Re: idletime in login.conf

2011-11-01 Thread perryh
Jason Helfman jhelf...@e-e.com wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 08:11:57PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey thus spake:
 Suggestion: use send-pr to submit a diff to add
  SEE ALSO ports/sysutils/doinkd
 to man login.conf

 I don't believe it is the correct place in a base man page for
 mentioning a port in the FreeBSD tree, or in at least this case.

Perhaps the Handbook would be a better place.
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Re: idletime in login.conf

2011-10-31 Thread Damien Fleuriot

On 30 Oct 2011, at 16:45, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote:

 List,
 
 Goal: Automatically logoff users that are idle after 'x' minutes.
 
 Attempt: I added this to /etc/login.conf to the default login class:
 
:idletime=10m:
 
 I then rebuilt the database:
 
cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf
 
 Problem: It doesn't work. The 'w' command shows users idle for 20 minutes or
 more. I'm missing something. Other than an autologout shell variables, how do 
 I
 force idle users to logout?
 

Are these users that logged in after or before your change ?

Obviously the idle timeout only applies to users who logged in after you 
adjusted the value and rebuilt the 
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Re: idletime in login.conf

2011-10-31 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Oct 31), Damien Fleuriot said:
 On 30 Oct 2011, at 16:45, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote:
  List,
  
  Goal: Automatically logoff users that are idle after 'x' minutes.
  
  Attempt: I added this to /etc/login.conf to the default login class:
  
 :idletime=10m:
  
  I then rebuilt the database:
  
 cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf
  
  Problem: It doesn't work. The 'w' command shows users idle for 20
  minutes or more.  I'm missing something.  Other than an autologout shell
  variables, how do I force idle users to logout?
 
 Are these users that logged in after or before your change ?
 
 Obviously the idle timeout only applies to users who logged in after you
 adjusted the value and rebuilt the db.

Actually, the idle timeout is not implemented in the base system.  It's
there in case someone writes a 3rd-party module that does idle detection. 
See the login.conf manpage:

RESERVED CAPABILITIES
 The following capabilities are reserved for the purposes indicated and
 may be supported by third-party software.  They are not implemented in
 the base system.
[...]
 idletime  timeMaximum idle time before logout.


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Re: idletime in login.conf

2011-10-31 Thread Jason Helfman

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:09:34AM -0500, Dan Nelson thus spake:

In the last episode (Oct 31), Damien Fleuriot said:

On 30 Oct 2011, at 16:45, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote:
 List,

 Goal: Automatically logoff users that are idle after 'x' minutes.

 Attempt: I added this to /etc/login.conf to the default login class:

:idletime=10m:

 I then rebuilt the database:

cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf

 Problem: It doesn't work. The 'w' command shows users idle for 20
 minutes or more.  I'm missing something.  Other than an autologout shell
 variables, how do I force idle users to logout?

Are these users that logged in after or before your change ?

Obviously the idle timeout only applies to users who logged in after you
adjusted the value and rebuilt the db.


Actually, the idle timeout is not implemented in the base system.  It's
there in case someone writes a 3rd-party module that does idle detection.
See the login.conf manpage:

RESERVED CAPABILITIES
The following capabilities are reserved for the purposes indicated and
may be supported by third-party software.  They are not implemented in
the base system.
[...]
idletime  timeMaximum idle time before logout.



You may want to look into /usr/ports/sysutils/doinkd for this. I use it on
many systems, and it works remarkable well, and it is highly configurable.

-jgh

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Re: idletime in login.conf

2011-10-31 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi,
Reference:
 From: Jason Helfman jhelf...@e-e.com 
 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:25:32 -0700 
 Message-id:   20111031182532.gf82...@eggman.experts-exchange.com 

Jason Helfman wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:09:34AM -0500, Dan Nelson thus spake:
 In the last episode (Oct 31), Damien Fleuriot said:
  On 30 Oct 2011, at 16:45, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote:
   List,
  
   Goal: Automatically logoff users that are idle after 'x' minutes.
  
