Re: Why doesn't Turn Off The Computer turn off the computer?
Chris Hill wrote: On Tue, 21 Mar 2006, Yance Kowara wrote: In Linux, shutdown -h now will power off the machine. *That* makes no sense to me, and I would find it to be unexpected behavior... but I guess it's a matter of what you're used to. Where FreeBSD aims for a Principle of Least Astonishment (POLA) my experience of Linux is that they have no such principle, and in some cases (when I'm having a bad day :-)) even a Principle of Greatest Astonishment. Shutdown -h has halted machines since forever (or course, in them days you *couldn't* power the machine off). Enough rambling, --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why doesn't Turn Off The Computer turn off the computer?
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 17:17, Chris Hill wrote: On Tue, 21 Mar 2006, Yance Kowara wrote: [snip] Yes, strangely enough shutdown -h now in FreeBSD will only halt the machine. halt -p will poweroff the box, and shutdown -p now will also power off the box. The shutdown options don't seem very strange to me: H stands for Halt, P stands for Power. The halt manpage says that Normally, the shutdown(8) utility is used when the system needs to be halted ... cleanly terminating specific programs. In Linux, shutdown -h now will power off the machine. Not the case for me. For me it's just like FBSD. *That* makes no sense to me, and I would find it to be unexpected behavior... but I guess it's a matter of what you're used to. -- Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** [ Busy Expunging | ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --hackmiester Walk a mile in my shoes and you will be a mile away in a new pair of shoes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFD/yYl3ApzN91C7BcRAoVVAJ97uhjh30nQ4hd9bQ90gJqiwsLEfgCeKSrg bVfqEeJ09WhO6Y51WHEHb6o= =VTUd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: Geek Code v3.1 (PHP) GCS/CM/E/IT d-@ s: a- C++$ UBLS*$ P+ L+++$ E- W++$ !N-- !o+ K-- !w-- !O- M++$ V-- PS@ PE@ Y--? PGP++ !t--- 5--? !X-- !R-- tv-- b+ DI++ D++ G+ e h r+++ z --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- Quick contact info: Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Large files/spam: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GTalk:hackmiester/AIM:hackmiester1337/Y!:hackm1ester/IRC:irc.7sinz.net/7sinz pgpVQxllLUZ3k.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why doesn't Turn Off The Computer turn off the computer?
- Original Message - From: Vayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Malcolm Fitzgerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Why doesn't Turn Off The Computer turn off the computer? On Monday 20 March 2006 20:04, Kevin Kinsey wrote: Malcolm Fitzgerald wrote: When I log out and select Turn off the computer it shuts down the system and leaves the machinery running, displaying this message: The operating system has halted. Please press any key to reboot. Pressing the power button fires up the system. I have to hold the power button down for several seconds to get a forced power-off or pull the plug. How do I setup BSD so that the command at the login panel turns the machine off? Malcolm It might be helpful to mention your windowing system, but I doubt that it will make a lot of difference. Most likely, FreeBSD doesn't grok your system's ACPI. What does uname -a say? (Let's establish your OS version first). I don't know about how your window system shuts down, but from the command line I had the same problem. I was using shutdown -h now and it would give me the same message that the system was halted, press any key to reboot. I later learned that shutdown -p now would shut the power off as well. Maybe your window system is doing the equivalent of -h instead of -p. Yes, strangely enough shutdown -h now in FreeBSD will only halt the machine. halt -p will poweroff the box, and shutdown -p now will also power off the box. In Linux, shutdown -h now will power off the machine. Yance. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why doesn't Turn Off The Computer turn off the computer?
When I log out and select Turn off the computer it shuts down the system and leaves the machinery running, displaying this message: The operating system has halted. Please press any key to reboot. Pressing the power button fires up the system. I have to hold the power button down for several seconds to get a forced power-off or pull the plug. How do I setup BSD so that the command at the login panel turns the machine off? Sounds like one (or both) of two things. One (most likely) you are using the wrong command to shut the machine down. shutdown -h [now] tells it to shut down the system and leave it on but in a 'halted' state, just as you are seeing. You need to use: shutdown -p [now] to get it to power down after it finishes shutting down. The other possibility is that your BIOS is either not set to accept a power down signal or there is some incompatibility with it and what FreeBSD sends it. If just switching to '-p' above doesn't do the trick, go in to the BIOS and look for where it turns the software power down feature on and off and make sure it is on. jerry Malcolm ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why doesn't Turn Off The Computer turn off the computer?
Malcolm Fitzgerald wrote: When I log out and select Turn off the computer it shuts down the system and leaves the machinery running, displaying this message: The operating system has halted. Please press any key to reboot. Pressing the power button fires up the system. I have to hold the power button down for several seconds to get a forced power-off or pull the plug. How do I setup BSD so that the command at the login panel turns the machine off? Malcolm I figure you use kdm as Display Manager, because Turn off the computer is what is offers as a choice when you select Shutdown. To set it up properly, run kcontrol, select System Administration, then Login Manager, then Shutdown. Go into Administrator Mode and correct the command for Halt to /sbin/halt -p. HTH, Helge ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why doesn't Turn Off The Computer turn off the computer?
