ftp access Q's to ftp.freeBSD mirrors
Good morning, all ! Thanks for the responses pointers. [ DUH! sorry about sending this out wrong the first time to a1poweruser; misread the headers in the reply-to ] I realize the intitial post was long, but I did clearly indicate that the FTP attempts were numurous using quite a lot of anon vs. anonymous vs. public vs. email addy username/password combo's at several ftp sites. THE QUESTION : if I go to ftp.freebsd.org, and I attempt to login w/ ftp software as an anonymous user, PLEASE : what username am I supposed to use? What password, if any, am I suuposed to use ?? Thanks for the recommendations on which packages to try, but login protocol/settings am I supposed to be using? From a Windoze2K machine ..? If I'm missing that at the site, I'd apprec the URL so I can figure why I'm missing that info and not have to bother you with questions this trivial. HUGE bonus for me is if anyone can make a recommendation for mirrors in Lithuania, Estonia, Sweden, any mirror with solid access to Riga, Latvia ... I only speak English rarely get comprehensible help from local East Europe services. I'm pretty much on my own that way here; ''send the local admin an email'' is wasted effort about 90% of the time if you don't have a specific contact. BTW I checked out the bittorrent site .. I'm on a Win2K workstation on a cable modem (DHCP cnnxn that changes at every boot/fluctuation about five-seven times/ day). I don't have access to any of the server settings they started going off about. Is there a client-only option ...? The site didn't seem to suggest that was possible. FTP seemed the best option for my circumstances, but I'm willing to consider others upon recommendation (URL pointer is enough if you've got such; I can read). Yep .. have some idea about the ports system, but obviously have a lot of reading on it it to understand it for efficient use. It's one of the features that has me interested in *BSD. My concern there is that if my connections keeps fuctuating [ sic - I like it, so I'm not correcting _that_ typo ;) ] trying to get the ISO's DL'd then how reliable will depending on ports be..? I assume there is some sort of auto-resume feature, but scarey thoughts crop up when the DL is an install instead of just a data file. I can always resume re-do something like an ISO ... I get very tense feelings when some balck-magic software is auto-installing over the internet. I'd much rather have the source /or bin's and be doing it off-line so I understand what's going on better. This win paradigm of 'Just Click Somewhere And It'll Be Good' is exactly what I'm trying to get away from. I had not considered using the older versions .. my assumption is that the 5.4 release would give me the best chances of success, especially trying to get running while off-line instead of getting stuck waiting on some on-line connection that may or may not give me some estimate as to how much longer it's going to take. And, really, thank you one and all for the man install guide pointers. At least two there I didn't have yet, although I do already have freeBSD netBSD user guides in *.pdf have begun on those. Have got through basic install chapters read through the last 90 days of this emaillist archive over the last couple weeks before I decided to go freeBSD attempted to grab the ISO's. I'm gonna post another or two here on other questions and ask for a critique tweak of install strategy so I can focus on the priorities to study up on. I do not have unlimited time to 'just read everything;' I've located several thousand pages of tech writing, large sections are way beyond my comptrehension today. I'm trying to pare it down to the first couple hundred pages worth that will get me boot-strapped to a working desktop. At the end of July I may be stranded with only my off-line materials as reference for a while. I can always hit a cyber cafe to check email, but ports large DL'z would be impossible or insanely convoluted. Best to download everything I can get right now so I can plow through it during August September. Thanks ! -- datora serfing the stream electric ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp access Q's to ftp.freeBSD mirrors
