Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
Scott Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:30:50 -0600 "Ray Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >Did you figure out how to get an install cd from the ISO image file? I have > >a new dell with RecordNow and I can't figure it out, but, I need to do the > >same thing. Thanks. > > Sonic RecordNow! apparently does not recognize .iso files as image files, > so it cannot produce a valid, bootable disk. I ran into this two or three > weeks ago. I already had a 5.2.1 system installed on the same machine, so > I was able to copy the image file from the Windows XP file system into a > FreeBSD UFS file system. From there I used burncd to produce a bootable disk. > One problem I ran into, however, was that the "fixate" step always encountered > some error with the two large .iso files when burning a CD-R, although it > worked fine with the "minimal installation" image file. Burning to a CD-RW > worked properly. I still don't know why burning a large image to a CD-R was > a problem when burning it to a CD-RW was not a problem. > In short, Sonic RecordNow! is useless for ISO image files, but you may > find some workaround. There are also other disk-burning packages around for > Windows XP, but that would mean spending more money on a package you might > only > use once. :-] The product specs for RecordNow claim that it has full support for ISO file images. You probably need to trick it in some way; maybe by changing the file extension or some such silliness. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:30:50 -0600 "Ray Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Did you figure out how to get an install cd from the ISO image file? I have a >new dell with RecordNow and I can't figure it out, but, I need to do the same >thing. Thanks. Sonic RecordNow! apparently does not recognize .iso files as image files, so it cannot produce a valid, bootable disk. I ran into this two or three weeks ago. I already had a 5.2.1 system installed on the same machine, so I was able to copy the image file from the Windows XP file system into a FreeBSD UFS file system. From there I used burncd to produce a bootable disk. One problem I ran into, however, was that the "fixate" step always encountered some error with the two large .iso files when burning a CD-R, although it worked fine with the "minimal installation" image file. Burning to a CD-RW worked properly. I still don't know why burning a large image to a CD-R was a problem when burning it to a CD-RW was not a problem. In short, Sonic RecordNow! is useless for ISO image files, but you may find some workaround. There are also other disk-burning packages around for Windows XP, but that would mean spending more money on a package you might only use once. :-] Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ** ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
download burnatonce @ ... -> http://www.burnatonce.com/ install it, click on 'load new image' and after you did load the image (*.iso) click on 'write' ... Ray Marshall schrieb: Did you figure out how to get an install cd from the ISO image file? I have a new dell with RecordNow and I can't figure it out, but, I need to do the same thing. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards DAn.I.El S. Haischt Want a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
Did you figure out how to get an install cd from the ISO image file? I have a new dell with RecordNow and I can't figure it out, but, I need to do the same thing. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 07:36:30 -0600 Joshua Lokken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 02:31:37 -0600 (CST), Scott Bennett ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu Jan 6 09:58:55 2005 Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:55:10 -0700 Danny MacMillan >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 06:35:43PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:37:41 -0700 Danny MacMillan >> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >This is not intuitive, but you do not want to use the "make a >> >> >> >bootable CD" function of Sonic RecordNow! to make a bootable CD. >> >> >> >> >> >> On what basis is the above statement made if you haven't used >> >> >> Sonic RecordNow! ? It certainly looks to me as though the green >> >> >> button is the *only* way to burn an image (not counting making an >> >> >> exact copy of >> >> > >> >> >On the basis of your characterizing the little green button as being >> >> >"for making a bootable CD", and my understanding of that function in >> >> >alternative software. In short: I misunderstood. I apologize for >> >> >the misdirection. >> >> > >> >> Oh. That was because, if one places the cursor over the green >> >> button, a box appears temporarily bearing a line that says, "Click >> >> here to make this CD/DVD bootable". And, as noted in a different >> >> posting in this thread, that button brings up a browser panel for >> >> choosing an image file (but not displaying .iso files among the >> >> choices) to burn in making the bootable disk. >> > >> >Just an additional note for clarity: If I understand - and I don't >> >have the rest of the thread so I may be missing something - you want >> >to make a bootable CD of one of the ISO images. >> > >> >In that case, you do NOT want to use any of the options on your local >> >machine to create a bootable CD because the ISO image is already a >> >bootable image. It needs merely to be written raw to the media. >> > >> >When your utility asks if you want to create a bootable CD, it is >> >asking if you want it to add a boot record for it and the other pointers >> >to the file to make it bootable. Since the FreeeBSD ISO already has >> >that stuff in it, you don't want it done again. So, choose the options >> >that just write the data image directly to the CD with no additions. >> > >> No, no. This is wrong. You missed the explanation I posted regarding >> Sonic RecordNow!, as well as an earlier one by Robin Becker. The green >> button is the only way to tell the application that the file(s) it is to >> burn is/are image file(s), and it doesn't know that .iso files are a type >> of image file, so it doesn't list them in its browser unless you tell it >> to display *all* files in the chosen directory. > >Obviously, this Sonic RecordNow? software isn't working well for you. >Have you considered any of the alternatives that burn isos without >problems; Nero, Alcohol, Fireburner ? > As I already explained here on this list, the key to getting burncd to work right was to copy the image file from the Windows XP partition into a FreeBSD partition to use as input to burncd. That worked fine for CD-RWs, though not as well for CD-Rs. The earlier failure of burncd to produce a bootable CD-R was apparently caused somehow by having burncd read directly from a Windows XP partition mounted onto /mnt. That's it for the re-explanations, folks. Please don't post followups in this thread if you haven't been following it. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ** ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 02:31:37 -0600 (CST), Scott Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu Jan 6 09:58:55 2005 Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:55:10 -0700 Danny MacMillan > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> >On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 06:35:43PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:37:41 -0700 Danny MacMillan > >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >This is not intuitive, but you do not want to use the "make a > >> >> >bootable CD" function of Sonic RecordNow! to make a bootable CD. > >> >> > >> >> On what basis is the above statement made if you haven't used > >> >> Sonic RecordNow! ? It certainly looks to me as though the green > >> >> button is the *only* way to burn an image (not counting making an > >> >> exact copy of > >> > > >> >On the basis of your characterizing the little green button as being > >> >"for making a bootable CD", and my understanding of that function in > >> >alternative software. In short: I misunderstood. I apologize for > >> >the misdirection. > >> > > >> Oh. That was because, if one places the cursor over the green > >> button, a box appears temporarily bearing a line that says, "Click > >> here to make this CD/DVD bootable". And, as noted in a different > >> posting in this thread, that button brings up a browser panel for > >> choosing an image file (but not displaying .iso files among the > >> choices) to burn in making the bootable disk. > > > >Just an additional note for clarity: If I understand - and I don't > >have the rest of the thread so I may be missing something - you want > >to make a bootable CD of one of the ISO images. > > > >In that case, you do NOT want to use any of the options on your local > >machine to create a bootable CD because the ISO image is already a > >bootable image. It needs merely to be written raw to the media. > > > >When your utility asks if you want to create a bootable CD, it is > >asking if you want it to add a boot record for it and the other pointers > >to the file to make it bootable. Since the FreeeBSD ISO already has > >that stuff in it, you don't want it done again. So, choose the options > >that just write the data image directly to the CD with no additions. > > > No, no. This is wrong. You missed the explanation I posted regarding > Sonic RecordNow!, as well as an earlier one by Robin Becker. The green > button is the only way to tell the application that the file(s) it is to > burn is/are image file(s), and it doesn't know that .iso files are a type > of image file, so it doesn't list them in its browser unless you tell it > to display *all* files in the chosen directory. Obviously, this Sonic RecordNow? software isn't working well for you. Have you considered any of the alternatives that burn isos without problems; Nero, Alcohol, Fireburner ? -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
On Thu Jan 6 09:58:55 2005 Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:55:10 -0700 Danny MacMillan >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 06:35:43PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: >> >> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:37:41 -0700 Danny MacMillan >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >This is not intuitive, but you do not want to use the "make a >> >> >bootable CD" function of Sonic RecordNow! to make a bootable CD. >> >> >> >> On what basis is the above statement made if you haven't used >> >> Sonic RecordNow! ? It certainly looks to me as though the green >> >> button is the *only* way to burn an image (not counting making an >> >> exact copy of >> > >> >On the basis of your characterizing the little green button as being >> >"for making a bootable CD", and my understanding of that function in >> >alternative software. In short: I misunderstood. I apologize for >> >the misdirection. >> > >> Oh. That was because, if one places the cursor over the green >> button, a box appears temporarily bearing a line that says, "Click >> here to make this CD/DVD bootable". And, as noted in a different >> posting in this thread, that button brings up a browser panel for >> choosing an image file (but not displaying .iso files among the >> choices) to burn in making the bootable disk. > >Just an additional note for clarity: If I understand - and I don't >have the rest of the thread so I may be missing something - you want >to make a bootable CD of one of the ISO images. > >In that case, you do NOT want to use any of the options on your local >machine to create a bootable CD because the ISO image is already a >bootable image. It needs merely to be written raw to the media. > >When your utility asks if you want to create a bootable CD, it is >asking if you want it to add a boot record for it and the other pointers >to the file to make it bootable. Since the FreeeBSD ISO already has >that stuff in it, you don't want it done again. So, choose the options >that just write the data image directly to the CD with no additions. > No, no. This is wrong. You missed the explanation I posted regarding Sonic RecordNow!, as well as an earlier one by Robin Becker. The green button is the only way to tell the application that the file(s) it is to burn is/are image file(s), and it doesn't know that .iso files are a type of image file, so it doesn't list them in its browser unless you tell it to display *all* files in the chosen directory. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ** ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