   Attempt: I added this to /etc/login.conf to the default login class:
  
  :idletime=10m:
  
   I then rebuilt the database:
  
  cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf
  
   Problem: It doesn't work. The 'w' command shows users idle for 20
   minutes or more.  I'm missing something.  Other than an autologout shell
   variables, how do I force idle users to logout?
 
  Are these users that logged in after or before your change ?
 
  Obviously the idle timeout only applies to users who logged in after you
  adjusted the value and rebuilt the db.
 
 Actually, the idle timeout is not implemented in the base system.  It's
 there in case someone writes a 3rd-party module that does idle detection.
 See the login.conf manpage:
 
 RESERVED CAPABILITIES
  The following capabilities are reserved for the purposes indicated and
  may be supported by third-party software.  They are not implemented in
  the base system.
 [...]
  idletime  timeMaximum idle time before logout.
 
 
 You may want to look into /usr/ports/sysutils/doinkd for this. I use it on
 many systems, and it works remarkable well, and it is highly configurable.
 
 -jgh
 
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 System Administrator

That was a useful tip, but people (inc. self) will not remember.
Suggestion: use send-pr to submit a diff to add 
SEE ALSO ports/sysutils/doinkd 
to man login.conf

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: idletime in login.conf

2011-10-31 Thread Jason Helfman

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 08:11:57PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey thus spake:

Hi,
Reference:

From:   Jason Helfman jhelf...@e-e.com
Date:   Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:25:32 -0700
Message-id: 20111031182532.gf82...@eggman.experts-exchange.com


Jason Helfman wrote:

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:09:34AM -0500, Dan Nelson thus spake:
In the last episode (Oct 31), Damien Fleuriot said:
 On 30 Oct 2011, at 16:45, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote:
  List,
 
  Goal: Automatically logoff users that are idle after 'x' minutes.
 
  Attempt: I added this to /etc/login.conf to the default login class:
 
 :idletime=10m:
 
  I then rebuilt the database:
 
 cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf
 
  Problem: It doesn't work. The 'w' command shows users idle for 20
  minutes or more.  I'm missing something.  Other than an autologout shell
  variables, how do I force idle users to logout?

 Are these users that logged in after or before your change ?

 Obviously the idle timeout only applies to users who logged in after you
 adjusted the value and rebuilt the db.

Actually, the idle timeout is not implemented in the base system.  It's
there in case someone writes a 3rd-party module that does idle detection.
See the login.conf manpage:

RESERVED CAPABILITIES
 The following capabilities are reserved for the purposes indicated and
 may be supported by third-party software.  They are not implemented in
 the base system.
[...]
 idletime  timeMaximum idle time before logout.


You may want to look into /usr/ports/sysutils/doinkd for this. I use it on
many systems, and it works remarkable well, and it is highly configurable.

-jgh

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Jason Helfman
System Administrator


That was a useful tip, but people (inc. self) will not remember.
Suggestion: use send-pr to submit a diff to add
SEE ALSO ports/sysutils/doinkd
to man login.conf

Cheers,
Julian


I don't believe doinkd respects the values of login.conf, however you may
use those values for what is configurable for doinkd. I don't believe it is
the correct place in a base man page for mentioning a port in the FreeBSD
tree, or in at least this case.

If you feel it is, feel free to send in a problem report. I, myself, will
not be filing a report for this item.

-jgh

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idletime in login.conf

2011-10-30 Thread Modulok
List,

Goal: Automatically logoff users that are idle after 'x' minutes.

Attempt: I added this to /etc/login.conf to the default login class:

:idletime=10m:

I then rebuilt the database:

cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf

Problem: It doesn't work. The 'w' command shows users idle for 20 minutes or
more. I'm missing something. Other than an autologout shell variables, how do I
force idle users to logout?

Thanks.
-Modulok-
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