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 07:53, datora tehnika wrote: Good morning, all ! Thanks for the responses pointers. [ DUH! sorry about sending this out wrong the first time to a1poweruser; misread the headers in the reply-to ] I realize the intitial post was long, but I did clearly indicate that the FTP attempts were numurous using quite a lot of anon vs. anonymous vs. public vs. email addy username/password combo's at several ftp sites. THE QUESTION : if I go to ftp.freebsd.org, and I attempt to login w/ ftp software as an anonymous user, PLEASE : what username am I supposed to use? What password, if any, am I suuposed to use ?? Thanks for the recommendations on which packages to try, but login protocol/settings am I supposed to be using? From a Windoze2K machine ..? If I'm missing that at the site, I'd apprec the URL so I can figure why I'm missing that info and not have to bother you with questions this trivial. Datora Ftp mirrors etc can be found at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html AFAK, logon is anonymous - pwd your e-name address. You can also get the CD's from a number of sources eg ebay. They are quite cheap and may save you some grief. The sellers are not allowed to charge for the Software only for producing the CDs. Another way is to use a download manager there are a number of free ones for W2K. You can leave it running and if the connection is lost, it will restart from where it lost the connection from. Here is an example: http://www.gozilla.com/ Hope this helps Rob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp access Q's to ftp.freeBSD mirrors
On 7/7/05, Robert Slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ftp mirrors etc can be found at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html Yep ... thanks. I've got the web pages for the mirrors, several at this time. Trying to establish the connection with something other than a web browser is the problem. OKay -- using WS FTP lite, I enter in the host name/address of ftp.freebsd.org (have also used a couple dozen specifc directories here at various mirror sites).User ID is ''anonymous'' with no password entered (have also used my email address as the password; same result). RESULT : WINSOCK.DLL: WinSock 2.0 WS_FTP LE 5.08 2000.01.13, Copyright (c) 1992-2000 Ipswitch, Inc. - - ! Can't get ftp.freebsd.org/ host entry ! Connection failed ftp.freebsd.org/ Connection type is binary, port is standard 21, using passive transfer. So, using one of many mirrors I've tried as another example, the problem remains : WINSOCK.DLL: WinSock 2.0 WS_FTP LE 5.08 2000.01.13, Copyright (c) 1992-2000 Ipswitch, Inc. - - ! Can't get ftp://ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/; host entry ! Connection failed ftp://ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ ftp://ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ or ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD yeilda same error. So, willing to go with another FTP software. I realize this old WSFTP is just that .. old, but I've never had it fail me before ... so I'm puzzled. Knowing why this isn't working is pretty important. Shooting around in the dark at ''maybe'' is really just wasting time required elsewhere. As posted yesterday, the http:// connections keep breaking without the ability to resume an interrupted transfer. This is a local problem due to power fluctuations and flaky cable service. An ISO DL takes an estimated hour per 100 MB ... so the 550 CD1 ISO for freeBSD is ~5 1/2 hour DL, up to 6 1/2 hours. I have actually managed partial DL'z up to 300 500 MB in the last several days ... but, when they are interrupted, I have to begin from zero again using a web browser. So, drop back punt: use ftp software that has a resume function, as recommended at http://freebsd.org. This is what FTP is designed to do. Why can my standard ftp software not ''get'' the host entry ? What am I doing wrong here ? Is this some *BSD-windows configuration war ...? I've used WSFTP for a decade now to connect to *nix servers from Win9*/NT/2K and never had this issue. So, thanks for the gozilla.com link; I'll check it out. It just seems cludgy to install plugins to a web browser when FTP should work should work faster/ more efficiently. Sorry this thread got re-posted ... I've never run across a mail listserv that didn't automatically take a reply-to back to the listserv, so I had to repost the question under a different subject. Bizarre setting I'm sure I'll find out the 'why' about some day ... Other caveat .. I am based in Riga, Latvia. I could write a small book about it, but let's just summarize that buying anything over the internet from here is largely a waste of money and time. An ebay transaction for a ISO images would chew up weeks and cost stupid amounts of money. $10 USD is a food budget for an entire week here, not to be thrown away lightly. I should be able to connect via ftp have both ISO's for freeBSD 5.4 in about 12 hours time, tops, if I can just find out the magic settings to make the ftp servers show up in my ftp software. Besides, I foresee the need to have to ftp from these sites for quite a number of items as I need them. Getting into two and three week shipping/payment negotiations each time i need something (or _might_ need it have to DL it to find out ...) is really a rather silly methodology. I'm having a hard time believing that nobody on this list has established an ftp connection to one of these servers. Understanding what I'm doing wrong here seems to be the best approach. ''throw money at someone'' ''click here'' ''install that'' pray are the sorts of solutions that *BSD is supposed to NOT be about. Have I misunderstood that? -- datora serfing the stream electric ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ftp access Q's to ftp.freeBSD mirrors
