Re: difficult-to-phrase question...

2009-09-08 Thread RW
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 18:34:15 -0700
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 01:56:12AM +0100, RW wrote:

  Wouldn't you be better-off just turning-off session management, and
  using autostart instead
 
 
 
   sounds like a good idea; how do i accomplish this?  

The Session Manager  in Control Center lets you turn it off, and you
can drag application icons into  ~/.kde/Autostart  to have them
autostart instead.

 also,
 what if i have a  konqueror running and sites running and the power
 goes out. sometimes i want the apps to restart, not usually.  is it
 possible to save Some programs state and let others go?

The Session Manager lets you exempt applications, but I'm not sure if
you can distinguish  konqueror browsers from file managers though.

In other browsers crash recovery works independently of session
management, I think you probably do need it with konqueror but I'm not
sure.
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Re: difficult-to-phrase question...

2009-09-07 Thread RW
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:43:30 -0700
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:

 
   i can use grep to find S and grep gives me the file[s] that
   have the string.  now, is there any easy way of reading that
   file, or deleting or otherwise munging that file?
 
   nutshell is that every time i reboot (into kde), kde wastes
   time/cpu spawning unwanted whatever: versions of konqueror,
 kttsd, ksayit, 

Wouldn't you be better-off just turning-off session management, and
using autostart instead
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Re: difficult-to-phrase question...

2009-09-07 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 01:56:12AM +0100, RW wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:43:30 -0700
 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 
  
  i can use grep to find S and grep gives me the file[s] that
  have the string.  now, is there any easy way of reading that
  file, or deleting or otherwise munging that file?
  
  nutshell is that every time i reboot (into kde), kde wastes
  time/cpu spawning unwanted whatever: versions of konqueror,
  kttsd, ksayit, 
 
 Wouldn't you be better-off just turning-off session management, and
 using autostart instead



sounds like a good idea; how do i accomplish this?  also, what if i 
have 
a  konqueror running and sites running and the power goes out.
sometimes i want the apps to restart, not usually.  is it possible to
save Some programs state and let others go?

gary

ps:  i'm new to kde/gnome, but here on tao [freebsd] have mostly kde[3]
 going.  some cli tools, like mutt, are almost sacred. 
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Re: difficult-to-phrase question...

2009-09-03 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 08:02:18PM -0400, Jon Radel wrote:
 Gary Kline wrote:
 
  guys, (of either gender)
 
  here's one that is a bit difficult to figure out how to ask, but
  here's my first shot:
 
  i'm looking for a file what contains string S.  the filename
  in this case has a zillion letters, but that beside the point.
 
  i can use grep to find S and grep gives me the file[s] that
  have the string.  now, is there any easy way of reading that
  file, or deleting or otherwise munging that file?
 
  nutshell is that every time i reboot (into kde), kde wastes
  time/cpu spawning unwanted whatever: versions of konqueror, kttsd,
  ksayit, c.  [[i found these files in
  ~/.kde/share/config/session, about  20, dated may, 09 to oct 08.
  rm'ing the bunch would get rid of the instantiate problem, but
  having a script to diddle with a found string S would be
  useful esp'ly if the filename of pathname were long.
 
  i'll mouse swipe the string and fname to prove my point.
  thanks for any help.  
 
  gary
 
  ps: if scripting this is too grizzly i'll do it in C and do an
  inline post of src and example use.
 
 
 Do you mean something like
 
 rm `grep -l S *`


Or, more specifically, maybe 

$ cmd `grep -lr S *`  [??]  I'll try that on the string I was looking
for.  

Polytropon, I have only the vaguest clue what your suggestion was, 
sorry.
To Adam, yeah, I have indeed removed these surplus kde apps, but the
session file is still there each time.  So the apps are reinstantianted 
every time.  --I'm going to blow them away.  

gary


 
 or am I completely missing the point of what you're trying to do?
 
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Re: difficult-to-phrase question...

2009-09-03 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 02:05:57AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:43:30 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
  i'm looking for a file what contains string S.  the filename
  in this case has a zillion letters, but that beside the point.
  
  i can use grep to find S and grep gives me the file[s] that
  have the string.  now, is there any easy way of reading that
  file, or deleting or otherwise munging that file?
 
 I would suggest one of my favourite tools, the Midnight Commander,
 available via ports as misc/mc or misc/mc-lite - or from a
 package.
 
 First you run the find dialog, Meta-? (Esc, ?, if you don't have
 a Meta key). Enter file mask if needed, starting directory (usu-
 ally .) and S for the search string. Then a list with the items
 found will come up.
 
 In order to view a file from this list, press PF3 on a file. The
 viewer will automatically skip to where S has been found in the
 file. If you press ENTER on the file, it will be selected in one
 of the panels, and you can move or delete it.
 
 
 
  ps: if scripting this is too grizzly i'll do it in C and do an
  inline post of src and example use.
 