On 22/03/2006, at 3:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Malcolm Fitzgerald wrote: When I log out and select Turn off the computer it shuts down the system and leaves the machinery running, displaying this message: The operating system has halted. Please press any key to reboot. I figure you use kdm as Display Manager, because Turn off the computer is what is offers as a choice when you select Shutdown. To set it up properly, run kcontrol, select System Administration, then Login Manager, then Shutdown. Go into Administrator Mode and correct the command for Halt to /sbin/halt -p. Yes, it was simply a matter of issuing the -p switch thank you Helge, for spotting the kdm reference and giving the easiest method for fixing the problem malcolm ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why doesn't Turn Off The Computer turn off the computer?
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006, Yance Kowara wrote: [snip] Yes, strangely enough shutdown -h now in FreeBSD will only halt the machine. halt -p will poweroff the box, and shutdown -p now will also power off the box. The shutdown options don't seem very strange to me: H stands for Halt, P stands for Power. The halt manpage says that Normally, the shutdown(8) utility is used when the system needs to be halted ... cleanly terminating specific programs. In Linux, shutdown -h now will power off the machine. *That* makes no sense to me, and I would find it to be unexpected behavior... but I guess it's a matter of what you're used to. -- Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** [ Busy Expunging | ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why doesn't Turn Off The Computer turn off the computer?
Malcolm Fitzgerald wrote: On 22/03/2006, at 3:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Malcolm Fitzgerald wrote: When I log out and select Turn off the computer it shuts down the system and leaves the machinery running, displaying this message: The operating system has halted. Please press any key to reboot. I figure you use kdm as Display Manager, because Turn off the computer is what is offers as a choice when you select Shutdown. To set it up properly, run kcontrol, select System Administration, then Login Manager, then Shutdown. Go into Administrator Mode and correct the command for Halt to /sbin/halt -p. Yes, it was simply a matter of issuing the -p switch thank you Helge, for spotting the kdm reference and giving the easiest method for fixing the problem malcolm Well, 'twas a lucky guess on Helge's part. XFCE also offers Turn off the computer, and I'd be willing to guess that GNOME doesn't do it much differently, either. So, there's something to be said for detail in you description of your problems. Nonetheless, we're glad you've got it working, and perhaps this thread will be of assistance to others who will search the archives and find it. KDK -- You don't move to Edina, you achieve Edina. -- Guindon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why doesn't Turn Off The Computer turn off the computer?
When I log out and select Turn off the computer it shuts down the system and leaves the machinery running, displaying this message: The operating system has halted. Please press any key to reboot. Pressing the power button fires up the system. I have to hold the power button down for several seconds to get a forced power-off or pull the plug. How do I setup BSD so that the command at the login panel turns the machine off? Malcolm ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why doesn't Turn Off The Computer turn off the computer?
Malcolm Fitzgerald writes: When I log out and select Turn off the computer it shuts down the system and leaves the machinery running, displaying this message: The operating system has halted. Please press any key to reboot. Pressing the power button fires up the system. I have to hold the power button down for several seconds to get a forced power-off or pull the plug. How do I setup BSD so that the command at the login panel turns the machine off? This is not (or not just) about FreeBSD, but about your BIOS. (All of my machines are set to Off means OFF!, damnit..) Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why doesn't Turn Off The Computer turn off the computer?
Malcolm Fitzgerald wrote: When I log out and select Turn off the computer it shuts down the system and leaves the machinery running, displaying this message: The operating system has halted. Please press any key to reboot. Pressing the power button fires up the system. I have to hold the power button down for several seconds to get a forced power-off or pull the plug. How do I setup BSD so that the command at the login panel turns the machine off? Malcolm It might be helpful to mention your windowing system, but I doubt that it will make a lot of difference. Most likely, FreeBSD doesn't grok your system's ACPI. What does uname -a say? (Let's establish your OS version first). Do you have any references to ACPI in your system's boot message? (you can look in /var/run/dmesg.boot). What does kldstat(8) show? Is acpi.ko loaded? It is quite possible, if you are running a relatively recent release on an older machine, that ACPI support is intentionally disabled for your motherboard because FreeBSD considers the system's BIOS/ACPI to be broken. If this is the case, I'm not sure if the situation can be corrected, or not. The good news: sometimes it is possible to tell the system what kind of ACPI support you need, and have it loaded at boot-time; the bad news: some motherboards/BIOS will never be supported, there simply won't be enough programmer time to devote to all the whims of every chipset designer who's been allowed to release a product. Kevin Kinsey -- Imagine me going around with a pot belly. It would mean political ruin. -- Adolf Hitler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why doesn't Turn Off The Computer turn off the computer?
On Monday 20 March 2006 20:04, Kevin Kinsey wrote: Malcolm Fitzgerald wrote: When I log out and select Turn off the computer it shuts down the system and leaves the machinery running, displaying this message: The operating system has halted. Please press any key to reboot. Pressing the power button fires up the system. I have to hold the power button down for several seconds to get a forced power-off or pull the plug. How do I setup BSD so that the command at the login panel turns the machine off? Malcolm It might be helpful to mention your windowing system, but I doubt that it will make a lot of difference. Most likely, FreeBSD doesn't grok your system's ACPI. What does uname -a say? (Let's establish your OS version first). I don't know about how your window system shuts down, but from the command line I had the same problem. I was using shutdown -h now and it would give me the same message that the system was halted, press any key to reboot. I later learned that shutdown -p now would shut the power off as well. Maybe your window system is doing the equivalent of -h instead of -p. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
