Re: ipf not working correctly???

2005-06-22 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Don't top-post, please.

RYAN vAN GINNEKEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Thanks but do you have any advice for me rather than fbsd_user

Not much; your message was hard to follow, and the configuration
didn't seem to match the behavior you observed (e.g., ipfilter wasn't
even in the kernel configuration, but seemed to be stopping packets).

Unless you have a specific reason otherwise, follow the other poster's
advice and stick to one firewall configuration.

When you are looking for DNS problems, check from the machine running
the NAT, so that you can separate problems with NAT from problems with
packet filtering.
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Re: ipf not working correctly???

2005-06-21 Thread RYAN vAN GINNEKEN

Thanks but do you have any advice for me rather than fbsd_user

"fbsd_user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Your first problem is you have ipfw and ipf both turned on in kernel
and rc.conf.
You can only have one firewall on at a time.


For the record, that is not true.  They can coexist, and there are
even some (unusual) situations where doing so is useful.
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Re: ipf not working correctly???

2005-06-21 Thread RYAN vAN GINNEKEN
Ok thank you for your reply I have followed the newest handbook to the 
letter did you read my email?? which part is incorrect the ipf stuff is 
comment out of my kernel and also turned off in rc.conf.I have had 
to re enable ipfw in the kernel to get  natd and my server to work 
properly again.  If i remove firewall and ipdivert options my server 
will no longer route packages to my LAN.  I will recompile my kernel one 
more time with no firewall option at all and comment out all the natd 
and ipfw lines from rc.conf just to humor you and because i am desperate 
for this to work.  Note i have already tried this but will try again.


also you  can have both enabled  however i do only want  ipf  for now. 


fbsd_user wrote:


Your first problem is you have ipfw and ipf both turned on in kernel
and rc.conf.
You can only have one firewall on at a time.
Remove all "firewall" and ipf statements from the kernel and
recompile or just use the generic kernel. Then remove all "firewall"
and "natd' statements from rc.conf.

Then go back and read the FreeBSD handbook section on firewalls it's
been updated to give detailed instructions on what to do. Follow
then to the letter and you will be all set.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RYAN vAN
GINNEKEN
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:58 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: ipf not working correctly???


Hello all i use FreeBSD stable 4.11 and wish to use built in ipf
version
3.x something.i have been using ipfw with type set to open however i
have recently been attacked and need to beef up security.



I have followed the basic setup that is in the freebsd handbook and
read
through the world famous ipf howto lots of times.



Currently I have the below options compiled into my kernel the docs
I
have read say you do not need to compile ipfilter options into the
kernel to use it.  I was going to uncomment the ipfilter stuff and
comment out the ipfirewall options when I got ipfilter working.  Is
it
necessary to recompile the kernel without ipfirewall options to make
ipfilter work.



Kernel OPTIONS



options IPFIREWALL

options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE

options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100

options IPDIVERT



#optionsIPFILTER

#optionsIPFILTER_LOG

#optionsIPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK



IN MY /etc/rc.conf==

#IPF & IPNAT

ipfilter_enable="YES" # Start ipf firewall

#ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipf.rules"   # loads rules definition text
file

ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipfopen.rules"



ipmon_enable="YES"# Start IP monitor log

ipmon_flags="-Ds" # D = start as daemon, s = log to
syslog, v =



ipnat_enable="YES"# Start ipnat function

ipnat_rules="/etc/ipnat.rules"# rules definition file for ipnat



AS WELL AS THIS TO TURN OF IPFILTER AND NATD



#IPFW & NATD

firewall_enable="NO

firewall_type="OPEN"

firewall_quiet="NO"

#firewall_scrYESt="/etc/rc.firewall"



natd_enable="NO

natd_interface="xl0"

natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf"

HERE IS
/etc/ipnat.rules=

# the rule that forwards everthing

map xl0 192.168.0.0/16 -> 0/32

#VNC HOSTS
#HOST 1
#java
rdr xl0 0/32 port 5801 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5801
#no java
rdr xl0 0/32 port 5901 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5901

#HOST 2
#java
rdr xl0 0/32 port 5802 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5802
#no java
rdr xl0 0/32 port 5902 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5902

===

PLEASE FIND MY ipf.rules ATTACHED TO this email I have even tried to
use
the following rules set to see if I could get ipf to work as an open
firewall but it still seems to block to much.

