Re: file sizes

2003-11-13 Thread Bryan Cassidy
Thanks. Just what I was looking for. 

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:12:30 +0100
Jakob Breivik Grimstveit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 00:01, Bryan Cassidy wrote:
> 
> > Trying to figure out how to find out the size of a file. 
> 
> Try...
> 
> ls -l 
> ls -lh 
> du -h 
> 
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Re: file sizes

2003-11-12 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> Trying to figure out how to find out the size of a file. 
> 

Check  man ls for "ls -l"

jerry

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Re: file sizes

2003-11-12 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Nov 12), Bryan Cassidy said:
> Trying to figure out how to find out the size of a file. 

ls -l myfile

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Re: file sizes

2003-11-12 Thread Jakob Breivik Grimstveit
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 00:01, Bryan Cassidy wrote:

> Trying to figure out how to find out the size of a file. 

Try...

ls -l 
ls -lh 
du -h 

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file sizes

2003-11-12 Thread Bryan Cassidy
Trying to figure out how to find out the size of a file. 

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Re: Wrong file sizes in the stand directory

2002-12-08 Thread Ceri Davies
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 08:20:58AM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi, I installed the 4.7-mini.iso and found the following:
> 
> total 70766
> -r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 -sh
> -r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 [



> Everything else is OK, fsck reports a clean system, df sees normal size.
> What's the problem?

What do you believe to be the problem (you didn't say) ?

If you're referring to the fact that they all have the same size, it's
because they (mostly) all the same file.

> -r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 zcat

See that there are 33 hardlinks to this file.

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Wrong file sizes in the stand directory

2002-12-08 Thread fb . h . ds
Hi, I installed the 4.7-mini.iso and found the following:

total 70766
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 -sh
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 [
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 arp
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 boot_crunch
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 camcontrol
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 cpio
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 dhclient
-r-xr-xr-x   1 root  wheel 7175 Oct 10 01:18 dhclient-script
drwx--   3 root  wheel  512 Dec  8 07:01 etc
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 find
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 fsck
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 gunzip
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 gzip
drwxr-xr-x   2 root  wheel 1024 Dec  8 07:01 help
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 hostname
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 ifconfig
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 minigzip
drwxr-xr-x   2 root  wheel  512 Dec  8 07:01 modules
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 mount_mfs
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 mount_nfs
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 newfs
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 pccardc
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 pccardd
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 ppp
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 pwd
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 rm
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 route
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 rtsol
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 sed
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 sh
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 slattach
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 sysinstall
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 test
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 tunefs
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 usbd
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 usbdevs
-r-xr-xr-x  33 root  wheel  2175016 Oct 10 01:09 zcat


Everything else is OK, fsck reports a clean system, df sees normal size.
What's the problem?

Thanks.
DS




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Re: Always mystified by this. /stand file sizes

2002-12-02 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 11:34:50AM +, Rob O'Donnell wrote:
> At 12:21 02/12/2002 +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> >On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 02:25:59AM -0800, David Schultz wrote:
> >>
> >> See crunchgen(1).
> >
> >Oh, that looks interesting :)
> >I never knew of such a thing, is it a well kept secret or am I not
> >widely read-enough ?
> >In point of fact I am slightly puzzled by /stand's existance. It says in
> >"hier" that it is for stand-alone systems. What exactly is it referring
> >to ? (Yes I know what stand-alone means ! But what context is this used
> >in ?)
> 
> PicoBSD (see the scripts in ports and the freebsd-small mailing list) uses
> it extensively to fit a subset of commands onto small media (typically a
> single floppy disc) for use in niche aplications (eg a diskless pc as a 
> router).
> 
Ok, mmm, will file that away for future reference.
That's my first bit of new knowledge for the week, and it's only Monday :)
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Re: Always mystified by this. /stand file sizes

2002-12-02 Thread Rob O'Donnell
At 12:21 02/12/2002 +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:

On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 02:25:59AM -0800, David Schultz wrote:
>
> See crunchgen(1).

