RE: gmirror on 1 or 2 IDE cables
-Original Message- From: Peter Clutton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 2:30 PM To: Steve Bertrand Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror on 1 or 2 IDE cables On 11/4/05, Steve Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using gmirror to mirror two identical drives, how much of a performance hit is it to have 1. Both drives on one IDE cable? Compared to: 2. One drive primary on one cable and one secondary on the other cable? Compared to: 3. Both drives primary but on separate IDE cables? My understanding that only a single drive on each IDE channel can be accessed at any one time. Thus, if you put one drive on one channel, and the other drive on the second channel, they can be accessed simultaneously. The location on the cable(s) does not matter, That is correct about the two channels, one should be on each. However it does make a difference as to primary or secondary, if you have other drives attached (such as cdrom). Try putting the cdrom as primary, then secondary, and have a watch to discover the difference. This might not be noticed with a normal secondary hard drive, as you may not write to it much. However in a mirror the second is always written to, and you will notice the difference if you are also using the cdrom Apologies to everyone, but I'm still a little confused... If the hard drive has a decent buffer, then doesn't (or at least couldn't) a write free up the IDE channel right after the buffer fills and before the buffer empties and the write is complete? In which case, can't a second write to the other drive on the channel overlap the first disk writing out its buffer? At the very least couldn't gmirror have the smarts to do this by interleaving the main and mirrored writes appropriately (given the size of the buffers)? Of course, mirroring should go faster if the mirror is on a different channel. As for a write to a secondary drive being slower than the same write to a primary drive... Why should that be? Doesn't the write data contain the address (0=primary or 1=secondary) on the IDE channel of the drive to which the write is going? If this is the case, then why should one be slower than the other? Thanks for the help! -gayn Bristol Systems Inc. 714/532-6776 www.bristolsystems.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: gmirror on 1 or 2 IDE cables
-Original Message- From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:26 PM To: Steve Bertrand; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: gmirror on 1 or 2 IDE cables -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Bertrand Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 7:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: gmirror on 1 or 2 IDE cables Using gmirror to mirror two identical drives, how much of a performance hit is it to have 1. Both drives on one IDE cable? Compared to: 2. One drive primary on one cable and one secondary on the other cable? Compared to: 3. Both drives primary but on separate IDE cables? My understanding that only a single drive on each IDE channel can be accessed at any one time. Which may or may not matter depending on what he's doing. Are we talking mainly reads or writes here? Ted I was mostly thinking about writes; however, now that you raise the issue, can gmirror interleave reads from the two mirrored disks? -gayn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gmirror on 1 or 2 IDE cables
On 11/4/05, Steve Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using gmirror to mirror two identical drives, how much of a performance hit is it to have 1. Both drives on one IDE cable? Compared to: 2. One drive primary on one cable and one secondary on the other cable? Compared to: 3. Both drives primary but on separate IDE cables? My understanding that only a single drive on each IDE channel can be accessed at any one time. Thus, if you put one drive on one channel, and the other drive on the second channel, they can be accessed simultaneously. The location on the cable(s) does not matter, That is correct about the two channels, one should be on each. However it does make a difference as to primary or secondary, if you have other drives attached (such as cdrom). Try putting the cdrom as primary, then secondary, and have a watch to discover the difference. This might not be noticed with a normal secondary hard drive, as you may not write to it much. However in a mirror the second is always written to, and you will notice the difference if you are also using the cdrom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: gmirror on 1 or 2 IDE cables
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Bertrand Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 7:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: gmirror on 1 or 2 IDE cables Using gmirror to mirror two identical drives, how much of a performance hit is it to have 1. Both drives on one IDE cable? Compared to: 2. One drive primary on one cable and one secondary on the other cable? Compared to: 3. Both drives primary but on separate IDE cables? My understanding that only a single drive on each IDE channel can be accessed at any one time. Which may or may not matter depending on what he's doing. Are we talking mainly reads or writes here? Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gmirror on 1 or 2 IDE cables
Using gmirror to mirror two identical drives, how much of a performance hit is it to have 1. Both drives on one IDE cable? Compared to: 2. One drive primary on one cable and one secondary on the other cable? Compared to: 3. Both drives primary but on separate IDE cables? Thanks, -gayn Bristol Systems Inc. 714/532-6776 www.bristolsystems.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: gmirror on 1 or 2 IDE cables
Using gmirror to mirror two identical drives, how much of a performance hit is it to have 1. Both drives on one IDE cable? Compared to: 2. One drive primary on one cable and one secondary on the other cable? Compared to: 3. Both drives primary but on separate IDE cables? My understanding that only a single drive on each IDE channel can be accessed at any one time. Thus, if you put one drive on one channel, and the other drive on the second channel, they can be accessed simultaneously. The location on the cable(s) does not matter, but I've always got accustomed to putting my disk drives as primary, which FBSD would see them as ad0 and ad2 respectively. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