Hay I use the same thing and just went to ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org ftp.Freebsd.org with no problem. WINSOCK.DLL: Microsoft wsock32.dll, ver2.2, 32bit of Jun 7 2000, at 21:34:15. WS_FTP95 LE 4.50 97.05.17, Copyright © 1992-1997 Ipswitch, Inc. In the session properities I use this. Host name ftp.lt.freebsd.org host type automatic detect user idI check mark the anonymous box Password [EMAIL PROTECTED] then click on OK button and it loges me into the server just fine. Now about the subject of long download times because of liminted bandwidth. WS_FTP95 does not have resume ability. I have T1 connection to public internet so not a issue for me. Using MS/Windows to get ISO CD images First of all the .ISO file extension is not supported in the native MS/Windows world. Sure you can download it from one of the FBSD FTP sites and burn it to a CD using MS/Windows, but you end up with a data disk where the ISO file is a single file, not a bootable CD containing the FBSD directory tree which you need to install from. The second major problem is you need a fast Internet connection, (IE: ISDN, DSL, CABLE) to download over. Using a 56K modem will take over 28 hours per CD if you are lucky enough that your ISP does not cut you off or the FTP server does not get busy and suspend your session. To resolve this problem of using a MS/Windows box to obtain the FBSD install CDROM image you will need a MS/Windows FTP program that can restart the ftp download where it left off at, if it gets terminated during the initial download. I used SMARTFTP from www.smartftp.com. Then you need a MS/Windows program that can burn ISO files to CDROM. I used Nero from www.nero.com. The downloaded demos from these sites work just fine to do what you have to do to create your FBSD mini install CDROM. Uninstall them, but keep the downloaded install zip files for them and next time you need to retrieve a FBSD .ISO file, just reinstall to get a new 30 day demo. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of datora tehnika Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 5:27 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ftp access Q's to ftp.freeBSD mirrors On 7/7/05, Robert Slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ftp mirrors etc can be found at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ft p.html Yep ... thanks. I've got the web pages for the mirrors, several at this time. Trying to establish the connection with something other than a web browser is the problem. OKay -- using WS FTP lite, I enter in the host name/address of ftp.freebsd.org (have also used a couple dozen specifc directories here at various mirror sites).User ID is ''anonymous'' with no password entered (have also used my email address as the password; same result). RESULT : WINSOCK.DLL: WinSock 2.0 WS_FTP LE 5.08 2000.01.13, Copyright (c) 1992-2000 Ipswitch, Inc. - - ! Can't get ftp.freebsd.org/ host entry ! Connection failed ftp.freebsd.org/ Connection type is binary, port is standard 21, using passive transfer. So, using one of many mirrors I've tried as another example, the problem remains : WINSOCK.DLL: WinSock 2.0 WS_FTP LE 5.08 2000.01.13, Copyright (c) 1992-2000 Ipswitch, Inc. - - ! Can't get ftp://ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/; host entry ! Connection failed ftp://ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ ftp://ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ or ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD yeilda same error. So, willing to go with another FTP software. I realize this old WSFTP is just that .. old, but I've never had it fail me before ... so I'm puzzled. Knowing why this isn't working is pretty important. Shooting around in the dark at ''maybe'' is really just wasting time required elsewhere. As posted yesterday, the http:// connections keep breaking without the ability to resume an interrupted transfer. This is a local problem due to power fluctuations and flaky cable service. An ISO DL takes an estimated hour per 100 MB ... so the 550 CD1 ISO for freeBSD is ~5 1/2 hour DL, up to 6 1/2 hours. I have actually managed partial DL'z up to 300 500 MB in the last several days ... but, when they are interrupted, I have to begin from zero again using a web browser. So, drop back punt: use ftp software that has a resume function, as recommended at http://freebsd.org. This is what FTP is designed to do. Why can my standard ftp software not ''get'' the host entry ? What am I doing wrong here ? Is this some *BSD-windows configuration war ...? I've used WSFTP for a decade now to connect to *nix servers from Win9*/NT/2K and never had this issue. So, thanks for the gozilla.com link; I'll check it out. It just seems cludgy to install plugins to a web browser when FTP should work should work faster/ more efficiently. Sorry this thread got re-posted ... I've never run across a mail listserv that didn't automatically take a reply-to back to the listserv, so I had to repost the question under a different
