Re: how to avoid recompiling applications?
Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so, could i theoretically use 'make reinstall' on a fresh system where the port had never been previously installed? Maybe, maybe not. If make install doesn't work because there's already a .install_done... file in the work directory, then reinstall will be what you need. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to avoid recompiling applications?
On Monday 05 June 2006 09:49, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so, could i theoretically use 'make reinstall' on a fresh system where the port had never been previously installed? Maybe, maybe not. If make install doesn't work because there's already a .install_done... file in the work directory, then reinstall will be what you need. ___ I think a fresh system, where a port has never been installed, would not have a work directory in that port, so make install would work unless the port is broken. Using make reinstall in a port on a system that has been freshly reinstalled isn't going to save the OP anytime by avoiding recompiling ports, they'll be recompiled. How to save time is what he asked about, as he tends to experiment with this system and screw it up, requiring a reinstall from scratch. He also said that using pkg_add -r with, say kde, always tends to have something wrong with it. The answer is: when he installs the ports, make a package using make package. Unfortunately, this doesn't make a package for ports required for that port, But, make package-recursive would, with the exception of certain ports, and he can get around that if he's clever enough. Another thing he can do is: use pkg_create -b some-port-already-installed and save it somewhere. Then he can do pkg_add that-saved-port.tbz and get that port and the required dependencies. If he's missing a dependency, oh well, guess what. Don ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to avoid recompiling applications?
Donald J. O'Neill wrote: On Monday 05 June 2006 09:49, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so, could i theoretically use 'make reinstall' on a fresh system where the port had never been previously installed? Maybe, maybe not. If make install doesn't work because there's already a .install_done... file in the work directory, then reinstall will be what you need. ___ The answer is: when he installs the ports, make a package using make package. Unfortunately, this doesn't make a package for ports required for that port, But, make package-recursive would, with the exception of certain ports, and he can get around that if he's clever enough. Another thing he can do is: use pkg_create -b some-port-already-installed and save it somewhere. Then he can do pkg_add that-saved-port.tbz and get that port and the required dependencies. If he's missing a dependency, oh well, guess what. portupgrade -pr works a treat: -p --package Build a package when each specified port is installed or upgraded. If a package is upgraded and its dependent packages are given from the com- mand line (including the case where -r is speci- fied), build packages for them as well. combined with pkg_create -b for already installed stuff and you should never have to compile the same version of a port more than once. --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to avoid recompiling applications?
Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i have a system that i tend to tear up quite often. sometimes accidently, sometimes not. recompiling kde is quite a long process (and when i try to do it from packages, something is always messed up). so, i was under the impression that if you *did not* make install clean (thus, only using 'make clean') and save your work directories, then when it came time to reinstall something, you would not have to go thru the compile process, and skip straight to the installation? example is, last night i compiled xorg from ports, but then tried to (against my better judgement) pull down kde from packages. utter catastrophe, after removing the non-working kde-package, kde3 port would not even compile after that. anyway, long story short, i backed up my /usr/ports, /usr/src, /usr/obj, and reinstalled. using my restored backup files, reapplying my old kernel and installworld went just without issue, i skipped the buildworld and buildkernel just fine, no hitches. but when i went to reinstall the xorg from last night (all the work directories were still there), 'make install' returned no output, and nothing happened. what gives? make reinstall. See man ports. i ended up having to do a make clean on my ports dir before i could continue. in the future for me, is there a way to proeperly retain all the precompiled stuff, and just skip right to the installation portion of my previously compiled ports? I would tend to build your own packages, and keep them around. Then you can reinstlal them easily. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to avoid recompiling applications?
On Sunday 04 June 2006 11:46, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i have a system that i tend to tear up quite often. sometimes accidently, sometimes not. recompiling kde is quite a long process (and when i try to do it from packages, something is always messed up). so, i was under the impression that if you *did not* make install clean (thus, only using 'make clean') and save your work directories, then when it came time to reinstall something, you would not have to go thru the compile process, and skip straight to the installation? example is, last night i compiled xorg from ports, but then tried to (against my better judgement) pull down kde from packages. utter catastrophe, after removing the non-working kde-package, kde3 port would not even compile after that. anyway, long story short, i backed up my /usr/ports, /usr/src, /usr/obj, and reinstalled. using my restored backup files, reapplying my old kernel and installworld went just without issue, i skipped the buildworld and buildkernel just fine, no hitches. but when i went to reinstall the xorg from last night (all the work directories were still there), 'make install' returned no output, and nothing happened. what gives? make reinstall. See man ports. i ended up having to do a make clean on my ports dir before i could continue. in the future for me, is there a way to proeperly retain all the precompiled stuff, and just skip right to the installation portion of my previously compiled ports? I would tend to build your own packages, and keep them around. Then you can reinstlal them easily. ah, thank you for your reply... i finally exhale while waiting in anticpation! so, could i theoretically use 'make reinstall' on a fresh system where the port had never been previously installed? im trying to build my system using the minimal install, and then recover my previous /boot /usr/src /usr/obj (then make installworld etc), then turn to my recovered /usr/ports and just begin installing previously compiled applications. thanks, jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to avoid recompiling applications?