> > On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:55:10 -0700 Danny MacMillan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 06:35:43PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: > >> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:37:41 -0700 Danny MacMillan > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> >This is not intuitive, but you do not want to use the "make a > >> >bootable CD" function of Sonic RecordNow! to make a bootable CD. > >> > >> On what basis is the above statement made if you haven't used > >> Sonic RecordNow! ? It certainly looks to me as though the green > >> button is the *only* way to burn an image (not counting making an > >> exact copy of > > > >On the basis of your characterizing the little green button as being > >"for making a bootable CD", and my understanding of that function in > >alternative software. In short: I misunderstood. I apologize for > >the misdirection. > > > Oh. That was because, if one places the cursor over the green > button, a box appears temporarily bearing a line that says, "Click > here to make this CD/DVD bootable". And, as noted in a different > posting in this thread, that button brings up a browser panel for > choosing an image file (but not displaying .iso files among the > choices) to burn in making the bootable disk. Just an additional note for clarity: If I understand - and I don't have the rest of the thread so I may be missing something - you want to make a bootable CD of one of the ISO images. In that case, you do NOT want to use any of the options on your local machine to create a bootable CD because the ISO image is already a bootable image. It needs merely to be written raw to the media. When your utility asks if you want to create a bootable CD, it is asking if you want it to add a boot record for it and the other pointers to the file to make it bootable. Since the FreeeBSD ISO already has that stuff in it, you don't want it done again. So, choose the options that just write the data image directly to the CD with no additions. jerry > > > Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG > ** > * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * > ** > * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * > * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * > * -- a standing army." * > *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * > ** > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:55:10 -0700 Danny MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 06:35:43PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: >> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:37:41 -0700 Danny MacMillan >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >This is not intuitive, but you do not want to use the "make a >> >bootable CD" function of Sonic RecordNow! to make a bootable CD. >> >> On what basis is the above statement made if you haven't used >> Sonic RecordNow! ? It certainly looks to me as though the green >> button is the *only* way to burn an image (not counting making an >> exact copy of > >On the basis of your characterizing the little green button as being >"for making a bootable CD", and my understanding of that function in >alternative software. In short: I misunderstood. I apologize for >the misdirection. > Oh. That was because, if one places the cursor over the green button, a box appears temporarily bearing a line that says, "Click here to make this CD/DVD bootable". And, as noted in a different posting in this thread, that button brings up a browser panel for choosing an image file (but not displaying .iso files among the choices) to burn in making the bootable disk. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ** ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
Many thanks go to Dave Horsfall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, who wrote the winning tip on Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:14:24 +1100 (EST): >On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Scott Bennett wrote: > >> As root, I did the following (assuming I remember the Windows path >> correctly:-): >> >> mount -t ntfs /dev/ad0s1 /mnt > >[...] > >Try copying the file to a local BSD file-system; the NTFS semantics could >be getting in the way. Also try write-once media, if you can, as I've >occasionally had difficulties with rewriteable media. > This appears to have been the ticket. I tried it first with the bootonly image, which made a bootable CD-RW. After testing its bootability, I then tried it with the disc1 image, which also worked and did boot okay. So I now have the disks I need as CD-RWs. However, I would prefer to have them as CD-Rs, but ran into a little problem. The bootonly image went onto a CD-R just fine, and the CD-R did boot right. However, at the very end of burning the disc1 image to a CD-R, I got the following message. burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCFIXATE): Input/output error I tried it again in case it were a fluke, but got the same result. The CD-R appears to boot okay, but I don't know whether the entire content of the CD-R is intact. Would I run into problems with files physically near the end of the written part of the CD-R? The disc2 image did the same thing. If someone can explain why both images went onto CD-RWs just fine, but got the error during fixation on CD-Rs, I'd like to see it. Anyway, thanks to all who responded to my plea for help. I can now move forward another inch or two toward (I hope) a