Re: bad instability on FreeBSD/amd64 6.0

2005-11-30 Thread Ian Lord 
No it's intel based xeon processors, but since they use emt64 
extensions, we can use the amd64 version of freebsd.



At 06:32 2005-11-30, Johan wrote:
On 11/28/05, Ian Lord 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've been running amd64 version since version 6 been out without any crashes.

I am running on dell's 1850 and 2850 servers.



Dell is using AMD now?? I couldn't find them on their website...

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Re: bad instability on FreeBSD/amd64 6.0

2005-11-30 Thread Johan 
On 11/28/05, Ian Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've been running amd64 version since version 6 been out without any
> crashes.
>
> I am running on dell's 1850 and 2850 servers.



Dell is using AMD now?? I couldn't find them on their website...
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Re: bad instability on FreeBSD/amd64 6.0

2005-11-29 Thread Albert Shih 
 Le 28/11/2005 à 14:17:56-0500, Ian Lord a écrit
> I've been running amd64 version since version 6 been out without any 
> crashes.
> 

And have you see some big performance increase ? I mean between amd64
version and i386 version of FreeBSD ?

> On my part, the only problem I see in it, is that commercial vendors 
> don't support it so in my case, I can't run zend accelerator and 
> pdflib since they are precompiled for IA32
> 

Long time ago (Hummm 1 year ;-) ) I've try to  install AMD64 version but I
come back to x86 version because lot of software (event in ports) don't
work.  What's the situation now ?

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Re: bad instability on FreeBSD/amd64 6.0

2005-11-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar 


IA32 compat won't help you in this case since these two program are loadable 
module so you cannot load a ia32 module in a amd64 compiled application even 
with compatIA32 in the kernel.


IA32 compatibility matters, but not at kernel level. being able to run 
linux/i386 binaries will be enough!





At 12:26 2005-11-28, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
i've read few articles on the net that FreeBSD/amd64 crashes very 
frequently, contrary to /i386.


how much truth is in that? i would strongly prefer to run amd64 system on 
amd64 machine that i will buy this week.

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Re: bad instability on FreeBSD/amd64 6.0

2005-11-29 Thread Ian Lord 

I've been running amd64 version since version 6 been out without any crashes.

I am running on dell's 1850 and 2850 servers.

On my part, the only problem I see in it, is that commercial vendors 
don't support it so in my case, I can't run zend accelerator and 
pdflib since they are precompiled for IA32


IA32 compat won't help you in this case since these two program are 
loadable module so you cannot load a ia32 module in a amd64 compiled 
application even with compatIA32 in the kernel.



At 12:26 2005-11-28, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
i've read few articles on the net that FreeBSD/amd64 crashes very 
frequently, contrary to /i386.


how much truth is in that? i would strongly prefer to run amd64 
system on amd64 machine that i will buy this week.

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Re: bad instability on FreeBSD/amd64 6.0

2005-11-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar 

i've read few articles on the net that FreeBSD/amd64 crashes very
frequently, contrary to /i386.

how much truth is in that? i would strongly prefer to run amd64 system on
amd64 machine that i will buy this week.


Sounds like total crap to me.  If you monitor the freebsd-amd64
mailing list you do not see evidence of this, nor do I on the amd64
machines I use very heavily.

it's not my words, and it's nice to hear that it's not true before 
installing it :)

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Re: bad instability on FreeBSD/amd64 6.0

2005-11-28 Thread Kris Kennaway 
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 06:26:18PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> i've read few articles on the net that FreeBSD/amd64 crashes very 
> frequently, contrary to /i386.
> 
> how much truth is in that? i would strongly prefer to run amd64 system on 
> amd64 machine that i will buy this week.

Sounds like total crap to me.  If you monitor the freebsd-amd64
mailing list you do not see evidence of this, nor do I on the amd64
machines I use very heavily.

Kris


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Re: bad instability on FreeBSD/amd64 6.0

2005-11-28 Thread Giorgos Keramidas 
On 2005-11-28 18:26, Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i've read few articles on the net that FreeBSD/amd64 crashes very
> frequently, contrary to /i386.

Without specific references, all I can say is... "that's crap".

> how much truth is in that? i would strongly prefer to run amd64 system
> on amd64 machine that i will buy this week.

I'm running FreeBSD-CURRENT on an amd64 laptop for the past 3
months (ever since I managed to get a working laptop from Acer)
and I haven't had any mysterious 'crashes' because of the amd64
architecture.

If you are looking for suggestions about motherboards and other
hardware that is supported, please have a look at the web-site
for the list of supported systems and all should be fine :)

- Giorgos

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bad instability on FreeBSD/amd64 6.0

2005-11-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar 
i've read few articles on the net that FreeBSD/amd64 crashes very 
frequently, contrary to /i386.


how much truth is in that? i would strongly prefer to run amd64 system on 
amd64 machine that i will buy this week.

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