
...
 What would be the next step to figuring out why this host's network
 performance is slow?

My next step would be to check whether this host and its hub/switch
port agree on speed and duplex -- occasionally some combination
of netcard phy and switch type gets the negotiation wrong.  Duplex
mismatch, in particular, can have huge performance impact.
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Re: Typical Network Performance

2010-08-02 Thread Lokadamus

Am 01.08.2010 23:18, schrieb Jason C. Wells:
I have a 100 mbps (12,207 KiB/s) home LAN in full-duplex.  A 1 MiB 
file transfers at 146.7 KiB/s via wput.  The same file transfers at 
91.34 KiB/s via samba.  That's less than 1% of available transfer 
rate.  Seems like my transfers are slow.  I do better than that when 
installing via the internet.


Does the FTP performance compared to available bandwidth seem right?  
Is the relative performance of samba to FTP right?  I read a couple 
quick links on the net which said, It's complicated.


Thanks,
Jason C. Wells
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Which networkcard is built in?
Do you copy via IP oder DNS?
Can you ping your PCs with name?
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Re: Typical Network Performance

2010-08-02 Thread David Kelly

On Aug 1, 2010, at 11:31 PM, Corey Smith wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:30 PM, David Kelly dke...@hiwaay.net wrote:
 Gigabit ethernet from a 2.8 GHz P4 to or from MacPro I am only limited by 
 disk data rate. About 60 MB/sec on one end of the disk, more on the other 
 end of the disk.
 
 Did you try realtime monitoring your network interface?
 
 # route -n get remoteip
 interface: yourinterface
 
 # netstat -I yourinterface -w 1

No. I saw numbers that I was reasonably happy with and didn't pursue further.

 Do you see errors on the interface?

Nope. 60 MB/sec via FTP is about 60% of gigabit and was faster than some disk 
accesses.

 # netstat -I yourinterface
 
 Another trick to eliminate disk io from the equation is to use nc:
 
 machine1 freebsd:
 # nc -o -l 2000  /dev/null
 
 machine2:
 # dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=50 | nc machine1 2000

60 MB/sec was the average over gigabytes of data. Real data. Real network wire.

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Typical Network Performance

2010-08-01 Thread Jason C. Wells
I have a 100 mbps (12,207 KiB/s) home LAN in full-duplex.  A 1 MiB file 
transfers at 146.7 KiB/s via wput.  The same file transfers at 91.34 
KiB/s via samba.  That's less than 1% of available transfer rate.  Seems 
like my transfers are slow.  I do better than that when installing via 
the internet.


Does the FTP performance compared to available bandwidth seem right?  Is 
the relative performance of samba to FTP right?  I read a couple quick 
links on the net which said, It's complicated.


Thanks,
Jason C. Wells
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Re: Typical Network Performance

2010-08-01 Thread David Brodbeck


On Aug 1, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Jason C. Wells wrote:

I have a 100 mbps (12,207 KiB/s) home LAN in full-duplex.  A 1 MiB  
file transfers at 146.7 KiB/s via wput.  The same file transfers at  
91.34 KiB/s via samba.  That's less than 1% of available transfer  
rate.  Seems like my transfers are slow.  I do better than that when  
installing via the internet.


Does the FTP performance compared to available bandwidth seem  
right?  Is the relative performance of samba to FTP right?  I read a  
couple quick links on the net which said, It's complicated.


Those figures do  seem a little low.  Some stuff to check:

Are transfers in one direction a lot faster than transfers in the  
other?  If so, the machines and the network switch may not all be  
agreeing on the duplex mode.  Auto-negotiation sometimes fails and can  
lead to a lot of silent collisions, slowing things down dramatically.


How about the disk you're transferring from? Is it limiting the speed?  
Those figures would be fairly normal for a USB 1.0 drive, for example.


Are you sure all the machines involved are operating at 100 mbps?   
I've seen them silently fall back to 10 when there's a bad cable  
involved.


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Re: Typical Network Performance

2010-08-01 Thread David Kelly

On Aug 1, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Jason C. Wells wrote:

 I have a 100 mbps (12,207 KiB/s) home LAN in full-duplex.  A 1 MiB file 
 transfers at 146.7 KiB/s via wput.  The same file transfers at 91.34 KiB/s 
 via samba.  That's less than 1% of available transfer rate.  Seems like my 
 transfers are slow.  I do better than that when installing via the internet.
 
 Does the FTP performance compared to available bandwidth seem right?  Is the 
 relative performance of samba to FTP right?  I read a couple quick links on 
 the net which said, It's complicated.

Gigabit ethernet from a 2.8 GHz P4 to or from MacPro I am only limited by disk 
data rate. About 60 MB/sec on one end of the disk, more on the other end of the 
disk. 

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Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.



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Re: Typical Network Performance

2010-08-01 Thread Corey Smith
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:30 PM, David Kelly dke...@hiwaay.net wrote:
 Gigabit ethernet from a 2.8 GHz P4 to or from MacPro I am only limited by 
 disk data rate. About 60 MB/sec on one end of the disk, more on the other end 
 of the disk.

Did you try realtime monitoring your network interface?

# route -n get remoteip
interface: yourinterface

# netstat -I yourinterface -w 1

Do you see errors on the interface?

# netstat -I yourinterface

Another trick to eliminate disk io from the equation is to use nc:

machine1 freebsd:
# nc -o -l 2000  /dev/null

machine2:
# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=50 | nc machine1 2000

-Corey Smith
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