usable FreeBSD system. It just kills me to have this Inspiron XPS going mostly to waste so far, but maybe 5.3 will do what 5.2.1 couldn't. :-} Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ** ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 06:35:43PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: > On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:37:41 -0700 Danny MacMillan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 10:13:56PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: > >> On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:21:06 -0500 Parv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> >in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > >> >wrote Scott Bennett thusly... > >> >> > >> >> I've downloaded the following ISO image files: > >> >> > >> >> 5.3-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso > >> >> 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso > >> >> 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso > >> >> > >> >> I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows > >> >> XP Home's own facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said > >> >> system, but did not get bootable CDs either way. > >> > > >> >First time i tried the software of same name unknown version (IBM > >> >ThinkPad T42, Windows XP Professional), i selected "Data Disc" > >> >and chose the ISO image. Well, it did do its job: i got the ISO > >> >image /file/ on the CD. > >> > > >> >After more poking around in the software interface, "Burn Image" > >> >or some such option was revealed under the heading of "Data Disc" > >> >or some such. And, that too did its job: i got the mini install > >> >ISO image on CD to boot with. > >> > > >> Thanks for the suggestion. I've now gone back and found the > >> little green button in Sonic RecordNow! for making a bootable CD. > >> I then tried it with each of the first two files noted above. The > >> CDs written via the green button do get a little farther than > >> before. In the earlier case, the machine barely glanced at the CD > >> before deciding to boot from the hard drive after all. The green > >> button CDs, instead, run far enough to display a message in the > >> upper left corner of the screen that says, "Missing operating > >> system", and then hang. > > > >This is not intuitive, but you do not want to use the "make a > >bootable CD" function of Sonic RecordNow! to make a bootable CD. > > On what basis is the above statement made if you haven't used > Sonic RecordNow! ? It certainly looks to me as though the green > button is the *only* way to burn an image (not counting making an > exact copy of On the basis of your characterizing the little green button as being "for making a bootable CD", and my understanding of that function in alternative software. In short: I misunderstood. I apologize for the misdirection. -- Danny ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:37:41 -0700 Danny MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 10:13:56PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: >> On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:21:06 -0500 Parv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> >wrote Scott Bennett thusly... >> >> >> >> I've downloaded the following ISO image files: >> >> >> >> 5.3-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso >> >> 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso >> >> 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso >> >> >> >> I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows XP >> >> Home's own facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said >> >> system, but did not get bootable CDs either way. >> > >> >First time i tried the software of same name unknown version (IBM >> >ThinkPad T42, Windows XP Professional), i selected "Data Disc" and >> >chose the ISO image. Well, it did do its job: i got the ISO image >> >/file/ on the CD. >> > >> >After more poking around in the software interface, "Burn Image" or >> >some such option was revealed under the heading of "Data Disc" or >> >some such. And, that too did its job: i got the mini install ISO >> >image on CD to boot with. >> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. I've now gone back and found the >> little green button in Sonic RecordNow! for making a bootable CD. I >> then tried it with each of the first two files noted above. The CDs >> written via the green button do get a little farther than before. >> In the earlier case, the machine barely glanced at the CD before >> deciding to boot from the hard drive after all. The green button >> CDs, instead, run far enough to display a message in the upper left >> corner of the screen that says, "Missing operating system", and then >> hang. > >This is not intuitive, but you do not want to use the "make a bootable >CD" function of Sonic RecordNow! to make a bootable CD. The ISO files On what basis is the above statement made if you haven't used Sonic RecordNow! ? It certainly looks to me as though the green button is the *only* way to burn an image (not counting making an exact copy of an existing CD, of course). When the green button is used, one can then use a small file browser panel to select an image file to be burned. The files displayed by default are of the following suffixes/types: .img, .bin, and .ima. One can select a display of "All files" in the chosen directory instead, which is what I did in order to be able to see and choose the .iso files in question. As Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted here, the version of Sonic RecordNow! distributed by Dell apparently does not know how to handle ISO 9660 image files, at least not if they're identified by file name suffix of .iso (see earlier remarks about file browser panel). Feh. >you downloaded are disc images that are already bootable. If you burn >a faithful reproduction of the image onto a CD, the CD will be >bootable. The way to do that is to burn the image to disc as an >image, not as a file. Most CD burning software have an option like Well, I was attempting to find a way to do that, thus my original posting. >"burn image to disc". For example, Nero Burning ROM SE has this >functionality in the Recorder menu under "Burn Image...". I haven't >ever used Sonic RecordNow! so I don't know where the option is (or See remarks above. Also, I don't have Nero, etc. I was hoping to invest as little as possible into software for Microslop's OS and to have a usable FreeBSD system about a month ago. :-( Unfortunately, neither my graphics card nor my wireless card has support under 5.2.1. 