Re: Why must I use firewall ?

2003-06-24 Thread Bill Moran
Supote Leelasupphakorn wrote:
Hi, all

   So far, I known firewall is a choice when I want 
to protect my boxes from crackers but my question is
if I closed the service I don't use (such as port 25
for STMP) so the cracker out there can't attack,
what's the reason "firewall" come to play ?
First off, you don't have to use a firewall.  It's your
machine, do whatever you want.
Hypothetical example:  Some jerk suddenly starts DoSing
your server (like SQL slammer, or anything similar) if
you already have a firewall setup, you can quickly and
easily add a rule to block the attacked port and reduce
the dameage.
Example #2: Employees are playing Internet games while
they should be working.  You can quickly add a rule to
prevent the game traffic from working.  You can even
do like I did for a client and add a cron job that allows
them to play games during lunch only.
Example #3: You want to keep an individual employee from
hogging all the network bandwidth.  Set up dummynet rules
to keep things flowing.
Even if you have no _need_ for a firewall, it can be
useful.  If you can't think of anything to block, I'd
just set it up with the "open" ruleset for now.  If the
time comes when you need to add a rule you can do so in
just a minute or so, as opposed to configuring the whole
firewall.
--
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com
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RE: Why must I use firewall ?

2003-06-24 Thread Philip Payne
Hi,

>So far, I known firewall is a choice when I want 
> to protect my boxes from crackers but my question is
> if I closed the service I don't use (such as port 25
> for STMP) so the cracker out there can't attack,
> what's the reason "firewall" come to play ?

>From a general viewpoint the more levels of security the better. i.e.
shutting down the service=good, shutting down the service + filtering out
unwanted traffic at the network edge (firewall) = better, shutting down the
service + filtering out the unwanted traffic (firewall) + observing internal
traffic for odd things (IDS) = even better.

Firewalls are generally positioned at network gateways, where as servers are
generally within the network. This means carrying out security at the
firewall is much easier as it is the focal point for all network traffic.

Firewalls generally have a much better logging ability, this is again helped
by their positioning in the network. Logging will be important in the
post-cracking examination of what went wrong.

More importantly, you shouldn't be thinking "Should I use a firewall?" you
should be thinking "what should my security model look like?"
Firewalls are only a security tool to be used in addition to correct
configuration of the server, security audits, IDS, penetration tests,
account/password management and business practices/procedures. 

However any security procedure you put in place must be cost effective
i.e. The cost of your security hardware/procedure/implementation must be
less than the cost of total destruction of your data and it's replication in
a disaster recovery procedure (1 times, 2 times or 3 times... your choice as
to how often you think this will happen).

Hope those general comments help.

Phil.
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Why must I use firewall ?

2003-06-24 Thread Supote Leelasupphakorn
Hi, all

   So far, I known firewall is a choice when I want 
to protect my boxes from crackers but my question is
if I closed the service I don't use (such as port 25
for STMP) so the cracker out there can't attack,
what's the reason "firewall" come to play ?

Thanks in advance,


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