Re: ct Re: NMAP probing of network ports

2005-09-19 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Boris Karloff wrote:


Chris wrote:
   


On Fri, 16 Sep 2005, Boris Karloff wrote:

Ain't you 'sposed to be dead?!
 


That's Bela Lugosi...
   


Actually, so is Boris ---
 

Bela Lugosi famously died in the middle of filming Plan 9 from Outer 
Space (http://www.badmovies.org/movies/plannine/) and is eulogised in a 
Bauhaus song  "Bela Lugosi's Dead" 
(http://www.waste.org/bauhaus/l/belalugosisdead.html)


I imagine the original poster was being tongue in cheek, and so was I, 
if, perhaps, rather obscurely.


--Alex

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Re: ct Re: NMAP probing of network ports

2005-09-18 Thread Boris Karloff
>Chris wrote:

>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2005, Boris Karloff wrote:
>>
>> Ain't you 'sposed to be dead?!

>That's Bela Lugosi...

>--Alex


Actually, so is Boris ---

My e-mail provider is upgrading the mail server, and
apparently someone either mistyped my name when moving my
account, or one of the employees there is making a joke. I
get that a lot.

I'm working with my e-mail provider now trying to get this
fixed. For some reason, they seem to be a little busy at the
moment -- upgrading an e-mail service isn't simple; and this
has a low priority with them.

I'm actually pleased someone noticed. Thanks guys.

Harold Karloff.

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Re: ct Re: NMAP probing of network ports

2005-09-16 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Chris wrote:


On Fri, 16 Sep 2005, Boris Karloff wrote:

Ain't you 'sposed to be dead?!


That's Bela Lugosi...

--Alex

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Re: ct Re: NMAP probing of network ports

2005-09-16 Thread Chuck Swiger

Boris Karloff wrote:

Thank you for your reply.

Nmap is generating many tcp commands:

arp who-has 192.168.0.x tell 192.168.0.5 


where x is an incremented number from 0 through 255. The
192.168.0.5 address changes from scan to scan, so blocking
the port 192.168.0.5 doesn't work. 


That's not a TCP command, that's layer-2 ARP traffic, used to map ethernet MAC 
addresses to IP addresses.  Unless you're being scanned from different machines 
on your LAN, or unless you are scanning from different machines on your LAN, 
such traffic will only come from the IP of the subnet's router.


While you could configure /etc/ethers and disable ARP, frankly, I suspect you 
are not solving the problem you think you'd be solving.


--
-Chuck

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Re: ct Re: NMAP probing of network ports

2005-09-16 Thread Chris

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005, Boris Karloff wrote:

Ain't you 'sposed to be dead?!

Best regards,
Chris

Fact is solidified opinion.
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Re: ct Re: NMAP probing of network ports

2005-09-16 Thread Boris Karloff
Thank you for your reply.

Nmap is generating many tcp commands:

arp who-has 192.168.0.x tell 192.168.0.5 

where x is an incremented number from 0 through 255. The
192.168.0.5 address changes from scan to scan, so blocking
the port 192.168.0.5 doesn't work. 

This behavior is similar to the W32.Welchia.Worm that
plagues windoze boxes. 

Any thoughts on how to stop replying to this command?

Thanks.
Harold.

>On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 07:36:36AM -0500, Boris Karloff
wrote:
>> It appears that when FreeBSD is sent an invalid packet
>> without the SYN or ACK bits set, it responds with a RESET
>> reply regardless of the ipfw rules. It appears this is
one
>> of the things nmap is exploiting.
>> 
>> Any suggestions on how to modify this behavior?
>
>man blackhole
>

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Re: ct Re: NMAP probing of network ports

2005-09-16 Thread Boris Karloff
Thank you for your reply.

As you can see from my first message, blackhole did not
work.

Harold

On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 07:36:36AM -0500, Boris Karloff
wrote:
> It appears that when FreeBSD is sent an invalid packet
> without the SYN or ACK bits set, it responds with a RESET
> reply regardless of the ipfw rules. It appears this is one
> of the things nmap is exploiting.
> 
> Any suggestions on how to modify this behavior?

man blackhole
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Re: ct Re: NMAP probing of network ports

2005-09-16 Thread Bob Hall
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 07:36:36AM -0500, Boris Karloff wrote:
> It appears that when FreeBSD is sent an invalid packet
> without the SYN or ACK bits set, it responds with a RESET
> reply regardless of the ipfw rules. It appears this is one
> of the things nmap is exploiting.
> 
> Any suggestions on how to modify this behavior?

man blackhole
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ct Re: NMAP probing of network ports

2005-09-16 Thread Boris Karloff
>On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 01:43:56PM -0500, Boris Karloff
wrote:
>> Hello:
>> 
>> How do I cause freeBSD 5.4 to not respond to an nmap
>> inquiry? I have already tried creating a line in
rc.firewall
>> that says: 
>> 
>> ${fwcmd} deny all from any to any
>> ${fwcmd} drop all from any to any
>> 
>> I know these are active, since 1) I see them on the
screen
>> at startup, and 2) pinging from any computer to any
computer
>> results in a timeout.
>> 
>> (both of these should drop all TCP packets; but
apparently,
>> they cause a RESET message to be sent.)

>Umm, try putting the drop before the deny.  AFAIK, drop
just drops >the
>packet totally, and deny sends a RST back to the host. 
That is if >ipfw
>works that way (ICBW). You don't need both these lines
anyway, only >one
>of them.


Thank you for your reply. My first message may have been a
little misleading. I had tried each line separately (they
only differ in the 'deny' and 'drop'). I should have been
more clear. I had also restarted the computer between
changes, just to be sure.

If the two rules were used in a single file, the second line
would never be executed; since the first rule would
terminate the rule checking; or the second rule would not
test true if the first did not, because it is identical to
the first. These commands have to be used independently. I
meant to imply they were tried separately.

It appears that when FreeBSD is sent an invalid packet
without the SYN or ACK bits set, it responds with a RESET
reply regardless of the ipfw rules. It appears this is one
of the things nmap is exploiting.

Any suggestions on how to modify this behavior?

Thanks.

Harold.

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