===

pass out quick on lo0 all

pass in quick on lo0 all



pass out quick on xl1 all

pass in quick on xl1 all



pass out quick on xl0 all

pass in quick on xl0 all


when I ping google.ca I get errors about unknown hostname.  When I
ping
googles ipaddress I get permission denied over and over again.  When
I
try to use lynx I get alert destination host unreachable.  Seems
like
dns?? When I turn off ipf and use ipfw set to open everything works
fine
again.  Please someone help what is going wrong.  ipmon/ipfstat do
not
seem to help but mabey i need some guidance with these tools.



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Re: ipf not working correctly???

2005-06-21 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"fbsd_user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Your first problem is you have ipfw and ipf both turned on in kernel
> and rc.conf.
> You can only have one firewall on at a time.

For the record, that is not true.  They can coexist, and there are
even some (unusual) situations where doing so is useful.
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RE: ipf not working correctly???

2005-06-21 Thread fbsd_user
Your first problem is you have ipfw and ipf both turned on in kernel
and rc.conf.
You can only have one firewall on at a time.
Remove all "firewall" and ipf statements from the kernel and
recompile or just use the generic kernel. Then remove all "firewall"
and "natd' statements from rc.conf.

Then go back and read the FreeBSD handbook section on firewalls it's
been updated to give detailed instructions on what to do. Follow
then to the letter and you will be all set.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RYAN vAN
GINNEKEN
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:58 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: ipf not working correctly???


Hello all i use FreeBSD stable 4.11 and wish to use built in ipf
version
3.x something.i have been using ipfw with type set to open however i
have recently been attacked and need to beef up security.



I have followed the basic setup that is in the freebsd handbook and
read
through the world famous ipf howto lots of times.



Currently I have the below options compiled into my kernel the docs
I
have read say you do not need to compile ipfilter options into the
kernel to use it.  I was going to uncomment the ipfilter stuff and
comment out the ipfirewall options when I got ipfilter working.  Is
it
necessary to recompile the kernel without ipfirewall options to make
ipfilter work.



Kernel OPTIONS



options IPFIREWALL

options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE

options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100

options IPDIVERT



#optionsIPFILTER

#optionsIPFILTER_LOG

#optionsIPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK



IN MY /etc/rc.conf==

#IPF & IPNAT

ipfilter_enable="YES" # Start ipf firewall

#ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipf.rules"   # loads rules definition text
file

ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipfopen.rules"



ipmon_enable="YES"# Start IP monitor log

ipmon_flags="-Ds" # D = start as daemon, s = log to
syslog, v =



ipnat_enable="YES"# Start ipnat function

ipnat_rules="/etc/ipnat.rules"# rules definition file for ipnat



AS WELL AS THIS TO TURN OF IPFILTER AND NATD



#IPFW & NATD

firewall_enable="NO

firewall_type="OPEN"

firewall_quiet="NO"

#firewall_scrYESt="/etc/rc.firewall"



natd_enable="NO

natd_interface="xl0"

natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf"

HERE IS
/etc/ipnat.rules=

# the rule that forwards everthing

map xl0 192.168.0.0/16 -> 0/32

#VNC HOSTS
#HOST 1
#java
rdr xl0 0/32 port 5801 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5801
#no java
rdr xl0 0/32 port 5901 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5901

#HOST 2
#java
rdr xl0 0/32 port 5802 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5802
#no java
rdr xl0 0/32 port 5902 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5902

===

PLEASE FIND MY ipf.rules ATTACHED TO this email I have even tried to
use
the following rules set to see if I could get ipf to work as an open
firewall but it still seems to block to much.

===

pass out quick on lo0 all

pass in quick on lo0 all



pass out quick on xl1 all

pass in quick on xl1 all



pass out quick on xl0 all

pass in quick on xl0 all


when I ping google.ca I get errors about unknown hostname.  When I
ping
googles ipaddress I get permission denied over and over again.  When
I
try to use lynx I get alert destination host unreachable.  Seems
like
dns?? When I turn off ipf and use ipfw set to open everything works
fine
again.  Please someone help what is going wrong.  ipmon/ipfstat do
not
seem to help but mabey i need some guidance with these tools.



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ipf not working correctly???

