Re: UFS2 Snapshot limitiations

2007-03-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar


I seem to recall, but cannot find, the limitation on the number of
snapshots allowed on UFS2.  Could someone point me in the right


theoretically 20 snapshots. really - a few, as system gets
MUCH slower on partition with many snapshots.
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UFS2 Snapshot limitiations

2007-03-13 Thread Doug Poland
Hello,

I seem to recall, but cannot find, the limitation on the number of
snapshots allowed on UFS2.  Could someone point me in the right
direction please?


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Re: UFS2 Snapshot limitiations

2007-03-13 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Doug Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello,
 
 I seem to recall, but cannot find, the limitation on the number of
 snapshots allowed on UFS2.  Could someone point me in the right
 direction please?

The handbook has it:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/snapshots.html

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Re: UFS2 Snapshot limitiations

2007-03-13 Thread Doug Poland

On Tue, March 13, 2007 10:10, Bill Moran wrote:
 In response to Doug Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello,

 I seem to recall, but cannot find, the limitation on the number of
 snapshots allowed on UFS2.  Could someone point me in the right
 direction please?

 The handbook has it:
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/snapshots.html

Thank you very much.

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Re: UFS2 Snapshot limitiations

2007-03-13 Thread Pietro Cerutti

On 3/13/07, Doug Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Tue, March 13, 2007 10:10, Bill Moran wrote:
 In response to Doug Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello,

 I seem to recall, but cannot find, the limitation on the number of
 snapshots allowed on UFS2.  Could someone point me in the right
 direction please?

 The handbook has it:
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/snapshots.html

Thank you very much.



Sorry for joining the thread, but it's raised my curiosity: what's the
reason for this limit?


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Thanx!

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Re: UFS2 Snapshot limitiations

2007-03-13 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Pietro Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 3/13/07, Doug Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Tue, March 13, 2007 10:10, Bill Moran wrote:
   In response to Doug Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   Hello,
  
   I seem to recall, but cannot find, the limitation on the number of
   snapshots allowed on UFS2.  Could someone point me in the right
   direction please?
  
   The handbook has it:
   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/snapshots.html
  
  Thank you very much.
 
 
 Sorry for joining the thread, but it's raised my curiosity: what's the
 reason for this limit?

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe it's because snapshot information is stored
in the filesystem superblock, and that's all that can fit in the space
available in the superblock.

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Re: UFS2 Snapshot limitiations

2007-03-13 Thread Pietro Cerutti

On 3/13/07, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In response to Pietro Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 3/13/07, Doug Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Tue, March 13, 2007 10:10, Bill Moran wrote:
   In response to Doug Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   Hello,
  
   I seem to recall, but cannot find, the limitation on the number of
   snapshots allowed on UFS2.  Could someone point me in the right
   direction please?
  
   The handbook has it:
   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/snapshots.html
  
  Thank you very much.
 

 Sorry for joining the thread, but it's raised my curiosity: what's the
 reason for this limit?

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe it's because snapshot information is stored
in the filesystem superblock, and that's all that can fit in the space
available in the superblock.


This is the same thing that came to my mind, but in the handbook page I found:
Active snapshots are recorded in the superblock so they are
persistent across unmount and remount operations along with system
reboots.

1) what an active snapshot is?
2) is that limit limited (...) to active snapshots?

Tnx


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Re: UFS2 Snapshot limitiations

2007-03-13 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Pietro Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 3/13/07, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In response to Pietro Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   On 3/13/07, Doug Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
On Tue, March 13, 2007 10:10, Bill Moran wrote:
 In response to Doug Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello,

 I seem to recall, but cannot find, the limitation on the number of
 snapshots allowed on UFS2.  Could someone point me in the right
 direction please?

 The handbook has it:
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/snapshots.html

Thank you very much.
   
  
   Sorry for joining the thread, but it's raised my curiosity: what's the
   reason for this limit?
 
  I'm not 100% sure, but I believe it's because snapshot information is stored
  in the filesystem superblock, and that's all that can fit in the space
  available in the superblock.
 
 This is the same thing that came to my mind, but in the handbook page I found:
 Active snapshots are recorded in the superblock so they are
 persistent across unmount and remount operations along with system
 reboots.
 
 1) what an active snapshot is?

I think you're trying too hard to read into this.  Active snapshot, as opposed
to a snapshot that has been deleted/unmounted and existed in the past, is what
I took it to mean.

Keep in mind that the existence of a snapshot mandates certain activity on
the part of the FFS drivers in order to keep that snapshot's data valid.
Thus, any snapshot is active as long as it exists.  In other words, if
you delete a file from the filesystem while a snapshot is active, the FFS
drivers can not reclaim that space, as it would result in data loss within
the snapshot.

 2) is that limit limited (...) to active snapshots?

Sure.  I don't know what an inactive snapshot would be.

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Re: UFS2 Snapshot limitiations

2007-03-13 Thread Pietro Cerutti

On 3/13/07, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In response to Pietro Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 3/13/07, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In response to Pietro Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   On 3/13/07, Doug Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
On Tue, March 13, 2007 10:10, Bill Moran wrote:
 In response to Doug Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello,

 I seem to recall, but cannot find, the limitation on the number of
 snapshots allowed on UFS2.  Could someone point me in the right
 direction please?

 The handbook has it:
 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/snapshots.html

Thank you very much.
   
  
   Sorry for joining the thread, but it's raised my curiosity: what's the
   reason for this limit?
 
  I'm not 100% sure, but I believe it's because snapshot information is stored
  in the filesystem superblock, and that's all that can fit in the space
  available in the superblock.

 This is the same thing that came to my mind, but in the handbook page I found:
 Active snapshots are recorded in the superblock so they are
 persistent across unmount and remount operations along with system
 reboots.

 1) what an active snapshot is?

I think you're trying too hard to read into this.  Active snapshot, as opposed
to a snapshot that has been deleted/unmounted and existed in the past, is what
I took it to mean.


Makes sense.

Thanks!



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