Wester Digital 'deep recovery cycle' and gstripe?

2009-11-17 Thread Modulok
List,

Has anyone used 'Wester Digital Caviar Black' disks in a gstripe?

I'm building a 2TB gstripe, from 3x 1TB disks. My concern, is the
disks are 'consumer grade' disks. Western Digital mention not to use
them with a raid controller as they have a potential, 'deep recovery
cycle', which an last up to 2 minutes. This would theoretically result
in them being dropped from the array. Despite this, I've heard
successful uses of these disks via gmirror. (Granted, not the same as
gstripe). Again, in theory, if one disk enters a 'deep recovery cycle'
and is dropped from the array, and during that time another disks does
the same the array is toast, right?

Umm...what are the odds of this occurring? War stories? (The more I
type this out, the more it's starting to sound like a bad idea.)
Thoughts, ideas?
-Modulok-
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Re: Wester Digital 'deep recovery cycle' and gstripe?

2009-11-17 Thread Josef Grosch

Modulok wrote:

List,

Has anyone used 'Wester Digital Caviar Black' disks in a gstripe?

I'm building a 2TB gstripe, from 3x 1TB disks. My concern, is the
disks are 'consumer grade' disks. Western Digital mention not to use
them with a raid controller as they have a potential, 'deep recovery
cycle', which an last up to 2 minutes. This would theoretically result
in them being dropped from the array. Despite this, I've heard
successful uses of these disks via gmirror. (Granted, not the same as
gstripe). Again, in theory, if one disk enters a 'deep recovery cycle'
and is dropped from the array, and during that time another disks does
the same the array is toast, right?

Umm...what are the odds of this occurring? War stories? (The more I
type this out, the more it's starting to sound like a bad idea.)
Thoughts, ideas?
-Modulok-



YMMV, but. In the past I have not had good luck with Western Digital 
disks, they are 'consumer grade'. It has been my experience that Seagate 
drives hold up better.




My $0.02


Josef

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Re: Wester Digital 'deep recovery cycle' and gstripe?

2009-11-17 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote:

 List,

 Has anyone used 'Wester Digital Caviar Black' disks in a gstripe?

 I'm building a 2TB gstripe, from 3x 1TB disks. My concern, is the
 disks are 'consumer grade' disks. Western Digital mention not to use
 them with a raid controller as they have a potential, 'deep recovery
 cycle', which an last up to 2 minutes. This would theoretically result
 in them being dropped from the array. Despite this, I've heard
 successful uses of these disks via gmirror. (Granted, not the same as
 gstripe). Again, in theory, if one disk enters a 'deep recovery cycle'
 and is dropped from the array, and during that time another disks does
 the same the array is toast, right?

 Umm...what are the odds of this occurring? War stories? (The more I
 type this out, the more it's starting to sound like a bad idea.)
 Thoughts, ideas?
 -Modulok-

 In a stripe, if one goes it all goes.  However I am not certain it's an
issue in your case, the gstripe labeling mode with create a persistent
config.  If there's not a better answer, best thing to do would be to test
it out.  setting up gstripe takes like 10 minutes.


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Re: Wester Digital 'deep recovery cycle' and gstripe?

2009-11-17 Thread Modulok
Correction, it would be a graid3 setup. Sorry.

-Modulok-

On 11/17/09, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote:

 List,

 Has anyone used 'Wester Digital Caviar Black' disks in a gstripe?

 I'm building a 2TB gstripe, from 3x 1TB disks. My concern, is the
 disks are 'consumer grade' disks. Western Digital mention not to use
 them with a raid controller as they have a potential, 'deep recovery
 cycle', which an last up to 2 minutes. This would theoretically result
 in them being dropped from the array. Despite this, I've heard
 successful uses of these disks via gmirror. (Granted, not the same as
 gstripe). Again, in theory, if one disk enters a 'deep recovery cycle'
 and is dropped from the array, and during that time another disks does
 the same the array is toast, right?

 Umm...what are the odds of this occurring? War stories? (The more I
 type this out, the more it's starting to sound like a bad idea.)
 Thoughts, ideas?
 -Modulok-

 In a stripe, if one goes it all goes.  However I am not certain it's an
 issue in your case, the gstripe labeling mode with create a persistent
 config.  If there's not a better answer, best thing to do would be to test
 it out.  setting up gstripe takes like 10 minutes.


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Re: Wester Digital 'deep recovery cycle' and gstripe?

2009-11-17 Thread TJ Varghese
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote:
 List,

 Has anyone used 'Wester Digital Caviar Black' disks in a gstripe?

 I'm building a 2TB gstripe, from 3x 1TB disks. My concern, is the
 disks are 'consumer grade' disks. Western Digital mention not to use
 them with a raid controller as they have a potential, 'deep recovery
 cycle', which an last up to 2 minutes. This would theoretically result
 in them being dropped from the array. Despite this, I've heard
 successful uses of these disks via gmirror. (Granted, not the same as
 gstripe). Again, in theory, if one disk enters a 'deep recovery cycle'
 and is dropped from the array, and during that time another disks does
 the same the array is toast, right?

 Umm...what are the odds of this occurring? War stories? (The more I
 type this out, the more it's starting to sound like a bad idea.)
 Thoughts, ideas?
 -Modulok-

google for WDTLER.EXE. I've had good results setting the recovery time
to 7 seconds on the Caviar Greens  Blacks. FWIH, it only works up for
WD drives up to 1TB. WD's Raid Ed. drives have the above setting on by
default.
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