Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 21:05, Gary Kline wrote: ks like. > > Yeah, I wound up trying the defaults because my custom creates > failed. With thr "auto defaults" newfs works, but I error out > on /usr. /usr is large.So the mount will fail, etc. (??) > Maybe a smaller /usr is the trick. That's highly unlikely, FreeBSD 5.3 supports multi-terabyte filesystems. I suspect that you still have 3 primary partitions. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount
On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 08:05:57PM +, RW wrote: > On Wednesday 23 March 2005 19:28, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 02:08:19PM -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > > > On Mar 23, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > If memory servers, the slices I created were > > > > ad0s2 / > > > > ad0s3 SWAP > > > > ad0s4 /usr > > > > > > People normally create a BSD partition table within an FDISK partition, > > > so / would be on ad0s2a, rather than using all of ad0s2 for a single > > > filesystem. Then you can put swap on ad0s2b, and so forth and just use > > > on FDISK partition, rather than using three... > > > > How do I use/reach FDISK via the CD installation script? > > I've looked at the kwik way and the Custom (for experts). > > If I use the "Allocate" menu I see the FDISK editor. > > What then? So far I've simply used "C = Create Slice"; > > then in the following menu I've labeled the slices. > > > > Which option in the screen/editor? Or how-to FDISK > > ad0s2 any other way? > > It's part of the normal, menu-driven, installation process; first you create > 1 > slice (primary partition) then you go through to the next stage where you > carve the slice into partition. The second stage is called labelling, and > there is a option to lay out the slice automatically. Even if you don't plan > to use it you should do that to see what the default looks like. Yeah, I wound up trying the defaults because my custom creates failed. With thr "auto defaults" newfs works, but I error out on /usr. /usr is large.So the mount will fail, etc. (??) Maybe a smaller /usr is the trick. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 20:05, RW wrote: > Even > if you don't plan to use it you should do that to see what the default > looks like. Don't forget to delete the three partitions and create a single large slice, if you try to create a default set of partitions on a slice dimensioned to take / it will probably fail. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 19:28, Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 02:08:19PM -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > > On Mar 23, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > If memory servers, the slices I created were > > > ad0s2 / > > > ad0s3 SWAP > > > ad0s4 /usr > > > > People normally create a BSD partition table within an FDISK partition, > > so / would be on ad0s2a, rather than using all of ad0s2 for a single > > filesystem. Then you can put swap on ad0s2b, and so forth and just use > > on FDISK partition, rather than using three... > > How do I use/reach FDISK via the CD installation script? > I've looked at the kwik way and the Custom (for experts). > If I use the "Allocate" menu I see the FDISK editor. > What then? So far I've simply used "C = Create Slice"; > then in the following menu I've labeled the slices. > > Which option in the screen/editor? Or how-to FDISK > ad0s2 any other way? It's part of the normal, menu-driven, installation process; first you create 1 slice (primary partition) then you go through to the next stage where you carve the slice into partition. The second stage is called labelling, and there is a option to lay out the slice automatically. Even if you don't plan to use it you should do that to see what the default looks like. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount
On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 02:08:19PM -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > On Mar 23, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > If memory servers, the slices I created were > > ad0s2 / > > ad0s3 SWAP > > ad0s4 /usr > > People normally create a BSD partition table within an FDISK partition, > so / would be on ad0s2a, rather than using all of ad0s2 for a single > filesystem. Then you can put swap on ad0s2b, and so forth and just use > on FDISK partition, rather than using three... How do I use/reach FDISK via the CD installation script? I've looked at the kwik way and the Custom (for experts). If I use the "Allocate" menu I see the FDISK editor. What then? So far