Re: ftp access Q's to ftp.freeBSD mirrors
THANK YOU ! I have no idea why this would not work before .. exactly why I was whining so loudly here. This should have been a no-brain try succeed once thing. I just now tried ftp.lt.freebsd.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the password and in like flynn. Bizarre ... the email address I am posting this from was not accepted !! Yep .. I knew WSFTP95 does not have resume; sorry about the confusion in my posts. I was using this to establish an FTP connection to check that I could to get a speed test out of it for time estimates at different sites. It's such an old and reliable application I know it pretty well I didn't want to confuse myself (moreso than I usually am!) by bumping around several new interfaces. THX for the smartFTP link; I'm collecting a whole set of freebie ftp utilities; resume was not so critical before as it has suddenly become. I haven't DL'd anything larger than about 90 or 100 MB in the last two years. My cable cnnxn currently runs about 100 MB/ hour with some varience (~29 - 32 bps is norm) ... so, y'all will be crazed ... er, graced with my newbie install attempts Real Soon Now; I expect by Monday depending on other things I am trying to get done. I know all about burning an ISO with something like nero ... that is exactly what I use; I have a fully licensed personal copy of 5.5 that hasn't failed me yet for many IOS's, including linux installs. Nero rocks ! I have ftp. I am happy. Paldies! ;-) -- datora Successful session established : WINSOCK.DLL: WinSock 2.0 WS_FTP LE 5.08 2000.01.13, Copyright (c) 1992-2000 Ipswitch, Inc. - - connecting to 213.197.128.70:21 Connected to 213.197.128.70 port 21 220 ocean.cs.microlink.lt FTP server (Version 6.00LS) ready. USER anonymous 331 Guest login ok, send your email address as password. PASS (hidden) 230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply. PWD 257 / is current directory. SYST 215 UNIX Type: L8 Version: BSD-199506 Host type (S): UNIX (standard) PASV 227 Entering Passive Mode (213,197,128,70,219,158) connecting to 213.197.128.70:56222 - - connecting to 213.197.128.70:56222 Connected to 213.197.128.70 port 56222 LIST 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'. Received 402 bytes in 0.1 secs, (30.00 Kbps), transfer succeeded 226 Transfer complete. -- datora serfing the stream electric ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp access Q's to ftp.freeBSD mirrors
Hey all -- Am reading through http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla as these messages came in. Going on third recommendation for this : Freebsd installer guide. www.a1poweruser.com THANKS! I have it already ! ;-) Downloaded ready to read off-line for the next couple of days. Have also grokked through ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en/ for articles handbook. Sketching out install strategy for multi-boot systems .. .but will post those as separate questions as I formulate them. Using postal mail to Latvia isn't a tech problem ... it's a small cost and time nightmare. If there was something I really wanted or need mailed, sure, but the economics here are near first-world prices at third-world wages, so throwing money away is not a good survival strategy. And, waiting around three or four weeks for mail to arrive (maybe even unmolested by the postal workers) just isn't time effective. Current update is that I seem to be connecting via ftp .. it looks like I was leaving a trailing slash on the URL as pasted from the web browser. Have now established ftp connections to a couple of mirrors ready to go with the one w/ best speed; looks like 30 Kbits/sec is max for the region. FileZilla looks like the way to go. If I don't have my ISO's within 15 or 18 hours, I'll ask again. Just now getting FileZilla DL'd installed learning the interface enough to get it going with the resume feature active. Sorry, but got side-tracked by the London bombings today. Got a couple of friends working there I'm trying to get ahold of. No joy yet. I know the odds are in their favor ... but I also lost an acquaintance in the WTC on 9/11, so I'm a bit distracted. Tech is fun career, but that's 2ndary to friends. Thanks all for jumping in to help out ! Hopefully I'll be a contributing member before too much longer. More serious questions regarding multi-boot systems and dual-processor kernal configuration are about to follow. Trust me on that ... ;-) -- datora serfing the stream electric ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
