Re: let me just throw this out there..

2005-01-27 Thread gabriel
I've since turned it off for about a day and a half and left it with
it the case open, it appears to be running correctly now. I'm also
running tail -f's on several logs to see waddup.

Cheers!


On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:17:54 -0800, Charlie Schluting
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 On 1/25/2005 8:46 PM, SigmaX wrote:
 
  Used to happent o me all the time w/ Windows 2000.  That's the reason I
  switched to FreeBSD ;-) (e pluribus unim).
  Cheerio,
 SigmaX
 
 
 And windows is normally more tolerant of flaky hardware/power. Heh.
 
 :)
 
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Re: let me just throw this out there..

2005-01-25 Thread Charlie Schluting
On 1/25/2005 8:46 PM, SigmaX wrote:
Used to happent o me all the time w/ Windows 2000.  That's the reason I 
switched to FreeBSD ;-) (e pluribus unim).
Cheerio,
   SigmaX

And windows is normally more tolerant of flaky hardware/power. Heh.
:)
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let me just throw this out there..

2005-01-24 Thread gabriel
Has it ever happened to anyone here where your computer (in this case,
my gateway running ipfw+natd) just restarts out of nowhere. It isnt
even a crash, it just restarted. Then when the computer came back up
nothing was running, dhcpd, natd, cupsd everything was just not
running. Weird.

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Re: let me just throw this out there..

2005-01-24 Thread Oliver Leitner
sounds like either powersurgery or you hit the wrong button to me...
also, are you the only one with root or power access to it?

maybe some coworker stepped over the cable, or some other one thought he 
could work with a bsd, and just did the shutdown -r now...

in case you might wanna check all the logs, also the ones including 
informations on who connected to that box.

Also, its only a thought, but how much space is left on that system, do a
df -h and have a closer look...

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On Monday 24 January 2005 22:02, gabriel wrote:
 Has it ever happened to anyone here where your computer (in this case,
 my gateway running ipfw+natd) just restarts out of nowhere. It isnt
 even a crash, it just restarted. Then when the computer came back up
 nothing was running, dhcpd, natd, cupsd everything was just not
 running. Weird.

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Re: let me just throw this out there..

2005-01-24 Thread gabriel
Yeah I'm the only root there, the only user with wheel access isnt
even used often for that same reason. I checked the logs and oddly
enough, it was all just like reboot, nothing interesting or
anything, I checked all the ssh logs and everything looks okay. The
weird thing is the deamons not starting, thats just odd. As a matter
of fact, the first thing I checked was df -h to see if may be /var or
/ was full, but no, everything was good. Again.. weird.



On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:04:57 +0100, Oliver Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 sounds like either powersurgery or you hit the wrong button to me...
 also, are you the only one with root or power access to it?
 
 maybe some coworker stepped over the cable, or some other one thought he
 could work with a bsd, and just did the shutdown -r now...
 
 in case you might wanna check all the logs, also the ones including
 informations on who connected to that box.
 
 Also, its only a thought, but how much space is left on that system, do a
 df -h and have a closer look...
 
 Greetings
 Oliver Leitner
 Technical Staff
 http://www.shells.at
 
 On Monday 24 January 2005 22:02, gabriel wrote:
  Has it ever happened to anyone here where your computer (in this case,
  my gateway running ipfw+natd) just restarts out of nowhere. It isnt
  even a crash, it just restarted. Then when the computer came back up
  nothing was running, dhcpd, natd, cupsd everything was just not
  running. Weird.
 
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Re: let me just throw this out there..

2005-01-24 Thread Oliver Leitner
ok, now open some tail -f 's and stay logged in monitoring them continuously, 
also let a packet capture program like tcpdum run, from that box, and from 
some other box on your network as well, to see if anything unusual comes 
through...

also check if that reboot happens again, and if so, if it happens at exactly 
the same time again...

And then set all daemons, that didnt startup with the machine to debug mode 
logging, also look if they have existing startup files (...sh in rc.d, maybe 
enabled through rc.conf...)

just general error searching routines...

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On Monday 24 January 2005 22:14, gabriel wrote:
 Yeah I'm the only root there, the only user with wheel access isnt
 even used often for that same reason. I checked the logs and oddly
 enough, it was all just like reboot, nothing interesting or
 anything, I checked all the ssh logs and everything looks okay. The
 weird thing is the deamons not starting, thats just odd. As a matter
 of fact, the first thing I checked was df -h to see if may be /var or
 / was full, but no, everything was good. Again.. weird.

 On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:04:57 +0100, Oliver Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  sounds like either powersurgery or you hit the wrong button to me...
  also, are you the only one with root or power access to it?
 
  maybe some coworker stepped over the cable, or some other one thought he
  could work with a bsd, and just did the shutdown -r now...
 
  in case you might wanna check all the logs, also the ones including
  informations on who connected to that box.
 
  Also, its only a thought, but how much space is left on that system, do a
  df -h and have a closer look...
 
  Greetings
  Oliver Leitner
  Technical Staff
  http://www.shells.at
 
  On Monday 24 January 2005 22:02, gabriel wrote:
   Has it ever happened to anyone here where your computer (in this case,
   my gateway running ipfw+natd) just restarts out of nowhere. It isnt
   even a crash, it just restarted. Then when the computer came back up
   nothing was running, dhcpd, natd, cupsd everything was just not
   running. Weird.
 
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Re: let me just throw this out there..