Oh, that looks interesting :)
I never knew of such a thing, is it a well kept secret or am I not
widely read-enough ?
In point of fact I am slightly puzzled by /stand's existance. It says in
"hier" that it is for stand-alone systems. What exactly is it referring
to ? (Yes I know what stand-alone means ! But what context is this used
in ?)


PicoBSD (see the scripts in ports and the freebsd-small mailing list) uses
it extensively to fit a subset of commands onto small media (typically a
single floppy disc) for use in niche aplications (eg a diskless pc as a 
router).


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Re: Always mystified by this. /stand file sizes

2002-12-02 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 02:25:59AM -0800, David Schultz wrote:
> Thus spake Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >  I have been meaning to ask this since I started using FreeBSD but have
> > never dared to, since I thought I ought to know :)
> > Excerpt from /stand
> > 
> > -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 -sh
> > -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 [
> > -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 arp
> > -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 boot_crunch
> > -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 cpio
> > -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 dhclient
> > ..
> > etc
> > 
> > What does this mean all these things of size 1865544.
> > And where is /stand exactly ? It certainly isn't taking up all
> > this space on root...
> 
> See crunchgen(1).

Oh, that looks interesting :)
I never knew of such a thing, is it a well kept secret or am I not
widely read-enough ?
In point of fact I am slightly puzzled by /stand's existance. It says in
"hier" that it is for stand-alone systems. What exactly is it referring
to ? (Yes I know what stand-alone means ! But what context is this used
in ?)

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Re: Always mystified by this. /stand file sizes

2002-12-02 Thread David Schultz
Thus spake Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  I have been meaning to ask this since I started using FreeBSD but have
> never dared to, since I thought I ought to know :)
> Excerpt from /stand
> 
> -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 -sh
> -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 [
> -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 arp
> -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 boot_crunch
> -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 cpio
> -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 dhclient
> ..
> etc
> 
> What does this mean all these things of size 1865544.
> And where is /stand exactly ? It certainly isn't taking up all
> this space on root...

See crunchgen(1).

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Re: Always mystified by this. /stand file sizes

2002-12-01 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 07:50:30AM +0100, Ruben de Groot wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 07:38:15AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson typed:
> >  I have been meaning to ask this since I started using FreeBSD but have
> > never dared to, since I thought I ought to know :)
> > Excerpt from /stand
> > 
> > -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 -sh
> > -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 [
> > -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 arp
> > -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 boot_crunch
> > -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 cpio
> > -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 dhclient
>  
> 
> Look at the hard link count (31). It's just one binary, which will behave 
>differently 
> depending on the name you call it by.
> 
Yes.
I should have noticed that.
Now I do :)

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Re: Always mystified by this. /stand file sizes

2002-12-01 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 07:38:15AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson typed:
>  I have been meaning to ask this since I started using FreeBSD but have
> never dared to, since I thought I ought to know :)
> Excerpt from /stand
> 
> -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 -sh
> -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 [
> -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 arp
> -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 boot_crunch
> -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 cpio
> -r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 dhclient
 

Look at the hard link count (31). It's just one binary, which will behave differently 
depending on the name you call it by.

> ..
> etc
> 
> What does this mean all these things of size 1865544.
> And where is /stand exactly ? It certainly isn't taking up all
> this space on root...
> 
> I feel today is the day I will finally know...I have given up trying to
> work it out.
> 
> Please feel free to chastise me .. as someone who has worked on Unix
> systems for a long time, I feel I should know...
> 
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Always mystified by this. /stand file sizes

2002-12-01 Thread Cliff Sarginson
 I have been meaning to ask this since I started using FreeBSD but have
never dared to, since I thought I ought to know :)
Excerpt from /stand

-r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 -sh
-r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 [
-r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 arp
-r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 boot_crunch
-r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 cpio
-r-xr-xr-x  31 root  wheel  1865544 Sep 18  2001 dhclient
..
etc

What does this mean all these things of size 1865544.
And where is /stand exactly ? It certainly isn't taking up all
this space on root...

I feel today is the day I will finally know...I have given up trying to
work it out.

Please feel free to chastise me .. as someone who has worked on Unix
systems for a long time, I feel I should know...

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