Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-20 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Murray Taylor wrote:

 IBM Think pads seem to go ok -- 4.8, 4.9, 4.10

I've had better luck with 5.3 on my R31 - it recognises ACPI and the 32-bit
CardBus slot, amongst others.  Witl laptops you really want the latest, to
support their weird hardware.

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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-20 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Monday 20 December 2004 12:53 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or
 openbsd that is available to purchase???

I was unable to get a Compaq's pccard working under FreeBSD 5.2.1 using 
either the new or old pccard systems.  I had no problems on a Dell 
using FreeBSD 4.10 or 5.3.

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould

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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-20 Thread David Landgren
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hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or openbsd that 
is available to purchase???
Available to purchase, I dunno. With older HP laptops I had no success 
with 5.2, but 4.10 was fine. I haven't tried 5.3 yet.

When I say no success, I meant that the laptop refused to complete the 
boot of an installation CD. If you can get to a shop, take an install CD 
along with you. If you can boot up and get as far as the main menu, 
it'll probably be just fine.

David
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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-20 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
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 hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or openbsd that 
 is available to purchase???

I'm typing this on a Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo D 1840W running FreeBSD 5.3. 

Everything 'Just Worked', the only part of the X config I needed to do
manually was the one-line ZAxisMapping magic to make the touchpad's
scroll strip (similar to mouse wheel) work. Then again that was
cutpasteable from somewhere else. Everything else pretty much just
automagically worked.

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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-20 Thread Dan Kilbourne
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 hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or openbsd that 
 is available to purchase???


I can tell you that my Dell C640 worked right out of the box. Xorg
-configure got all my X stuff correct (I just needed to set default
color depth to my personal preference). Even my wireless NIC works
immediately with a dhclient wi0. The only option I needed to add to
the kernel to get everything working was device sound

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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-20 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Monday 20 December 2004 04:54 am, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
 On Monday 20 December 2004 12:53 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or
  openbsd that is available to purchase???

I just read about the website below at linuxtoday.com.  The laptops are 
sold with Linspire by default (no Windows tax); but FreeBSD is one of 
the (ahem) other linux distros available.

http://www.sub300.com/

I know nothing else about them; so I can neither recommend nor 
discourage doing business with them.

Best of luck,

Andrew
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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-20 Thread Tom Vilot
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  hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or openbsd 
  that 
  is available to purchase???

I have FreeBSD 5.3 running beautifully on a Dell Inspiron 8200.
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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-20 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Monday 20 December 2004 06:46 am, Tom Vilot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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   hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or
   openbsd that is available to purchase???

 I have FreeBSD 5.3 running beautifully on a Dell Inspiron 8200.

I have FreeBSD 5.3 running on a Dell Inspiron 3500. IIRC there weren't 
any problems with the install, but I had to compile in support for my 
cardbus and ethernet. Since it's just a 300MHz with 128MB, I didn't 
install xorg at all, but I know from previous experimentation that it 
will run a smaller wm or desktop alright (xfce4 or smaller), but KDE or 
Gnome run very slow. I don't really need a gui desktop on it, and it's 
(generally) quite fast without it. I am tinkering at getting the sound 
running, but it's not a priority. Haven't yet tried USB, but again it's 
not a priority. It works the way it is for my needs. You can probably 
find a used Dell in this model range for very cheap. I wouldn't go 
lower than the 3500, though, as lower than a 300MHz cpu might be 
pushing it as far as what you need.

As someone else recommended, IBM Thinkpads are quite nice and will 
usually work, although a bit pricey. If you go that route, try to find 
a good used one.

- jt
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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-20 Thread Joe Altman
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:54:09AM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
 On Monday 20 December 2004 12:53 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or
  openbsd that is available to purchase???
 
 I was unable to get a Compaq's pccard working under FreeBSD 5.2.1 using 
 either the new or old pccard systems.  I had no problems on a Dell 
 using FreeBSD 4.10 or 5.3.

Not following up to Andrew, in particular, but to point out the ...a
Dell (or Gateway or HP or whatever)... is not very exact; and it may
be helpful to indicate a model and /or number for any recommendation.

For instance: 

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/notebooks?c=uscs=19l=ens=dhs

shows several possible notebooks. Let's take this one:

Inspiron 1150, with various features, including:

Memory 256MB Shared DDR SDRAM, 1 Dimm which means that video fills its
needs from system memory. Now, the issue here is that for lower
end laptops that use shared memory and the Intel integrated graphics
chip with a bios lock on memory allocation, you may end up w/o the
ability to display in 1024x768 in X.

So it may pay for anyone to check to see that the available memory is
sufficient to provide a minimum comfortable resolution.

Another example:

http://products.gateway.com/products/GConfig/prodDetails.asp?system_id=m275xseg=hm

Midway down, you'll see this:

Integrated Intel. Extreme Graphics 2

What does that mean, WRT resolution in X? I can't find out, easily
(it's a JavaScript thing). It is likely that it has enough memory for
1024x768 or even a finer resolution; but it would be a good idea to
make sure, IMO. In short, I would recommend that you get as much
detail from the vendor as you can; and don't assume that because it is
a modern machine and some models in a brand do work very well with
FreeBSD that any given model will work well with FreeBSD.
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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-20 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
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hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or openbsd that 
is available to purchase???

 

The FreeBSD Laptop Compatability List at:
   http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/
will give you some information from about 450
other FreeBSD + laptop users.
HTH,
Kevin Kinsey
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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-20 Thread W. D.
How 'bout this one?

http://news.google.com/news?q=walmart+laptop

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installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-19 Thread NathanKelly31
hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or openbsd that 
is available to purchase???
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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-19 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Monday, 20 December 2004 at  1:53:43 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or
 openbsd that is available to purchase???

I've had good results with Dell laptops.

Greg
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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-19 Thread Murray Taylor

On Mon, 2004-12-20 at 17:55, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 On Monday, 20 December 2004 at  1:53:43 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or
  openbsd that is available to purchase???
 
 I've had good results with Dell laptops.
 
 Greg

IBM Think pads seem to go ok -- 4.8, 4.9, 4.10

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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

2004-12-19 Thread Karel Miklav
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hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or openbsd that 
is available to purchase???
IBM Thinkpads are fine also. But try before u buy, whatever your 
decision. Take a live cd (http://www.freesbie.org/) with you and test it 
as much as you can.

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