Re: User Monitoring

2007-02-08 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 14:09:55 +0800
David Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 i would like to provide a SSH Login for selected people on a  
 dedicated Machine, to be a little bit of a playground to some who  
 dont have any Unix experience and so on.
 
 Without a doubt i will get the one or the other trying to do  
 something nasty to the Box, so my question is how to keep track of  
 what Users are doing? Using process accounting as described http:// 
 www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security- 
 accounting.html in the handbook?
 
 Can you share some easy to implement tricks to keep the worst from  
 happening to my Machine?

Hello :)
I think you really have 2 issues : 
1) how to prevent them breaking havoc on your machine.
2) how to know what they are doing.

2) : answered on the other posts.

1) normal users shouldn't have access to break many things (nothing system
related actually)..but, since paranoid we must be, why not just install a jail
(or set of jails if you want to provide for maximum separation) and give them
access to the jails ? They'll be able to do most stuff a newbie would do (and
an advanced user too :) ) , and u can even give them root in the jail :).

Best,


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Re: User Monitoring

2007-02-06 Thread Bill Moran
In response to David Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello all,
 
 i would like to provide a SSH Login for selected people on a  
 dedicated Machine, to be a little bit of a playground to some who  
 dont have any Unix experience and so on.
 
 Without a doubt i will get the one or the other trying to do  
 something nasty to the Box, so my question is how to keep track of  
 what Users are doing? Using process accounting as described http:// 
 www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security- 
 accounting.html in the handbook?
 
 Can you share some easy to implement tricks to keep the worst from  
 happening to my Machine?

Have a look at security/sudosh ... it won't prevent anything, but it
will allow you to monitor what folks do.

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Collaborative Fusion Inc.
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Re: User Monitoring

2007-02-06 Thread Kelly D. Grills
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 02:09:55PM +0800, David Schulz wrote:
 
 Without a doubt i will get the one or the other trying to do  
 something nasty to the Box, so my question is how to keep track of  
 what Users are doing? Using process accounting as described http:// 
 www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security- 
 accounting.html in the handbook?
 
 Can you share some easy to implement tricks to keep the worst from  
 happening to my Machine?

See the man page for WATCH(8),  watch -- snoop on another tty line

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Re: User Monitoring

2007-02-06 Thread Kelly D. Grills
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 06:31:40PM -0600, Kelly D. Grills wrote:
 
 On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 02:09:55PM +0800, David Schulz wrote:
  
  Without a doubt i will get the one or the other trying to do  
  something nasty to the Box, so my question is how to keep track of  
  what Users are doing? Using process accounting as described http:// 
  www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security- 
  accounting.html in the handbook?
  
  Can you share some easy to implement tricks to keep the worst from  
  happening to my Machine?
 
 See the man page for WATCH(8),  watch -- snoop on another tty line
 

And be sure to let your users know that you are keeping track of them.

Sorry for the multi-reply, fingers got ahead of brain.

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User Monitoring

2007-02-05 Thread David Schulz

Hello all,

i would like to provide a SSH Login for selected people on a  
dedicated Machine, to be a little bit of a playground to some who  
dont have any Unix experience and so on.


Without a doubt i will get the one or the other trying to do  
something nasty to the Box, so my question is how to keep track of  
what Users are doing? Using process accounting as described http:// 
www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security- 
accounting.html in the handbook?


Can you share some easy to implement tricks to keep the worst from  
happening to my Machine?


Thanks,
David
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