5.3 allegedly will allow me to attempt to borrow the wireless driver from Windows XP for use under FreeBSD (via NDIS). The most recent XFree86 and X.org versions of X11R6 are alleged to have simple drivers for the graphics card (but probably with no 3D acceleration :-( ), though it isn't clear to me yet whether the 5.3 kernel supports the communication with the card. And, to protect what I am stuck using in the meantime, I bought a disk backup package that doesn't work right and is falsely advertised by Symantec as being supported, namely, Norton Ghost 9.0. Grumble, hiss, grumble, grumble... I'm beginning to think that software developers who develop applications for Microslop's OS automatically suffer brain damage in the process. >even if it has one, though Parv's comments above would suggest that it >does). If it doesn't, you are going to need to use some other >software because burning the image to disc is the only way you will >get the outcome you want. > It appears that I have found a way to do it with burncd under 5.2.1. I'll reply later to the article that gave me the tip to get it to work, and I'll describe the peculiar, new-but-not-show-stopping problem encountered along the way. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs
Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 10:13:56PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: > On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:21:06 -0500 Parv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > >wrote Scott Bennett thusly... > >> > >> I've downloaded the following ISO image files: > >> > >>5.3-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso > >>5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso > >>5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso > >> > >> I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows XP > >> Home's own facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said > >> system, but did not get bootable CDs either way. > > > >First time i tried the software of same name unknown version (IBM > >ThinkPad T42, Windows XP Professional), i selected "Data Disc" and > >chose the ISO image. Well, it did do its job: i got the ISO image > >/file/ on the CD. > > > >After more poking around in the software interface, "Burn Image" or > >some such option was revealed under the heading of "Data Disc" or > >some such. And, that too did its job: i got the mini install ISO > >image on CD to boot with. > > > Thanks for the suggestion. I've now gone back and found the > little green button in Sonic RecordNow! for making a bootable CD. I > then tried it with each of the first two files noted above. The CDs > written via the green button do get a little farther than before. > In the earlier case, the machine barely glanced at the CD before > deciding to boot from the hard drive after all. The green button > CDs, instead, run far enough to display a message in the upper left > corner of the screen that says, "Missing operating system", and then > hang. This is not intuitive, but you do not want to use the "make a bootable CD" function of Sonic RecordNow! to make a bootable CD. The ISO files you downloaded are disc images that are already bootable. If you burn a faithful reproduction of the image onto a CD, the CD will be bootable. The way to do that is to burn the image to disc as an image, not as a file. Most CD burning software have an option like "burn image to disc". For example, Nero Burning ROM SE has this functionality in the Recorder menu under "Burn Image...". I haven't ever used Sonic RecordNow! so I don't know where the option is (or even if it has one, though Parv's comments above would suggest that it does). If it doesn't, you are going to need to use some other software because burning the image to disc is the only way you will get the outcome you want. -- Danny ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:21:06 -0500 Parv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >wrote Scott Bennett thusly... >> >> I've downloaded the following ISO image files: >> >> 5.3-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso >> 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso >> 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso >> >> I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows XP >> Home's own facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said >> system, but did not get bootable CDs either way. > >First time i tried the software of same name unknown version (IBM >ThinkPad T42, Windows XP Professional), i selected "Data Disc" and >chose the ISO image. Well, it did do its job: i got the ISO image >/file/ on the CD. > >After more poking around in the software interface, "Burn Image" or >some such option was revealed under the heading of "Data Disc" or >some such. And, that too did its job: i got the mini install ISO >image on CD to boot with. > Thanks for the suggestion. I've now gone back and found the little green button in Sonic RecordNow! for making a bootable CD. I then tried it with each of the first two files noted above. The CDs written via the green button do get a little farther than before. In the earlier case, the machine barely glanced at the CD before deciding to boot from the hard drive after all. The green button CDs, instead, run far enough to display a message in the upper left corner of the screen that says, "Missing operating system", and then hang. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ** ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Scott Bennett wrote: > As root, I did the following (assuming I remember the Windows path > correctly:-): > > mount -t ntfs /dev/ad0s1 /mnt [...] Try copying the file to a local BSD file-system; the NTFS semantics could be getting in the way. Also try write-once media, if you can, as I've occasionally had difficulties with rewriteable media. -- Dave ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 21:49:26 +1100 (EST) Dave Horsfall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Scott Bennett wrote: > >> I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows XP Home's >> own facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said system, but did not >> get bootable CDs either way. I also tried mounting the Windows >> partition onto /mnt under 5.2.1 and using the burncd command to burn the >> first file onto a CD-RW and, later, the second file onto a CD-RW. >> Neither attempt gave me a bootable CD. > >What, exactly, was your "burncd" command? Using 4.10 to create 5.3 CDs, >this "just worked", using write-once CDs: > >burncd -f /dev/acd0c data /var/tmp/cd.iso fixate > As root, I did the following (assuming I remember the Windows path correctly:-): mount -t ntfs /dev/ad0s1 /mnt cd /mnt/Documents\ and\ Settings/Scott/My\ Documents/CD-R burncd -f /dev/acd0 data 5.3-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso fixate and later: burncd -f /dev/acd0 data 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso fixate Note that there is no partition letter following the major and minor devices in /dev/acd0 (i.e., no partition 'c' that traditionally encompasses an entire drive in BSD). It is the only name in /dev pertaining to the CD/DVD burner. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ** ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote Scott Bennett thusly... > > I've downloaded the following ISO image files: > > 5.3-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso > 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso > 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso > > I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows XP > Home's own facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said > system, but did not get bootable CDs either way. First time i tried the software of same name unknown version (IBM ThinkPad T42, Windows XP Professional), i selected "Data Disc" and chose the ISO image. Well, it did do its job: i got the ISO image /file/ on the CD. After more poking around in the software interface, "Burn Image" or some such option was revealed under the heading of "Data Disc" or some such. And, that too did its job: i got the mini install ISO image on CD to boot with. - Parv -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Scott Bennett wrote: > I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows XP Home's > own facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said system, but did not > get bootable CDs either way. I also tried mounting the Windows > partition onto /mnt under 5.2.1 and using the burncd command to burn the > first file onto a CD-RW and, later, the second file onto a CD-RW. > Neither attempt gave me a bootable CD. What, exactly, was your "burncd" command? Using 4.10 to create 5.3 CDs, this "just worked", using write-once CDs: burncd -f /dev/acd0c data /var/tmp/cd.iso fixate -- Dave ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
dick hoogendijk wrote: On 03 Jan Scott Bennett wrote: 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows XP Home's own facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said system, but did not get bootable CDs either way. Strange. Every decent burning program on windows (cdrwin, nero) has an option to burn iso _images_ to a cdr(w). Because it is an image(!) the cdr(w) will be bootable (it's an image of a bootable cd). Sonic RecordNow 7.10 as given away by Dell doesn't have an option to burn ISO images. Absolutely stupid, made me furious. -- Robin Becker ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
On 03 Jan Scott Bennett wrote: > 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso > 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso > > I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows XP Home's own > facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said system, but did not get > bootable CDs either way. Strange. Every decent burning program on windows (cdrwin, nero) has an option to burn iso _images_ to a cdr(w). Because it is an image(!) the cdr(w) will be bootable (it's an image of a bootable cd). -- dick -- http://www.nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.10 ++ Debian GNU/Linux (Woody) + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilya ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
burning 5.3-RELEASE CDs
Apparently, I'm going to have to install 5.3 even before I get 5.2.1 into usable shape in order to be able to try NDIS. Sigh. I've downloaded the following ISO image files: 5.3-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso I've also tried burning the first file to CD-Rs using Windows XP Home's own facilities and using Sonic RecordNow! under said system, but did not get bootable CDs either way. I also tried mounting the Windows partition onto /mnt under 5.2.1 and using the burncd command to burn the first file onto a CD-RW and, later, the second file onto a CD-RW. Neither attempt gave me a bootable CD. I've also looked in the _FreeBSD_Handbook_ that came with the 5.2.1 CDs, but did not find explicit instructions on how to make bootable CDs, just some limited instructions on making bootable floppies. If someone would be so kind as to email me instructions on how best to make bootable CDs for 5.3-RELEASE, I'd really appreciate it. (There's probably no need to post them to the list.) Over a month has passed, and I still don't have a usable FreeBSD system (no wireless networking, no graphics support). It's getting to be really depressing. Thanks in advance for any help you can send. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ** ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
