Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3

2004-12-24 Thread Martin Hepworth
I did it on a 5.2.1 machine and loaded Exim from the ports tree. That
gives full instructions on what to turn off/on in the rc.conf and a
little rc script to start exim at boot.

What's not working?

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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:47:15 -0800, comm/JT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to
 fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and
 seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated
 document.
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3

2004-12-24 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
comm/JT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to
 fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and
 seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated
 document.

In my experience, it should be pretty straightforward. There are a
couple of things which are not done automagically by the port, IIRC -

* adding the lines 

  exim_enable=YES
  sendmail_enable=NONE

  to /etc/rc.conf 

* editing /etc/mail/mailer.conf to read something like

  sendmail  /usr/local/sbin/exim
  send-mail /usr/local/sbin/exim
  mailq /usr/local/sbin/exim -bp
  newaliases/usr/bin/true
  hoststat/usr/local/sbin/sendmail
  purgestat   /usr/local/sbin/sendmail

* killing the sendmail daemon and starting exim (use
  /usr/local/etc/rc.d/exim.sh start to start exim)

There may be a few other things you need to do, but the port tends to
remind you of such things along the way. Running the install from a
script(1) session is useful too, just in case useful messages scroll off
the top of the screen too quickly. The port also supplies nice and
straightforward instructions to add spam and virus filtering to the
delivery process. Nice for those of us serving Microsoft desktops.

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Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3

2004-12-24 Thread Joshua Lokken
On 24 Dec 2004 11:33:53 +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 comm/JT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to
  fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and
  seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated
  document.
 
 In my experience, it should be pretty straightforward. There are a
 couple of things which are not done automagically by the port, IIRC -
 
 * adding the lines
 
  exim_enable=YES
  sendmail_enable=NONE
 
  to /etc/rc.conf

Although this is deprecated.  Please use the following rather
than sendmail_enable=NONE:

sendmail_enable=NO
sendmail_submit_enable=NO
sendmail_outbound_enable=NO
sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO 


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Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3

2004-12-24 Thread Joe Altman
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 10:31:40AM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote:
  comm/JT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to
   fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and
   seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated
   document.
snip
 
 Although this is deprecated.  Please use the following rather
 than sendmail_enable=NONE:
 
 sendmail_enable=NO
 sendmail_submit_enable=NO
 sendmail_outbound_enable=NO
 sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO 

Where do you see this:

sendmail_enable=NONE labelled as deprecated? That doesn't appear to
be the case, in the documentation I have accessed.

To the OP: the query you make is an FAQ, and the basic answers are in
the Exim documentation, with a specific section on FreeBSD. You can
find the answers by installing the HTML docs via the port, or at
exim.org. Do you have the docs for exim installed on your local
machine? The two questions you will likely need are 9201 and 9202, as
well as the handbook documentation telling you how to change your
MTA. That is in chapter 22.
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Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3

2004-12-24 Thread Joshua Lokken
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:17:57 -0500, Joe Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 10:31:40AM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote:
   comm/JT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation 
to
fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and
seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated
document.
 snip
 
  Although this is deprecated.  Please use the following rather
  than sendmail_enable=NONE:
 
  sendmail_enable=NO
  sendmail_submit_enable=NO
  sendmail_outbound_enable=NO
  sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO
 
 Where do you see this:
 
 sendmail_enable=NONE labelled as deprecated? That doesn't appear to
 be the case, in the documentation I have accessed.

I 'see this' in man rc.sendmail(8):

sendmail_enable
(str) If set to ``YES'', run the sendmail(8) daemon at system
boot time.  If set to ``NO'', do not run a sendmail(8) daemon to
listen for incoming network mail.   This does not preclude a
sendmail(8) daemon listening on the SMTP port of the loopback
interface.  The ``NONE'' option is deprecated and should not be
used.  It will be removed in a future release.