2005-01-24 Thread gabriel
I'll give that a shot. Thanks


On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:19:21 +0100, Oliver Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ok, now open some tail -f 's and stay logged in monitoring them continuously,
 also let a packet capture program like tcpdum run, from that box, and from
 some other box on your network as well, to see if anything unusual comes
 through...
 
 also check if that reboot happens again, and if so, if it happens at exactly
 the same time again...
 
 And then set all daemons, that didnt startup with the machine to debug mode
 logging, also look if they have existing startup files (...sh in rc.d, maybe
 enabled through rc.conf...)
 
 just general error searching routines...
 
 Greetings
 Oliver Leitner
 Technical Staff
 http://www.shells.at
 
 On Monday 24 January 2005 22:14, gabriel wrote:
  Yeah I'm the only root there, the only user with wheel access isnt
  even used often for that same reason. I checked the logs and oddly
  enough, it was all just like reboot, nothing interesting or
  anything, I checked all the ssh logs and everything looks okay. The
  weird thing is the deamons not starting, thats just odd. As a matter
  of fact, the first thing I checked was df -h to see if may be /var or
  / was full, but no, everything was good. Again.. weird.
 
  On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:04:57 +0100, Oliver Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
   sounds like either powersurgery or you hit the wrong button to me...
   also, are you the only one with root or power access to it?
  
   maybe some coworker stepped over the cable, or some other one thought he
   could work with a bsd, and just did the shutdown -r now...
  
   in case you might wanna check all the logs, also the ones including
   informations on who connected to that box.
  
   Also, its only a thought, but how much space is left on that system, do a
   df -h and have a closer look...
  
   Greetings
   Oliver Leitner
   Technical Staff
   http://www.shells.at
  
   On Monday 24 January 2005 22:02, gabriel wrote:
Has it ever happened to anyone here where your computer (in this case,
my gateway running ipfw+natd) just restarts out of nowhere. It isnt
even a crash, it just restarted. Then when the computer came back up
nothing was running, dhcpd, natd, cupsd everything was just not
running. Weird.
  
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Re: let me just throw this out there..

2005-01-24 Thread Danny
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:02:32 -0800, gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Has it ever happened to anyone here where your computer (in this case,
 my gateway running ipfw+natd) just restarts out of nowhere. It isnt
 even a crash, it just restarted. Then when the computer came back up
 nothing was running, dhcpd, natd, cupsd everything was just not
 running. Weird.

Motherboard  CPU temp? UPS? 

...D
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Re: let me just throw this out there..

2005-01-24 Thread gabriel
Oh don't scare me, the machine I'm talking about is my gateway, the
last gateway I had died (mobo fried) but I dont remember it doing this
though.


On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:34:50 -0500, Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:02:32 -0800, gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Has it ever happened to anyone here where your computer (in this case,
  my gateway running ipfw+natd) just restarts out of nowhere. It isnt
  even a crash, it just restarted. Then when the computer came back up
  nothing was running, dhcpd, natd, cupsd everything was just not
  running. Weird.
 
 Motherboard  CPU temp? UPS?
 
 ...D
 


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Re: let me just throw this out there..

2005-01-24 Thread Oliver Leitner
just to add reasons...

run a memtest on that machine, could be a dead ram as well...

On Monday 24 January 2005 22:36, gabriel wrote:
 Oh don't scare me, the machine I'm talking about is my gateway, the
 last gateway I had died (mobo fried) but I dont remember it doing this
 though.

 On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:34:50 -0500, Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:02:32 -0800, gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
   Has it ever happened to anyone here where your computer (in this case,
   my gateway running ipfw+natd) just restarts out of nowhere. It isnt
   even a crash, it just restarted. Then when the computer came back up
   nothing was running, dhcpd, natd, cupsd everything was just not
   running. Weird.
 
  Motherboard  CPU temp? UPS?
 
  ...D

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Re: let me just throw this out there..

2005-01-24 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 1:02 PM -0800 1/24/05, gabriel wrote:
Has it ever happened to anyone here where your computer (in this
case, my gateway running ipfw+natd) just restarts out of nowhere.
It isn't even a crash, it just restarted.
Yes.  Turned out to be an overheating problem.  (one of the CPU
fans was starting to fail -- and eventually it completely failed).
Then when the computer came back up nothing was running, dhcpd,
natd, cupsd everything was just not running. Weird.
I don't remember this happening, but it might have in some cases.
The machine in question does not run many services.
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Re: let me just throw this out there..

2005-01-24 Thread SigmaX
Oliver Leitner wrote:
sounds like either powersurgery or you hit the wrong button to me...
also, are you the only one with root or power access to it?
maybe some coworker stepped over the cable, or some other one thought he 
could work with a bsd, and just did the shutdown -r now...

in case you might wanna check all the logs, also the ones including 
informations on who connected to that box.

Also, its only a thought, but how much space is left on that system, do a
df -h and have a closer look...
Greetings
Oliver Leitner
Technical Staff
http://www.shells.at
On Monday 24 January 2005 22:02, gabriel wrote:
 

Has it ever happened to anyone here where your computer (in this case,
my gateway running ipfw+natd) just restarts out of nowhere. It isnt
even a crash, it just restarted. Then when the computer came back up
nothing was running, dhcpd, natd, cupsd everything was just not
running. Weird.
   

Used to happent o me all the time w/ Windows 2000.  That's the reason I 
switched to FreeBSD ;-) (e pluribus unim).
Cheerio,
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