Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources?
On 2002-10-23 18:10, Gary W. Swearingen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The very simplistic answer is: a. Download all the files from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.7-RELEASE/src/ b. Run the install.sh script as root. Maybe they'd make a good src/README. I just took www.freebsd.org's Getting FreeBSD link. Perhaps. This is not a bad point altogether. I'm reading again some of the messages I have in my local mailbox. Apparently, a lot of people are thinking about src/README. In this particular case, it's probably a chicken and egg problem, since src/README cannot help one locate the sources, because it is part of the sources... But you're right at least in this; that there is a need for better documentation in Getting FreeBSD. The official sources for FreeBSD are available via anonymous FTP from: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/. Then you get to poke around a big directory tree until you blunder across releases/i386/4.7-RELEASE/src/. Our intrepid OP apparently managed to get that far, but was probably too worn down to try looking for and decyphering the install.sh script. I don't mind the occasional question. I'm glad that pointing him to the install.sh script did the trick, and now he probably has his sources downloaded with FTP. Giorgos. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources?
--- Wayne Lubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 08:17:02PM -0700, Wayne Lubin wrote: I am at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ and I see where the current and stable sources are, but where are the 4.7 release sources? Thanks. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.7-RELEASE Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message Hi, ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.7-RELEASE/src/ has funny looking files that end in .aa .aw and stuff like that. Where is the c code? Wayne __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources?
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 09:25:09AM -0700, Wayne Lubin wrote: Hi, ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.7-RELEASE/src/ has funny looking files that end in .aa .aw and stuff like that. Where is the c code? Those are pieces of a .tar.gz file..there are instructions (probably in the parent directory) about how to extract them. Alternatively, you can use one of the other methods described on the website to obtain source code. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html Kris msg05498/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources?
--- Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 09:22:45AM -0700, Wayne Lubin wrote: Hi, ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.7-RELEASE/src/ has funny looking files that end in .aa .aw and stuff like that. Where is the c code? Those are actually the c sources which /stand/sysinstall would download --- they are a series of tar(1) files split into chunks. You can grab all of those files and then run the install.sh script found in that directory to install the contents to /usr/src. The source code you'll get in this case is exactly the code used to build 4.7-RELEASE. However, that's a slightly unusual way of getting hold of the system sources. Typically nowadays to grab the sources wholesale you would install the net/cvsup port and use that to grab whatever sources you want from the FreeBSD cvs. See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html If you only want one or two files then go to http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/, where you can pull down any version of any file ever used to build FreeBSD. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK I am looking for the ftp server where I can ftp in and grab the sources and ports for 4.7 release in the same way you can with current by going to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/ and ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports/ After all, all cvsup, or cvs, or CTM does is go and updates your /usr/ports and /usr/src folder, and maybe your doc folder, doesn't it? In other words I am currently not interested in using cvsup, or CTM, or anything else. I am only interested in using ftp. Wayne __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources?
--- J.C.Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe something like this? ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/branches/4.0-stable/src/ ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/branches/4.0-stable/ports/ Good luck! Jason Hi, I am not quite sure I understand. If this is the ftp server that holds the 4.7 release sources, then why is it in a folder called 4.0-stable ? Wayne __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources?
Wayne Lubin wrote: I am not quite sure I understand. If this is the ftp server that holds the 4.7 release sources, then why is it in a folder called 4.0-stable ? Mailing lists are *not* the first place to go for help. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html -Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources?
--- Drew Raines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wayne Lubin wrote: I am not quite sure I understand. If this is the ftp server that holds the 4.7 release sources, then why is it in a folder called 4.0-stable ? Mailing lists are *not* the first place to go for help. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html -Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message I have already been to the references that you point out and they are not helpful. And BTW why is it that you assumed that I had not been to them? Let me restate what it is I am looking for. I am looking for the ftp site that has the 4.7 release sourses much like ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ has the sources for current. I know this seems like simplistic and newbie in nature type of question, but it is beginning to turn out to be far from it. As of yet neither I nor anyone else has seem to point me into a definitive direction in this matter. Wayne __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources?
At Wednesday, 23 October 2002, Wayne Lubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Drew Raines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wayne Lubin wrote: I am not quite sure I understand. If this is the ftp server that holds the 4.7 release sources, then why is it in a folder called 4.0-stable ? Mailing lists are *not* the first place to go for help. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting- edge.html -Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message I have already been to the references that you point out and they are not helpful. And BTW why is it that you assumed that I had not been to them? Let me restate what it is I am looking for. I am looking for the ftp site that has the 4.7 release sourses much like ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ has the sources for current. I know this seems like simplistic and newbie in nature type of question, but it is beginning to turn out to be far from it. As of yet neither I nor anyone else has seem to point me into a definitive direction in this matter. Wayne __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.7-RELEASE/ This e-mail host does not accept spam (unsolicited e-mail). If you have a legitimate reason for contacting me, replace 'junk' with 'pete'. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources?
- Original Message - From: Wayne Lubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Drew Raines [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:01 PM Subject: Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources? snip ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.7-RELEASE/ snip left in because they are important, and meaningful... http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions / http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edg e.html Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources?