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Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3

2004-12-24 Thread Joe Altman
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 12:31:37PM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:17:57 -0500, Joe Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 10:31:40AM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote:
comm/JT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
 Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some 
 documentation to
 fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this 
 and
 seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and 
 outdated
 document.
  snip
  
   Although this is deprecated.  Please use the following rather
   than sendmail_enable=NONE:
  
   sendmail_enable=NO
   sendmail_submit_enable=NO
   sendmail_outbound_enable=NO
   sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO
  
  Where do you see this:
  
  sendmail_enable=NONE labelled as deprecated? That doesn't appear to
  be the case, in the documentation I have accessed.
 
 I 'see this' in man rc.sendmail(8):
 
 sendmail_enable
 (str) If set to ``YES'', run the sendmail(8) daemon at system
 boot time.  If set to ``NO'', do not run a sendmail(8) daemon to
 listen for incoming network mail. This does not preclude a
 sendmail(8) daemon listening on the SMTP port of the loopback
 interface.  The ``NONE'' option is deprecated and should not be
 used.  It will be removed in a future release.

You mean this man rc.sendmail?


RC.SENDMAIL(8)  FreeBSD System Manager's Manual

NAME
 rc.sendmail -- sendmail(8) startup script

DESCRIPTION
 The rc.sendmail script is used by /etc/rc at boot time to start
 sendmail(8).  It is meant to be sendmail(8) specific and not a
 generic script for all MTAs.

Contrast with the handbook entry, for changing the MTA for a given
machine:

22.4 Changing Your Mail Transfer Agent
22.4.4 Replacing sendmail as the System's Default Mailer

Which addresses the OPs original request, I think: ...some
documentation to fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine.

I don't interpret the NONE directive as deprecated, for the
mailer.conf wrapper, which is what should be used to ...fully
move... from sendmail to Exim, AFAICT.

man mailer.conf and man mailwrapper.
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Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3

2004-12-24 Thread Joshua Lokken
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:05:30 -0500, Joe Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 12:31:37PM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote:
  On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:17:57 -0500, Joe Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 10:31:40AM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote:
 comm/JT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some 
  documentation to
  fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried 
  this and
  seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and 
  outdated
  document.
   snip
   
Although this is deprecated.  Please use the following rather
than sendmail_enable=NONE:
   
sendmail_enable=NO
sendmail_submit_enable=NO
sendmail_outbound_enable=NO
sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO
  
   Where do you see this:
  
   sendmail_enable=NONE labelled as deprecated? That doesn't appear to
   be the case, in the documentation I have accessed.
 
  I 'see this' in man rc.sendmail(8):
 
  sendmail_enable
  (str) If set to ``YES'', run the sendmail(8) daemon at system
  boot time.  If set to ``NO'', do not run a sendmail(8) daemon to
  listen for incoming network mail. This does not preclude a
  sendmail(8) daemon listening on the SMTP port of the loopback
  interface.  The ``NONE'' option is deprecated and should not be
  used.  It will be removed in a future release.
 
 You mean this man rc.sendmail?
 
 RC.SENDMAIL(8)  FreeBSD System Manager's Manual

Yes, man rc.sendmail(8).  I guess I'm really not sure what your
malfunction is, Joe.  What do you not understand about
'deprecated' and 'will be removed in a future release'?  BTW, I
really don't care to discuss it any further; if you have any 
additional information for the OP, by all means, give it.
Otherwise, have a happy holiday, and drop it.


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FAQ: What constitutes an inappropriate posting? Was: Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3

2004-12-24 Thread Joe Altman
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 01:11:31PM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote:
 
 I guess I'm really not sure what your
 malfunction is, Joe.  What do you not understand about
 'deprecated' and 'will be removed in a future release'?  BTW, I
 really don't care to discuss it any further; if you have any 
 additional information for the OP, by all means, give it.
 Otherwise, have a happy holiday, and drop it.

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Using Exim with FBSD 5.3

2004-12-23 Thread comm/JT
Hello,

Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to
fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and
seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated
document.

Thanks!

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