 If you exactly know what to do with the file, scripting might be
 the easiest solution. The more interaction, the less optimum it
 is. :-)


you're right.  originally, i was thinking of simplr /bin/rm.  find a 
string, and move that file into some junk file or just remove it. 
then i thought about viewing it with more|vi.  or cp'ing the file.
etc.  mv seems to have already been invented!!

gary


 
 
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Re: difficult-to-phrase question...

2009-09-02 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:


guys, (of either gender)

here's one that is a bit difficult to figure out how to ask, but
here's my first shot:

i'm looking for a file what contains string S.  the filename
in this case has a zillion letters, but that beside the point.

i can use grep to find S and grep gives me the file[s] that
have the string.  now, is there any easy way of reading that
file, or deleting or otherwise munging that file?

nutshell is that every time i reboot (into kde), kde wastes
time/cpu spawning unwanted whatever: versions of konqueror, kttsd,
ksayit, c.  [[i found these files in
~/.kde/share/config/session, about  20, dated may, 09 to oct 08.
rm'ing the bunch would get rid of the instantiate problem, but
having a script to diddle with a found string S would be
useful esp'ly if the filename of pathname were long.

i'll mouse swipe the string and fname to prove my point.
thanks for any help.

gary

ps: if scripting this is too grizzly i'll do it in C and do an
inline post of src and example use.




 p4 16:18 tao [5058] rgr www.h-online
  ~/.kde/share/config/session

 ./konqueror_101be1a31b9d100012436384840011730067_1243656675_647947:12:ViewT0_URL[$e]=
 http://www.h-online.com/open/Google-Wave-The-instant-wiki-communicator--/news/113410

 Have you tried logging out of kde with those apps closed?


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difficult-to-phrase question...

2009-09-02 Thread Gary Kline

guys, (of either gender)

here's one that is a bit difficult to figure out how to ask, but
here's my first shot:

i'm looking for a file what contains string S.  the filename
in this case has a zillion letters, but that beside the point.

i can use grep to find S and grep gives me the file[s] that
have the string.  now, is there any easy way of reading that
file, or deleting or otherwise munging that file?

nutshell is that every time i reboot (into kde), kde wastes
time/cpu spawning unwanted whatever: versions of konqueror, kttsd,
ksayit, c.  [[i found these files in
~/.kde/share/config/session, about  20, dated may, 09 to oct 08.
rm'ing the bunch would get rid of the instantiate problem, but
having a script to diddle with a found string S would be
useful esp'ly if the filename of pathname were long.

i'll mouse swipe the string and fname to prove my point.
thanks for any help.  

gary

ps: if scripting this is too grizzly i'll do it in C and do an
inline post of src and example use.




p4 16:18 tao [5058] rgr www.h-online  ~/.kde/share/config/session
./konqueror_101be1a31b9d100012436384840011730067_1243656675_647947:12:ViewT0_URL[$e]=http://www.h-online.com/open/Google-Wave-The-instant-wiki-communicator--/news/113410





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Re: difficult-to-phrase question...

2009-09-02 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:43:30 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
   i'm looking for a file what contains string S.  the filename
   in this case has a zillion letters, but that beside the point.
 
   i can use grep to find S and grep gives me the file[s] that
   have the string.  now, is there any easy way of reading that
   file, or deleting or otherwise munging that file?

I would suggest one of my favourite tools, the Midnight Commander,
available via ports as misc/mc or misc/mc-lite - or from a
package.

First you run the find dialog, Meta-? (Esc, ?, if you don't have
a Meta key). Enter file mask if needed, starting directory (usu-
ally .) and S for the search string. Then a list with the items
found will come up.

In order to view a file from this list, press PF3 on a file. The
viewer will automatically skip to where S has been found in the
file. If you press ENTER on the file, it will be selected in one
of the panels, and you can move or delete it.



   ps: if scripting this is too grizzly i'll do it in C and do an
   inline post of src and example use.

If you exactly know what to do with the file, scripting might be
the easiest solution. The more interaction, the less optimum it
is. :-)


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Re: difficult-to-phrase question...

2009-09-02 Thread Jon Radel

Gary Kline wrote:


guys, (of either gender)

here's one that is a bit difficult to figure out how to ask, but
here's my first shot:

i'm looking for a file what contains string S.  the filename
in this case has a zillion letters, but that beside the point.

i can use grep to find S and grep gives me the file[s] that
have the string.  now, is there any easy way of reading that
file, or deleting or otherwise munging that file?

nutshell is that every time i reboot (into kde), kde wastes
time/cpu spawning unwanted whatever: versions of konqueror, kttsd,
ksayit, c.  [[i found these files in
~/.kde/share/config/session, about  20, dated may, 09 to oct 08.
rm'ing the bunch would get rid of the instantiate problem, but
having a script to diddle with a found string S would be
useful esp'ly if the filename of pathname were long.

i'll mouse swipe the string and fname to prove my point.
	thanks for any help.  


gary

ps: if scripting this is too grizzly i'll do it in C and do an
inline post of src and example use.



Do you mean something like

rm `grep -l S *`

or am I completely missing the point of what you're trying to do?

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