--- Drew Raines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wayne Lubin wrote: Drew Raines wrote: Wayne Lubin wrote: I am not quite sure I understand. If this is the ftp server that holds the 4.7 release sources, then why is it in a folder called 4.0-stable ? Mailing lists are *not* the first place to go for help. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html I have already been to the references that you point out and they are not helpful. And BTW why is it that you assumed that I had not been to them? Because you asked a question that the above documents clearly address. If you don't understand the documentation, then ask a question concerning the documentation. Let me restate what it is I am looking for. I am looking for the ftp site that has the 4.7 release sourses much like ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ has the sources for current. I'd venture to guess it doesn't exist, most likely because cvsup obviates the need for it. However, you discredited that (superior) solution with your original question. I know this seems like simplistic and newbie in nature type of question, but it is beginning to turn out to be far from it. What makes you think so? As of yet neither I nor anyone else has seem to point me into a definitive direction in this matter. No response usually means you asked a poor question. -Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message If cvsup is so superior to ftp, then why do both current and stable exist in both cvsup and ftp form? And whatever the reason for providing current and stable in both cvsup and ftp form, why doesn't 4.7 release exist in both forms for the same reasons? Wayne __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources?
Wayne Lubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have already been there. The files are not in c code. They are in some wacky extensions such as .aa, .ai, etc.. The wacky format is: tar(1), gzip(1), split(1). To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources?
Wayne Lubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have already been there. The files are not in c code. They are in some wacky extensions such as .aa, .ai, etc.. He's looking for the C code ... ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/src/ It's labelled -stable rather than 4.7-RELEASE, although the release was not long ago, and -stable should be VERY close to 4.7 at this point. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources?
Jeff Jirsa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wayne Lubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have already been there. The files are not in c code. They are in some wacky extensions such as .aa, .ai, etc.. He's looking for the C code ... which *is* at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.7-RELEASE/ It's under the src directory. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/src/ It's labelled -stable rather than 4.7-RELEASE, although the release was not long ago, and -stable should be VERY close to 4.7 at this point. That's a *lot* less efficient to FTP down. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wayne Lubin) Date: Wed 23 Oct, 2002 Subject: Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources? So is it just that the c code is not provided for a release version as it is for current at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/ and ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports/ If this is the case it seems very weird. If someone could explain the rational for this it would be greatly appreciated. There is good rationale for this. The FreeBSD-current and FreeBSD-stable sources you found are actually the current state of each of the two main branches of FreeBSD. These are updated regularly from the repository, and there's only ever one copy of each stored on the server. These are handy for reference purposes, and relatively cheap to maintain. The sources for a release are basically a snapshot of one of the branches. Since these sources are already provided for each release (in the sbin.aa, sbin.ab... format you also found, which happens to be the same format the binary and documentation part of the release are provided in), it probably hasn't been found necessary to create yet another copy of *each* source release in unpacked format on the FTP mirrors. Generally, if you want to look at the sources for the release you're running, then install them on your machine in the same way you installed the binary parts. Otherwise, you're likely to want either just the latest branch sources (which you found), or you want to see the entire CVS history (which you can get at cvsweb.freebsd.org, or by more sophistocated means such as cvsup'ing the repository). I believe this is good coverage for everybody's needs, and I've omitted a few of the more obscure possibilities. That's not to say that unbundled copies of the release sources on the FTP mirrors wouldn't have some use, only that it is probably marginal. I hope this article explains why they aren't just there like the head-of-branch sources. In short, the sources you want are available via ftp in the bundled format, just fetch the bundles you want (e.g. for /usr/src/bin get sbin.?? and cat them through tar xfz -). Or just use sysinstall to fetch and install them. If you're not actually running FreeBSD or a UNIX system on the machine where you want to fetch and view them, you'll have to find tools to deal with the (relatively common) archive and compression formats (there are versions of gzip and tar for many platforms). Cheers, Mark. -- Mark Valentine, Thuvia Labs [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.thuvia.co.uk Tigers will do ANYTHING for a tuna fish sandwich. Mark Valentine uses We're kind of stupid that way. *munch* *munch*and endorses FreeBSD -- http://www.calvinandhobbes.com http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources?
On 2002-10-23 12:01, Wayne Lubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me restate what it is I am looking for. I am looking for the ftp site that has the 4.7 release sourses much like ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ has the sources for current. The answer is what you are looking for doesn't exist. I know this seems like simplistic and newbie in nature type of question, but it is beginning to turn out to be far from it. As of yet neither I nor anyone else has seem to point me into a definitive direction in this matter. The very simplistic answer is: a. Download all the files from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.7-RELEASE/src/ b. Run the install.sh script as root. You simply can't get simpler instructions than these. Giorgos. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources?
On 2002-10-23 12:18, Wayne Lubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.7-RELEASE/ I have already been there. The files are not in c code. They are in some wacky extensions such as .aa, .ai, etc... The files under /pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.7-RELEASE are in exactly the same format as they are distributed on the official FreeBSD CD-ROMs. The whacky format is a .tar.gz file that has been split in pieces with split(1). As I have explained in another reply of mine, the install.sh script that can be found in the src/ subdirectory will do the proper magic and install the sources under /usr/src for you if you run it as root. Giorgos. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources?
Wayne Lubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- Larry Rosenman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can always grab the RELENG_4_7 CVS tree and get the Released sources. ... Yes I know that, but thanks for trying to help. Just so there's no misunderstanding: MAYBE today RELENG_4_7 will get you 4.7 RELEASE sources, but in general it gets you those with important changes made. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources?
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 08:17:02PM -0700, Wayne Lubin wrote: I am at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ and I see where the current and stable sources are, but where are the 4.7 release sources? Thanks. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.7-RELEASE Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Where are the 4.7 release sources?
Hi, I am at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ and I see where the current and stable sources are, but where are the 4.7 release sources? Thanks. Wayne __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