I've simply used "C = Create Slice"; then in the following menu I've labeled the slices. Which option in the screen/editor? Or how-to FDISK ad0s2 any other way? thanks, gary > > -- > -Chuck > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 06:22:43PM +, RW wrote: >> On Wednesday 23 March 2005 06:44, Gary Kline wrote: >> >The first CD boots 5.3 ad brings up /stand/sysinstall. >> >Every options I have tries sees the "NTFS" as ad0s1. >> > >> >Is there another choice to chose to divvy up the drive >> >to give me more than three slices? This is where the >> >handbook gets muddy. >> > >> >Can anybody 'splain this better?? >> >> FreeBSD is not Linux. >> >> Linux uses the same partitioning as Windows, 4 primary partitions, or 3 >> primaries and an extended partition. >> >> FreeBSD has its own type of partitioning scheme which you could put >> directly >> onto the disk, but this is known as "dangerously-dedicated mode" since >> it >> isn't compatible with other non-bsd OSs and might cause problems with >> some >> BIOSes. >> >> Most people will install FreeBSD in what's known as a slice, this wraps >> a >> group of native BSD partitions inside a normal PC primary partition. You >> only >> need one slice for a FreeBSD installation. >> >> >> >Which sections should I print out and go in a corner to read? >> >> The one called "Installing FreeBSD" > > > If memory servers, the slices I created were > ad0s2 / Sorry for jumping in here but I've never seen a filesystem with a device name like that before. As I understand it the device name reads like this: ad0 <-- primary ATA disk on first IDE cable s2 <-- second slice (what DOS/Windows/Linux call a partition) a <-- first partition (BSD definition of a partition) Your list appears to be missing the 'a'. This would indicate to me that you mistyped your example or didn't run disklabel (or bsdlabel) to setup the FreeBSD partitions. Can one run newfs on the slice without using disklabel first? I didn't think that was possible. I know you can run disklabel directly on the disk (ie ad0) and you wind up with devices missing the 'sX' part, like ad0a. I do this to zip disks all the time. > ad0s3 SWAP > ad0s4 /usr > > I tagged ad0s2 to be bootable; selected everything to be > installed and okay the create script. /usr had trouble > with newfs because of a bad superblock in 0s4. My guess > is that the difficulty stems from a foul-up from the > disk labeling. > > I've been installing BSD since 4.1 at Cal and FreeBSD > since 2.0.5; I'm familiar with the standard protocols. > This is my first go at trying to dual-boot such > different systems. > > gary > > -- >Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service > Unix > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean_AT_hedron_DOT_org PGP KeyID: 1024D/CBC5D6BB URL: http://www.hedron.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount
On Mar 23, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Gary Kline wrote: If memory servers, the slices I created were ad0s2 / ad0s3 SWAP ad0s4 /usr People normally create a BSD partition table within an FDISK partition, so / would be on ad0s2a, rather than using all of ad0s2 for a single filesystem. Then you can put swap on ad0s2b, and so forth and just use on FDISK partition, rather than using three... -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount
On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 06:22:43PM +, RW wrote: > On Wednesday 23 March 2005 06:44, Gary Kline wrote: > > The first CD boots 5.3 ad brings up /stand/sysinstall. > > Every options I have tries sees the "NTFS" as ad0s1. > > > > Is there another choice to chose to divvy up the drive > > to give me more than three slices? This is where the > > handbook gets muddy. > > > > Can anybody 'splain this better?? > > FreeBSD is not Linux. > > Linux uses the same partitioning as Windows, 4 primary partitions, or 3 > primaries and an extended partition. > > FreeBSD has its own type of partitioning scheme which you could put directly > onto the disk, but this is known as "dangerously-dedicated mode" since it > isn't compatible with other non-bsd OSs and might cause problems with some > BIOSes. > > Most people will install FreeBSD in what's known as a slice, this wraps a > group of native BSD partitions inside a normal PC primary partition. You only > need one slice for a FreeBSD installation. > > > > Which sections should I print out and go in a corner to read? > > The one called "Installing FreeBSD" If memory servers, the slices I created were ad0s2 / ad0s3 SWAP ad0s4 /usr I tagged ad0s2 to be bootable; selected everything to be installed and okay the create script. /usr had trouble with newfs because of a bad superblock in 0s4. My guess is that the difficulty stems from a foul-up from the disk labeling. I've been installing BSD since 4.1 at Cal and FreeBSD since 2.0.5; I'm familiar with the standard protocols. This is my first go at trying to dual-boot such different systems. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 06:44, Gary Kline wrote: > The first CD boots 5.3 ad brings up /stand/sysinstall. > Every options I have tries sees the "NTFS" as ad0s1. > > Is there another choice to chose to divvy up the drive > to give me more than three slices? This is where the > handbook gets muddy. > > Can anybody 'splain this better?? FreeBSD is not Linux. Linux uses the same partitioning as Windows, 4 primary partitions, or 3 primaries and an extended partition. FreeBSD has its own type of partitioning scheme which you could put directly onto the disk, but this is known as "dangerously-dedicated mode" since it isn't compatible with other non-bsd OSs and might cause problems with some BIOSes. Most people will install FreeBSD in what's known as a slice, this wraps a group of native BSD partitions inside a normal PC primary partition. You only need one slice for a FreeBSD installation. > Which sections should I print out and go in a corner to read? The one called "Installing FreeBSD" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 09:44:46PM -0500, jason henson wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > > I'm having trouble installing 5.3 from my 4CD set. I have > > a 10G Window partition; That leaves 3 slices available. > > > > I have tried various sizes for /, SWAP, and /usr, but newfs > > consistantly has trouble mounting /usr. I have no idea why. > > After I hit return, the install completes, I reboot to see > > > > F1: ??? > > F2: FreeBSD > > F3: FreeBSD > > F4: FreeBSD > > > > F1 brings up my W2k; F2 boots FBSD but there is a system > > error swhen it tried to mount /usr. I tried by-hand. No-joy. > > Anybody know what I'm doing wrong? (Must I use the NT > > bootloader, etc?) > > > > gary > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like you have 3 root "partitions" for FBSD and one for windows. I > think you are dividing the disk up to soon. You only divide ad0 into > ad0s1(w2k) and ad0s2(ufs). The first CD boots 5.3 ad brings up /stand/sysinstall. Every options I have tries sees the "NTFS" as ad0s1. Is there another choice to chose to divvy up the drive to give me more than three slices? This is where the handbook gets muddy. Can anybody 'splain this better?? > Then in the FBSD disk labeler you make /, > swap, /usr, /tmp, etc So to recap it seems you have made ad0s1, > ad0s2, ad0s3, and ad0s4 and the boot loader asks which you what to boot > from. So there is no /usr(I guess) on ad0s2, you put it on ad0s3. > Print out the steps from the handbook if you need to. Which sections should I print out and go in a corner to read? gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount
Gary Kline wrote: I'm having trouble installing 5.3 from my 4CD set. I have a 10G Window partition; That leaves 3 slices available. I have tried various sizes for /, SWAP, and /usr, but newfs consistantly has trouble mounting /usr. I have no idea why. After I hit return, the install completes, I reboot to see F1: ??? F2: FreeBSD F3: FreeBSD F4: FreeBSD F1 brings up my W2k; F2 boots FBSD but there is a system error swhen it tried to mount /usr. I tried by-hand. No-joy. Anybody know what I'm doing wrong? (Must I use the NT bootloader, etc?) gary Looks like you have 3 root "partitions" for FBSD and one for windows. I think you are dividing the disk up to soon. You only divide ad0 into ad0s1(w2k) and ad0s2(ufs). Then in the FBSD disk labeler you make /, swap, /usr, /tmp, etc So to recap it seems you have made ad0s1, ad0s2, ad0s3, and ad0s4 and the boot loader asks which you what to boot from. So there is no /usr(I guess) on ad0s2, you put it on ad0s3. Print out the steps from the handbook if you need to. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount
I'm having trouble installing 5.3 from my 4CD set. I have a 10G Window partition; That leaves 3 slices available. I have tried various sizes for /, SWAP, and /usr, but newfs consistantly has trouble mounting /usr. I have no idea why. After I hit return, the install completes, I reboot to see F1: ??? F2: FreeBSD F3: FreeBSD F4: FreeBSD F1 brings up my W2k; F2 boots FBSD but there is a system error swhen it tried to mount /usr. I tried by-hand. No-joy. Anybody know what I'm doing wrong? (Must I use the NT bootloader, etc?) gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