On 6/4/06, Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, could i theoretically use 'make reinstall' on a fresh system where the port had never been previously installed? Yes... but what's the point?... when you can make your own packages. instead of typing 'make install' type 'make package', this will spit out a .tbz file you can use with pkg_add etc... http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/07/FreeBSD_Basics.html -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to avoid recompiling applications?
On Sunday 04 June 2006 12:19, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 6/4/06, Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, could i theoretically use 'make reinstall' on a fresh system where the port had never been previously installed? No, you can't. Yes... but what's the point?... when you can make your own packages. instead of typing 'make install' type 'make package', this will spit out a .tbz file you can use with pkg_add etc... http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/07/FreeBSD_Basics.html Now, this is what I do, except do it make package-recursive, that way you get any packages that have been installed as requirements. Be sure to do mkdir /usr/ports/packages, otherwise, the packages you're making are going to be stored in the individual port. If you have /usr/ports/packages, they'll be stored in one location that you can copy elsewhere, cd or dvd for instance. Don ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to avoid recompiling applications?
Donald J. O'Neill wrote: On Sunday 04 June 2006 12:19, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 6/4/06, Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, could i theoretically use 'make reinstall' on a fresh system where the port had never been previously installed? No, you can't. Yes... but what's the point?... when you can make your own packages. instead of typing 'make install' type 'make package', this will spit out a .tbz file you can use with pkg_add etc... http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/07/FreeBSD_Basics.html Now, this is what I do, except do it make package-recursive, that way you get any packages that have been installed as requirements. Be sure to do mkdir /usr/ports/packages, otherwise, the packages you're making are going to be stored in the individual port. If you have /usr/ports/packages, they'll be stored in one location that you can copy elsewhere, cd or dvd for instance. You could also use pkg_create. man pkg_create Cheers, Mikhail. -- Mikhail Goriachev Webanoide Telephone: +61 (0)3 62252501 Mobile Phone: +61 (0)4 38255158 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.webanoide.org PGP Key ID: 0x4E148A3B PGP Key Fingerprint: D96B 7C14 79A5 8824 B99D 9562 F50E 2F5D 4E14 8A3B ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to avoid recompiling applications?
On Sunday 04 June 2006 12:54, Mikhail Goriachev wrote: Donald J. O'Neill wrote: On Sunday 04 June 2006 12:19, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 6/4/06, Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, could i theoretically use 'make reinstall' on a fresh system where the port had never been previously installed? No, you can't. Yes... but what's the point?... when you can make your own packages. instead of typing 'make install' type 'make package', this will spit out a .tbz file you can use with pkg_add etc... http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/07/FreeBSD_Basics.html Now, this is what I do, except do it make package-recursive, that way you get any packages that have been installed as requirements. Be sure to do mkdir /usr/ports/packages, otherwise, the packages you're making are going to be stored in the individual port. If you have /usr/ports/packages, they'll be stored in one location that you can copy elsewhere, cd or dvd for instance. You could also use pkg_create. man pkg_create Cheers, Mikhail. Yes, you could, if it's already installed on the computer. If I took the output from pkg_info and compared it to what packages were in /usr/ports/packages/All, I could use pkg_create to build the missing packages I wanted to save to do a fast reinstall. But, if the port hasn't been built and installed yet, pkg_create will complain about it and conk out. Don ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how to avoid recompiling applications?
i have a system that i tend to tear up quite often. sometimes accidently, sometimes not. recompiling kde is quite a long process (and when i try to do it from packages, something is always messed up). so, i was under the impression that if you *did not* make install clean (thus, only using 'make clean') and save your work directories, then when it came time to reinstall something, you would not have to go thru the compile process, and skip straight to the installation? example is, last night i compiled xorg from ports, but then tried to (against my better judgement) pull down kde from packages. utter catastrophe, after removing the non-working kde-package, kde3 port would not even compile after that. anyway, long story short, i backed up my /usr/ports, /usr/src, /usr/obj, and reinstalled. using my restored backup files, reapplying my old kernel and installworld went just without issue, i skipped the buildworld and buildkernel just fine, no hitches. but when i went to reinstall the xorg from last night (all the work directories were still there), 'make install' returned no output, and nothing happened. what gives? i ended up having to do a make clean on my ports dir before i could continue. in the future for me, is there a way to proeperly retain all the precompiled stuff, and just skip right to the installation portion of my previously compiled ports? thanks, jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
