Re: cmos clock to utc time code?

2007-11-09 Thread RW
On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 20:56:44 -0800
jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Nov 8, 2007, at 6:21 PM, Brent Jones wrote:
 
  There's no time zone setting in a cmos clock.  Just set the time to
  whatever UTC is, and you should be good to go.  Ideally though, you
  should have the system do an ntpdate command first, which will take 
  care
  of the clock issue for you.  Just put:
 
  ntpdate_enable=YES
 
  in your rc.conf file, and it will run before ntpd starts.
 I have ntpd_enable=YES
 in /etc/rc.conf already, would there be a conflict?

There's no conflict

 While this machine is being configured with all the
 functional software I want working, hub mail server with
 Cyrus, Apache/php/mysql. while I am getting everything
 set up and tested the machine will not be running 24/7
 so ntpdate would probably be a better choice,

Just run both. 
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cmos clock to utc time code?

2007-11-08 Thread jekillen

Hello again;
Here I am with another awkward question:
I have set up ntp and it is complaining that
the time difference is too great; 3606 or so
seconds, and wants the system clock set to
utc. I rebooted and entered bios set up
but I did not see any explicit clues on how
to set this clock to utc. (0r even if it is possible).
The motherboard is ECS w/AMD64. I did
not catch the bios vendor or version. If  I have
to I will reboot again to look at it or dig up the
manual for the motherboard.
I tried sysinstall but it just asks if the system
clock is set to utc. (thus the question here)
Any advice, suggestions, info appreciated;
Thanks in advance
Jeff K

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Re: cmos clock to utc time code?

2007-11-08 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
jekillen wrote:
 Hello again;
 Here I am with another awkward question:
 I have set up ntp and it is complaining that
 the time difference is too great; 3606 or so
 seconds, and wants the system clock set to
 utc. I rebooted and entered bios set up
 but I did not see any explicit clues on how
 to set this clock to utc. (0r even if it is possible).
 The motherboard is ECS w/AMD64. I did
 not catch the bios vendor or version. If  I have
 to I will reboot again to look at it or dig up the
 manual for the motherboard.
 I tried sysinstall but it just asks if the system
 clock is set to utc. (thus the question here)
 Any advice, suggestions, info appreciated;
 Thanks in advance
 Jeff K
This doesn't really have anything to do with your CMOS clock.

sysctl kern.securelevel

at  1, you can't change the clock by more than 1 second.

man 7 securelevel

Look for phrase - 'The security levels are:'

You can't lower it without rebooting.
You can change it in /etc/rc.conf(5).

$ grep secure /etc/rc.conf
  kern_securelevel=-1
  kern_securelevel_enable=YES

Or your could boot single user mode and run ntpdate once yourself since
the securelevel (securit level) isn't set until you go multi-user mode.
$ ntpdate server.com

HOWEVER, I recommend the new fangled way you are supposed to do this:
1) Enable it in /etc/rc.conf(5)
  echo 'ntpd_enable=YES'  /etc/rc.conf
  echo 'ntpd_sync_on_start=YES'  /etc/rc.conf

2) Create /etc/ntp.conf(5)
  echo server ntp-1.vt.edu  /etc/rc.conf
  echo driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift  /etc/rc.conf

Use time servers close to you though and more than 1.

3) Reboot

Finally, about the timezone
By default sysinstall(8) copies a file from /usr/share/zoneinfo to /etc
as file localtime based on your choices during the install.  You can
even run sysinstall again to update it post install.

ls -l /etc/localtime
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  -  1.2K Jul 25 14:58:48 2007 /etc/localtime

HOWEVER, its easier to just create a symlink to the one you want.
If you want your system to run in utc time do this:
cd /etc
sudo rm -rf /etc/localtime
sudo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/etc/UTC localtime


Test it:
$ date

(bash syntax)
$ TZ=America/New_York date

.

Check your ntpd(8) communications with time servers:
$ ntpq -p
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
==
*ntp-1.cns.vt.ed 198.82.247.402 u   97 1024  377   15.690   37.394
23.382


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Re: cmos clock to utc time code?

2007-11-08 Thread jekillen


On Nov 8, 2007, at 6:21 PM, Brent Jones wrote:


There's no time zone setting in a cmos clock.  Just set the time to
whatever UTC is, and you should be good to go.  Ideally though, you
should have the system do an ntpdate command first, which will take 
care

of the clock issue for you.  Just put:

ntpdate_enable=YES

in your rc.conf file, and it will run before ntpd starts.

I have ntpd_enable=YES
in /etc/rc.conf already, would there be a conflict?
While this machine is being configured with all the
functional software I want working, hub mail server with
Cyrus, Apache/php/mysql. while I am getting everything
set up and tested the machine will not be running 24/7
so ntpdate would probably be a better choice, but once
all is square with the world, it will be running 24/7 and I
have three other machines that will use it to get their
time set (unless I have misunderstood and this is not
possible or practical)
Thank you for your response
Jeff K



-Original Message-
Hello again;
Here I am with another awkward question:
I have set up ntp and it is complaining that
the time difference is too great; 3606 or so
seconds, and wants the system clock set to
utc. I rebooted and entered bios set up
but I did not see any explicit clues on how
to set this clock to utc. (0r even if it is possible).
The motherboard is ECS w/AMD64. I did
not catch the bios vendor or version. If  I have
to I will reboot again to look at it or dig up the
manual for the motherboard.
I tried sysinstall but it just asks if the system
clock is set to utc. (thus the question here)
Any advice, suggestions, info appreciated;
Thanks in advance
Jeff K


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