2005-06-21 Thread RYAN vAN GINNEKEN
Hello all i use FreeBSD stable 4.11 and wish to use built in ipf version 
3.x something.i have been using ipfw with type set to open however i 
have recently been attacked and need to beef up security.




I have followed the basic setup that is in the freebsd handbook and read 
through the world famous ipf howto lots of times.




Currently I have the below options compiled into my kernel the docs I 
have read say you do not need to compile ipfilter options into the 
kernel to use it.  I was going to uncomment the ipfilter stuff and 
comment out the ipfirewall options when I got ipfilter working.  Is it 
necessary to recompile the kernel without ipfirewall options to make 
ipfilter work.




Kernel OPTIONS



options IPFIREWALL

options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE

options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100

options IPDIVERT



#optionsIPFILTER

#optionsIPFILTER_LOG

#optionsIPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK



IN MY /etc/rc.conf==

#IPF & IPNAT

ipfilter_enable="YES" # Start ipf firewall

#ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipf.rules"   # loads rules definition text file

ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipfopen.rules"



ipmon_enable="YES"# Start IP monitor log

ipmon_flags="-Ds" # D = start as daemon, s = log to 
syslog, v =




ipnat_enable="YES"# Start ipnat function

ipnat_rules="/etc/ipnat.rules"# rules definition file for ipnat



AS WELL AS THIS TO TURN OF IPFILTER AND NATD



#IPFW & NATD

firewall_enable="NO

firewall_type="OPEN"

firewall_quiet="NO"

#firewall_scrYESt="/etc/rc.firewall"



natd_enable="NO

natd_interface="xl0"

natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf"

HERE IS /etc/ipnat.rules=

# the rule that forwards everthing

map xl0 192.168.0.0/16 -> 0/32

#VNC HOSTS
#HOST 1
#java
rdr xl0 0/32 port 5801 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5801
#no java
rdr xl0 0/32 port 5901 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5901

#HOST 2
#java
rdr xl0 0/32 port 5802 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5802
#no java
rdr xl0 0/32 port 5902 -> 192.168.0.1 port 5902

===

PLEASE FIND MY ipf.rules ATTACHED TO this email I have even tried to use 
the following rules set to see if I could get ipf to work as an open 
firewall but it still seems to block to much.


===

pass out quick on lo0 all

pass in quick on lo0 all



pass out quick on xl1 all

pass in quick on xl1 all



pass out quick on xl0 all

pass in quick on xl0 all


when I ping google.ca I get errors about unknown hostname.  When I ping 
googles ipaddress I get permission denied over and over again.  When I 
try to use lynx I get alert destination host unreachable.  Seems like 
dns?? When I turn off ipf and use ipfw set to open everything works fine 
again.  Please someone help what is going wrong.  ipmon/ipfstat do not 
seem to help but mabey i need some guidance with these tools.



#
# No restrictions on Inside LAN Interface for private network
# Not needed unless you have LAN
#

pass out quick on xl1 all
pass in quick on xl1 all

#fail safe open all on outside interface

#pass out quick on x10 all
#pass in quick on x10 all
#pass out quick on xl0 from any to any all
#pass in quick on xl0 from any to any all

#
# No restrictions on Loopback Interface
#
pass in quick on lo0 all
pass out quick on lo0 all

#
# Interface facing Public Internet (Outbound Section)
# Interrogate session start requests originating from behind the
# firewall on the private network
# or from this gateway server destine for the public Internet.
#

# Allow out access to my ISP's Domain name server.
# xxx must be the IP address of your ISP's DNS.
# Dup these lines if your ISP has more than one DNS server
# Get the IP addresses from /etc/resolv.conf file
#pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to 192.168.0.202 port = 53 flags S 
keep state
#pass out quick on xl0 proto udp from any to 192.168.0.202 port = 53 keep state
#pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to 64.59.135.133 port = 53 flags S 
keep state 
#pass out quick on xl0 proto udp from any to 64.59.135.135 port = 53 keep state
pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 53 flags S keep state
pass out quick on xl0 proto udp from any to any port = 53 keep state

# Allow out access to my ISP's DHCP server for cable or DSL networks.
# This rule is not needed for 'user ppp' type connection to the
# public Internet, so you can delete this whole group.
# Use the following rule and check log f